The Constitution Is A JOKE!

[Secular Heckler]

Also im a disabled writer that struggles to type, and i put forth , by the looks of it far more effort to deconstruct his arguments, then he to me.

You should get the free Grammarly Extension for your web browser. If you are doing this on a phone, then you are really at a disadvantage.

 

[Master of kitusne]

You should get the free Grammarly Extension for your web browser. If you are doing this on a phone, then you are really at a disadvantage.

Sí, yah no computer sadly, though that extension can be a hit or miss when writing essays, when i was on pc

 

[Master of kitusne]

You should get the free Grammarly Extension for your web browser. If you are doing this on a phone, then you are really at a disadvantage.

Honestly after thinking about it i sorta hate them.

The fact they can be hit or miss for me, makes me look lazy and stupid to the uneducated from past experience.

 

[Rich2018]

I like your idea here, but it needs work. I think the "best interest," and "according to the majority," is too difficult to distinguish, and unnecessary if we can define delegates as temporary and limited.

i think it very crass of you to insist that everybody should know the difference. Good thing you pay to be a member here.

Well actually that's the way it's supposed to work. Representatives are supposed to do what they think is best for the people who elected them
Though modern political parties do tend to be well disciplined - though the GOP is somewhat chaotic right now and can't seem to represent a single right wing demographic.

 

[Master of kitusne]

Pepole forget the laws of nature, and the fact it was not codified is a baffle me, but besides that concept is in the declaration, and thats a living document,f intent.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Declaration of Independence: A Transcription​

Note: The following text is a transcription of the Stone Engraving of the parchment Declaration of Independence (the document on display in the Rotunda at the National Archives Museum.) The spelling and punctuation reflects the original.

www.archives.gov

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript/
The Enlightenment and Human Rights · Explore · LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY: EXPLORING THE FRENCH REVOUTION
Two houndred years sure did diminish the word liberty in the dictionary.


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt10-2/ALDE_00013620/

Wake up.

 

[Rich2018]

Pepole forget the laws of nature...

Go on then...where are these "Laws of Nature" listed ?

 

[Master of kitusne]

Go on then...where are these "Laws of Nature" listed ?

The declaration of independence,,,,,the founding fathers letters.... Litterly the entire base of what our country vas built off...,,,, the heck?


Also i bloody linked it all the hell

 

[DaveJ]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away. We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere. Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government. Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery. Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

The right to free speech means the government can't infringe on your right to free speech. Telling this forum they are required to allow any and all types of speech would be government infringing on liberty. The point of the constitution is to keep the government from oppressing people. People are allowed to do whatever they want and if you don't like it you can post in a different forum. (not "you" specifically, but any poster).
The idea is to keep the government out of individual's lives as much as possible, regardless of how much power that individual appears to have.

 

[Tangmo]

And if the government banned things that were bad for you, you'd be in here telling us about the government was a nanny state making those things worse by fostering black markets selling unsafe products.

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Your post is presumptive and falsely accusatory of wrongdoing which is a FAIL. Making it up as you go along. Same as Trump does daily since 2015. You can post it but you can't hide it. After all it began in 2015 and this is 2025. In 2022 as just one instance Trump said after the midterms wipeout in the states to "terminate" the Constitution which everyone seems to have forgotten.

 

[Master of kitusne]

Your post is presumptive and falsely accusatory of wrongdoing which is a FAIL. Making it up as you go along. Same as Trump does daily since 2015. You can post it but you can't hide it. After all it began in 2015 and this is 2025. In 2022 as just one instance Trump said after the midterms wipeout in the states to "terminate" the Constitution which everyone seems to have forgotten.

This shit is why im hear, litterly had to study 1700 English at one point, just to better understand the papers and letters the creators wrote.

 

[jaypatriot]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away. We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere. Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government. Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery. Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

The U.S. has the second oldest living constitution in the world.
You should be proud of that instead of thinking it is a joke.

 

[Tangmo]

The right to free speech means the government can't infringe on your right to free speech. Telling this forum they are required to allow any and all types of speech would be government infringing on liberty. The point of the constitution is to keep the government from oppressing people. People are allowed to do whatever they want and if you don't like it you can post in a different forum. (not "you" specifically, but any poster).
The idea is to keep the government out of individual's lives as much as possible, regardless of how much power that individual appears to have.

Ignoring, dismissing or glossing over substance and content makes it easy the be a libertarian. It suggests anarchy in fact.

Abroad America has gone from viable and mutually beneficial alliances with democracies to sinister schemes with armband authoritarian regimes that obsess about the selective population control of its own people.

Indeed, America has become what it fought against and defeated throughout the 20th century. The Constitution ist kaput. Which means inter alia the old mantras of freedom of speech and association are dead.

