Not only that, but consider this scenario: Something happens and you need to 'bug out' with your family and head to another location. Could be due to natural disaster, or civil unrest. For those of us with a pickup or large SUV (truck based not some crossover crap), and one with an extra fuel tank....or able to carry a few extra fuel containers--- what is our RANGE compared to someone with some electric toy vehicle? Then consider that electric power may not be available, or in the case of gas/diesel, stations may not have power to run the pumps---or just long crazy lines, and then who is in the better position?
Maybe not something many people think about, not all travel may always be short drives to and from work, or taking the kids to play laser tag. Having a range of 1000 miles can get a long way out of town without needing to refuel. Or get you 500 miles out of hostile territory and not being on empty when you get there.
I do not see battery electric cars staying around unless battery technology makes some major improvements. Hydrogen fuel cells are a more likely way of carrying energy.So you don't need to eat? Are you a robot? What about your batteries?
Oh and soon you won't have a "choice" either and you will need to plan you route to find a gas station if you keep running that dinosaur.
Even Shanghai Motors will stop making IC cars...
General Motors Says It Will Stop Making Gas-Powered Vehicles by 2035
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/general-motors-gm-zero-emission-gas-powered-vehicles.html#:~:text=General Motors Says It Will Stop Making Gas-Powered Vehicles by 2035&text=General Motors announced Thursday that,for producing gas-guzzling SUVs.
Electric motors are better than ic engines and transmission in just about every way. The shortfall is in how the energy is stored.Remember the whole idea for electric cars is a hoax. Man made CO2 only amounts to 6 parts in a million of the whole atmosphere each year.
Spent fuel rods may mean more fuel. I don't believe we'll ever see another old style nuclear plant built again.That does not deal with the 1000's of spent fuel rods stored at reactors around the country or the inherent high expense of nuclear energy. When building one plant costs $9 Billion or more it is hard to pay that back without exorbitant electric rates. The best thing about it is that it makes solar and wind power seem cheap by comparison.
LOL You can't just deny that there will be no more gasoline powered cars available in a decade or so. There will also be far less gasoline available than charging stations too. It really does not matter what excuses you make. You will either get an electric car or walk. It is your choice. Gasoline only keeps about 6 months too so you can forget about stocking up on it. It's happening and you can't stop it. I guess you can brew your own ethanol and run your vehicle on that but that will get old real fast.
Look how threatened you are...having to type "normal" twice in CAPPS! Its like you need to prove something to others, but others really don't give a shit.
I own a Prius (charcoal grey with all the fun add ons), its fantastic. I've had it for 3 years, never broke down, I get 55-65 mpg.
I owe nothing on it.
I have a hitch so we can take our bikes anywhere.
And, I own my house, completely, paid off mortgage,
and my GF and I have been in a fantastic relationship for a long time.
I don't have any need for a truck, and if I do, I can afford to rent one, no big deal.
There is so much fear in your posts, is your masculinity and ego that tenuous that you have to keep convincing yourself that material goods is what makes you manly? Are you that weak?
You want to be a real man? Treat women as equals, and do good things for others.
Such sad retorts. I have a great car, Toyota staked their future on it, and it worked.I don't need to prove anything, I just have no aversion to pointing out to people boldly what is normal and what is abnormal. I don't care if that feels rude. Not all normal men and women have been indoctrinated or fear being "cancelled", we are happy to continue to tell people how things REALLY are.
Well, I hope you drive a lot of miles in order to make that savings up compared to the amount you would save by buying a better gasoline vehicle of similar size and power. Prius may make some sense for taxi and Uber drivers, but in reality most commuters don't keep a Prius long enough, or drive them far enough over the period it would take to save money over gasoline.
I don't care how much gasoline costs anyway, the way I look at it is batteries are worse for the enviroment. Why have that shit when you have clean fossil fuels?
And?
I've never financed a vehicle in my life. I pay cash for my cars, usually right out my checking account. What the hell do I care about what you owe or don't owe?
How cute.
I have a hitch on my truck too, but why in the hell would drag bicycles around on a trailer when I can throw them in the back of the truck?
Oh, do you mean one of those cute bicycle hitches people put on the backs of their SUV crossovers and such? When I think of a "hitch" I'm thinking something you attach a trailer with a boat too that you pull our of a lake, not some little attachment that will hold a bicycle or wheelchair.
There you go again bragging about stuff everybody over age 35 pretty much has already accomplished. And???
Why don't you marry her? You got the house, a car, add a dog and ice maker and you have everything.
What would a guy like you rent a truck for? To haul a bigger bike rack with?
Nah, I'm just poking fun at all the Prius and yoga pants fellows who miss out on all the fun of backing a bass boat down the boat ramp with a pick up truck. Or can go buy a new water heater or some roofing material without having to go rent a truck. Yeah all you chaps we laugh at driving down the road with mattresses tied to the roofs of your Priuses with twine and your wives and kids with arm out the windows hoping the load doesn't blow off. Always worth a chuckle
.
Hey, anytime a woman wants to change a tire, or climb up and repair the roof; I'm not going to stop her.
Nah, I'm just poking fun at all the Prius and yoga pants fellows who miss out on all the fun of backing a bass boat down the boat ramp with a pick up truck. Or can go buy a new water heater or some roofing material without having to go rent a truck. Yeah all you chaps we laugh at driving down the road with mattresses tied to the roofs of your Priuses with twine and your wives and kids with arm out the windows hoping the load doesn't blow off. Always worth a chuckle
.
