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Recent content by DumbTeen

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    a good read....."White guilt and the Western Past"

    Armies are incapable of building economies because of White Guilt? You are a crazy person with no understanding of politics. I think I'm done with this forum, American political debate is positively infantile, mean-spirited and degrading.
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    for those against the Iraq war.....

    I can understand the argument that if Iraq/Syria were to become secular liberal democracies like Germany (fat, disarmed and happy) that that would strike a blow to radical Islam. But, would you concede, that neither of those regimes were really Islamist, they were closer to the godless...
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    a good read....."White guilt and the Western Past"

    An example of it occured two days ago. Iraq's fundamental problems are her economy and her security. The army cannot help her economy, the army has proven inadequate at guaranteeing her security. I think the best way of helping Iraq's security would be to make the regime appear independent of...
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    for those against the Iraq war.....

    This only justifies the invasion of Iraq in the most roundabout way. By this mean, I imagine, the argument you are getting is: radical islam kills America --> America democratizes muslim countries -- no more terrorism But I find this rather silly because there's no guarantee tensions will...
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    for those against the Iraq war.....

    Once again it was threat of force, not force. Those are two completely different things, and it's insane to think they are the same. Secondly, there are many democratizations that happened regardless of US policy. Was South Korea, South Africa, Taiwan, Latin America, Ukrainian or Georgian...
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    a good read....."White guilt and the Western Past"

    There are numerous accounts of Iraqi troops being more loyal to their local militias than to the federal govt. That I want to paint? I was pro-war and I wanted Iraq to be success. The fact is the image is terribly bleak and the only answer you have is "In 3 years, we destroyed their economy...
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    for those against the Iraq war.....

    Btw I went to the site you sent me, it claimed the "trends" were good but the headlines were bad. I'll show you trends: - Unemployment still above 25% - Violence not declining - Economy shrinking Those are the trends, they are not good ones and they are not trends the US army can really tackle...
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    for those against the Iraq war.....

    I've agree with that for nuclear weapons, not conventional, and it's conventional weapons in Iraq which is currently not terribly effective. If it were effective then I'd support it. That's why I believe the US should keep agressive states in check, because its clear the US armed forces are...
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    a good read....."White guilt and the Western Past"

    Were they or were they not caused by the invasion? Of course they were, America didn't necessarily want these things to happen but they wouldn't have happened under the previous regime. Secondly, whether or not it's America's fault is irrelevant. The fact is those problems are real and exist...
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    a good read....."White guilt and the Western Past"

    These achievements are great, but they're all in limited areas. The fact remains the overall picture is of: 1) A shrinking economy 2) 25-30% unemployment 3) Dozens of deaths daily 4) A small and undisciplined army That's the real picture. We can say "Well we rebuilt some of the electrical...
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    for those against the Iraq war.....

    Maybe so, but using that force isn't necessarily the way we democratized anywhere. In fact, we didn't democratize South Korea or Vietnam through force. We did it through trade and enriching the South, war only managed to keepin Communists out, not build democracy. Well granted, are you saying...
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    a good read....."White guilt and the Western Past"

    Mainly my Arab friends (admittedly, none are Iraqi, they are mainly Jordanian and Syrian) and polls I read about. I am also keenly aware of America's unpopularity in Europe, it seems absolutely delusional to think that she would somehow be more popular in the Arab world.
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    for those against the Iraq war.....

    When a cop points a gun at robber's head, is that the same thing as blowing his ****ing brains out? You are a crazy person. I think it is, because the USA has more than enough nukes to threaten the entire world, hence I think use of conventional weapons to spread democracy is usually...
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    for those against the Iraq war.....

    The threat of force and the use of it are totally different things. Also, I'd stress the USA did not have the ability to destroy the USSR with conventional weapons, ever. The USSR always had a far bigger army and one which could beat the USA in Europe had it not been for nuclear weapons. (allied...
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    a good read....."White guilt and the Western Past"

    Well, whatever, that's not me, I'll concede success where I see success. Our action in Afghanistan has been succesful, I hope we stay there and help that country on its road to secular liberal democracy. Our strategy there, not perfect, seems to be working reasonably well. Second, I think...
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