Your post is from before the present time except that the oligarchs continue to rule from the Robber Barons to Trump-Musk.

Trump-Muskow.

 

[Tangmo]

The U.S. has the second oldest living constitution in the world.
You should be proud of that instead of thinking it is a joke.

Well then the Democratic Party (its legal name) is the oldest continuous political party of the world.

So let's start having its due respect.

MagaMericans meanwhile can have great pleasure in systematically destroying the Constitution since 2015 to include 24/7/365 without relief.

 

[Tangmo]

This shit is why im hear, litterly had to study 1700 English at one point, just to better understand the papers and letters the creators wrote.

If you mean British and Postcolonial Studies 1700 to the Present, then that would be commended as a truly dedicated commitment. I know from my many years in Washington DC, Geo. Washington U has this program and that it is a strong one. Plus you capitalize English which many MagaMericans don't know to do, that the name of a language (and country) is always capitalized.

Either way, I welcome you to DP.

 

[Tangmo]

Pepole forget the laws of nature, and the fact it was not codified is a baffle me, but besides that concept is in the declaration, and thats a living document,f intent.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Declaration of Independence: A Transcription​

Note: The following text is a transcription of the Stone Engraving of the parchment Declaration of Independence (the document on display in the Rotunda at the National Archives Museum.) The spelling and punctuation reflects the original.

www.archives.gov

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript/
The Enlightenment and Human Rights · Explore · LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY: EXPLORING THE FRENCH REVOUTION
Two houndred years sure did diminish the word liberty in the dictionary.


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt10-2/ALDE_00013620/

Wake up.

Yes and long ago in fact I visited the Archives to view the original Constitution document hermetically sealed as it were in a glass encasement. With a Federal Protection Service officer standing at the entranceway. It was quite the experience.

Visited Mt. Vernon and Washington's tomb across the Potomac, several times. The ceilings inside the mansion that are low to us reminds us the people were shorter then. All the same the low ceilings and small rooms are not like a cottage in England where fireplace heat could be concentrated in the cold and damp climate. In Washington DC 8 months of the year are warm, hot and then broiling plus the wicked humidity. Accordingly, the rooms at Mt. Vernon are larger than the typical English cottage to include lots of windows up there on the breezy bluff and its overview of the Potomac River and the Chesapeake Bay Watershed.

 

[Tangmo]

He

Is into bad faith arguments, you can see it in hd in my one thread on the constitution.

He likes to detract, ignore, or nitpick a argument to death vs actually putting forth the same effort.

Also im a disabled writer that struggles to type, and i put forth , by the looks of it far more effort to deconstruct his arguments, then he to me.

Beware the trolls.

I ignore some, limit my interaction with some others.

They can go to other troughs.

 

[SMTA]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away. We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere. Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government. Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery. Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

Maybe you should just move to your fantasy land.
PS - it exists nowhere.

 

[Operative13]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away. We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere. Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government. Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery. Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

Your existence is a product of the government, and they demand compensation for supporting your existence. In a man's wise words, the only things guaranteed are death and taxes.

 

[Master of kitusne]

If you mean British and Postcolonial Studies 1700 to the Present, then that would be commended as a truly dedicated commitment. I know from my many years in Washington DC, Geo. Washington U has this program and that it is a strong one. Plus you capitalize English which many MagaMericans don't know to do, that the name of a language (and country) is always capitalized.

Either way, I welcome you to DP.

I am self taught, my greatest accomplishments in that , is once i left my void, and started debating, i found out many concepts i conceived, were already a concept;a wast of time? No, propper study would colour my ideas and narrow my thinking.


Debate showed a lot of my flaws from that time over the years.

I started in Ernest at fifteen with theology and phycology, history has been my interest from six, but at the time mentioned, i also started my foruse on American history.

Also you mentioned 2015, but the problem is older then that.

Im thirty two

 

[Master of kitusne]

Well then the Democratic Party (its legal name) is the oldest continuous political party of the world.

So let's start having its due respect.

MagaMericans meanwhile can have great pleasure in systematically destroying the Constitution since 2015 to include 24/7/365 without relief.

When Congress put a limit on representatives in congress, thus shrinking its size, then term limits on the president?

Or lets go slightly off topics to blood fuids, carried on for generations, pure hate, killing and maiming, and lots of plotting.


If you think thats a affliction that only could effect families of old, and think it a separate concern to politics, are gravely mistaken.

Just look at the kkk historically, influenced and infatrated many positions, including our cops,

Nevermind the confederacy, all but dead in name, yet it still has a milita, the kkk, and a flag its pepole still fly.

Oh and a old matto of the south shell rise agine.