Hey, anytime a woman wants to change a tire, or climb up and repair the roof; I'm not going to stop her.
What abject stupidity. I need a new water heater, guess what....I pay someone to bring it to me, because I can afford it.
I just got both of my roofs (flat and pitched) re-roofed, the roofers brought their materials, no need for me to pick it up, what kind of world do you live in?
Mattresses? I bought a nice California King mattress last year, super thick and wonderful, and it was foam. It fit very nicely into my car because when you buy a foam mattress, its compressed, not sure if you have been in the real world lately, but that is how it is.
And, I chuckle at you when I get gas once a month, because you get gas twice a week....LOL. (Keep supporting those Middle East countries, they love you)
So much self loathing and angst in your posts, there are all kinds of explanations for it in a copy of the DSM V.
The EV's are coming, the EV's are coming!The united states although behind in mining its own rare earth materials are now actively working to try and become more self reliant and less dependent on China. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ects-under-development-in-u-s-idUSKCN2241L6As far as electric vehicles go, it will take time for battery technology to reach the point where electric vehicles overtake gasoline powered cars. However in the long run electric cars will dominate. Progress is a good thing and not to be feared. It will when fully developed be better for the environment of our planet.
There is a lot of environmental damage due to the mining of the rare earths necessary for battery production, along with most of our electronics in the end. And mostly you rely on child labor out of India and China, along with strip mining, and extensive pollution to get those "nice" batteries for electric cars. Honestly, I think you end up doing more harm than good with those since not only are you strip mining a significant portion of the globe with poorly paid labor, polluting all while doing it, the energy to charge batteries comes from our power plants and much of that is coal and natural gas. So with the loss of efficiency in burning those to charging the batteries, I think you're losing out in the end.
I do not see battery electric cars staying around unless battery technology makes some major improvements. Hydrogen fuel cells are a more likely way of carrying energy.
Fully charged in 10 minutes, fully drained in 5 miles.A chinese company has already developed a battery than can fully charge in 10 minutes. And I'm not talking about some prototype either.
Fully charged in 10 minutes, fully drained in 5 miles.
It's always just over that next green hill.I made a mistake: I said 10 minutes to fully charge, but it's actually 5 minutes charge to give you a 100 mile range.
Electric car batteries with five-minute charging times produced
Exclusive: first factory production means recharging could soon be as fast as filling up petrol or diesel vehicleswww.theguardian.com
StoreDot is aiming to deliver 100 miles of charge to a car battery in five minutes in 2025
There is some rather ugly physics involved in moving say 100 Ah of electricity in 10 minuets,A chinese company has already developed a battery than can fully charge in 10 minutes. And I'm not talking about some prototype either.
Was the economy destroyed when the inefficient internal combustion engine took over where horses left off? The IC motor is obsolescent 19th century technology and it's about to be overtaken. The world moves on and several motor manufacturers, including Jaguar-Land Rover, have committed to building only electric vehicles. In Jaguar's case no more IC cars after 2025.Biden, or whoever is actually running the country, wants to push for electric vehicles. Only problem is that the raw materials to make batteries mostly comes from China.
I swear to God, the enviro-wackos will destroy this country's economy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/04/04/electric-cars-batteries/
Do you really think the internal combustion heat engine is obsolete?Was the economy destroyed when the inefficient internal combustion engine took over where horses left off? The IC motor is obsolescent 19th century technology and it's about to be overtaken. The world moves on.
Yes, I do. Oil reserves are depleting and oil will eventually become too costly to extract economically. Car manufacturers understand this and are preparing for a cleaner, more efficient and quieter future. I agree that for the foreseeable future jet engines will be necessary, but as fuel costs increase so will travel costs inevitably follow.Do you really think the internal combustion heat engine is obsolete?
I think for certain applications, like passenger jets, it will be around for quite a while.
In addition, there are other ways to process hydrocarbon fuels into energy, that do not require IC engines.
It really still comes back to energy density.
Energy density
Gasoline 12,888.9 W-h/kg
Lithium-ion battery 100 - 243.06 W-h/kg
So you think the only source for hydrocarbon fuel, is from oil?Yes, I do. Oil reserves are depleting and oil will eventually become too costly to extract economically. Car manufacturers understand this and are preparing for a cleaner, more efficient and quieter future. I agree that for the foreseeable future jet engines will be necessary, but as fuel costs increase so will travel costs inevitably follow.
Of course there are energy alternatives to explore; hydrogen for one. I never suggested otherwise.So you think the only source for hydrocarbon fuel, is from oil?
I agree that electric motors are far better than IC motors and transmissions for ground vehicles,
but that does not mean the energy needs to be carried in a battery.
Oil will eventually price itself out of the fuel market, somewhere between $75 and $95 a barrel,
but it will do so, because the refineries can make hydrocarbon fuel from electricity, water, and atmospheric CO2, for less than buying oil.
If the electricity is carbon free, the fuel could be cleaner than running a battery electric car.
But you sort of did when you said the " The IC motor is obsolescent 19th century technology "Of course there are energy alternatives to explore; hydrogen for one. I never suggested otherwise.