People forget that you cant also target groups, not politically, group A will suffer the most, by its affliction will spread across all demographics slowly and has.


Jails, Dea, FTA.. **** the FTA, the ATU was just a tax branch, then black people took there ninth and second, formed a milita, kept peaceful protest, and protected there community.


And we get the atf and this? https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/...Black Panther,loaded firearm without a permit.

Slavery by Another Name | Episode 1

Slavery by Another Name explores the new forms of slavery after the Civil War.

www.pbs.org

Earl Anthony and the Black Panther Party - AAIHS

The Black Panther Party was founded on October 15, 1966, with Earl Anthony joining the following April. His 1990 book, entitled Spitting in the Wind: The True Story Behind the Violent Legacy of the Black Panther Party, reveals that Anthony was an early informant for the FBI’s Counter...

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I haven't had time to start on the ideas of Corporatocracy, and the fact they is evidence that our government has been bent over backwards to such thinking.

 

[jaypatriot]

Well then the Democratic Party (its legal name) is the oldest continuous political party of the world.

So let's start having its due respect.

MagaMericans meanwhile can have great pleasure in systematically destroying the Constitution since 2015 to include 24/7/365 without relief.

Sure, the Democrat Party can rest on its laurels as the party of Slavery, Secession, Jim Crow Laws, and the Ku Klux Klan. A great legacy to embrace over the past 160 years.

 

[Master of kitusne]

Sure, the Democrat Party can rest on its laurels as the party of Slavery, Secession, Jim Crow Laws, and the Ku Klux Klan. A great legacy to embrace over the past 160 years.

160 years worth of influence on the government, and people want to blame trump for stepping up onto there thrown.

Trump knew they were who he had kiss ass two, and the Policy he push's over these two terms?


Who would benefit to them, trump? No, he only benefit by enacting them, what he always saying? Quid pro?

 

[Rich2018]

The declaration of independence,,,,,the founding fathers letters.... Litterly the entire base of what our country vas built off...,,,, the heck?

Really ?
The Declaration of Independence provides an exhaustive list of "Natural Rights" ?

In what part does it list those ?

And are you saying that if it is not listed in the DOI, it is NOT a "natural right" ?

 

[Tangmo]

Sure, the Democrat Party can rest on its laurels as the party of Slavery, Secession, Jim Crow Laws, and the Ku Klux Klan. A great legacy to embrace over the past 160 years.

MagaMerican tripe.

MAGA Boilerplate.

Since 2015.

Repeated Forever and Shot Down Forever. Since 2015.

Everyone knows the vile people in your post are the MagaMericans of today who are in the Republican Party since the Nixon-Strom Thurmond "Southern Strategy." We have been over this thousands of times -- since 2015 and Trump.

Party politics has always been one's nominal politics, while ideology and philosophy are one's real politics. Conservatives have always been the vile people in your post and more recently MagaMericanPatriots since the Southern Strategy of the early 1970s.

We've been over this that MAGAs have posted 10,000 times -- since 2015. These MAGA posts have been shot down since.

Your post is the PutinMagaTrump Rinse and Repeat Desperation of say anything, deny everything and never quit no matter how many thousands of times desperation dictates to drive on with it.

 

[DaveJ]

Ignoring, dismissing or glossing over substance and content makes it easy the be a libertarian. It suggests anarchy in fact.

ignoring or dismissing content makes it easy to have any type of belief. That doesn't mean it's a requirement by default. Not ignoring content makes it hard to not use your brain.

Abroad America has gone from viable and mutually beneficial alliances with democracies to sinister schemes with armband authoritarian regimes that obsess about the selective population control of its own people.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Perhaps some proof or evidence of some kind, preferably not something that is 80% up to interpretation please.

Indeed, America has become what it fought against and defeated throughout the 20th century. The Constitution ist kaput. Which means inter alia the old mantras of freedom of speech and association are dead.

Kaput is not an English word. Please translate it to english and see if your sentence makes sense. If not you are speaking gibberish, no offense.
If we have stopped following the constitution then it is our government that is malfunctioning. There's nothing wrong with the constitution.

Your post is from before the present time except that the oligarchs continue to rule from the Robber Barons to Trump-Musk.

If you look at the post itself you will see the time it was posted, and then you will know when the post is from. If I believe things that people used to believe, it is because I believe in keeping the beliefs alive that make sense, regardless of whether they are old fashioned.

Trump-Muskow.

Is this supposed to be the conclusion of your argument ? Musk's last name is similar to Moscow, therefore he is a communist ?
Out of curiosity - do you think that communists believe in regulating government? Because I'm pretty sure that's Musk's job, is it not ? Or is that a conspiracy