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Repealing the Affordable Care Act? What a second Trump term might mean for health care

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On the campaign trail, former President Donald Trump is once again promising to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act – a nebulous goal that became one of his administration’s splashiest policy failures.

The Obama-era health law is even more popular and widely used now than it was in 2017, when Trump and congressional Republicans proved unable to pass their own plan. Despite repeated promises, Trump never presented his own Obamacare replacement.

Nevertheless: “We’re going to fight for much better health care than Obamacare. Obamacare is a catastrophe,” Trump said at a Jan. 6 campaign stop in Iowa.
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People love the care they get under the ACA. He promised to 'repeal & replace' it last time but did nothing. The repugs are going to lose their slim majority so I hope this is all just campaign bluster, as most of what he says is.
 

On the campaign trail, former President Donald Trump is once again promising to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act – a nebulous goal that became one of his administration’s splashiest policy failures.

The Obama-era health law is even more popular and widely used now than it was in 2017, when Trump and congressional Republicans proved unable to pass their own plan. Despite repeated promises, Trump never presented his own Obamacare replacement.

Nevertheless: “We’re going to fight for much better health care than Obamacare. Obamacare is a catastrophe,” Trump said at a Jan. 6 campaign stop in Iowa.
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People love the care they get under the ACA. He promised to 'repeal & replace' it last time but did nothing. The repugs are going to lose their slim majority so I hope this is all just campaign bluster, as most of what he says is.
Let not your heart be troubled.

The GOP Elites that are still in Congress won't let that happen...just like they didn't let it happen the first time.
 
People love the care they get under the ACA.

Nobody gets care under the ACA. It’s just subsidized private sector health insurance policies. So why is it called the Affordable Care Act instead of the Affordable Private Insurance Act? Because the position of healthcare providers has always been that treating the uninsured means they have to fleece everyone else. The Democrats assumed that requiring everyone to have a private insurance policy would cause the healthcare providers to dramatically lower their costs out of the goodness of their hearts. Of course, that never happened.
 
Let not your heart be troubled.

The GOP Elites that are still in Congress won't let that happen...just like they didn't let it happen the first time.
It was one guy who stopped it.

And he's dead.

These yahoos will repeal it and then realize they have no replacement.
 
It was one guy who stopped it.

And he's dead.

These yahoos will repeal it and then realize they have no replacement.
More $$$ for their rich donors.
 
The "replacement," if there is one, would be cheap plans that do little other than to generate premiums for shady insurance providers. Also, you have a preexisting condition.
 
It was one guy who stopped it.

And he's dead.

These yahoos will repeal it and then realize they have no replacement.
That one guy did his part of the plan. The GOP Elites won't let Obamacare be repealed.
 
The "replacement," if there is one, would be cheap plans that do little other than to generate premiums for shady insurance providers. Also, you have a preexisting condition.
My preexisting condition is being able to get out of bed in the AM.
 
On the campaign trail, former President Donald Trump is once again promising to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act – a nebulous goal that became one of his administration’s splashiest policy failures.

Bizarre unforced error. Even Republicans aren’t clamoring for this anymore, repealing the ACA is a toxic position.

Nobody gets care under the ACA. It’s just subsidized private sector health insurance policies. So why is it called the Affordable Care Act instead of the Affordable Private Insurance Act? Because the position of healthcare providers has always been that treating the uninsured means they have to fleece everyone else. The Democrats assumed that requiring everyone to have a private insurance policy would cause the healthcare providers to dramatically lower their costs out of the goodness of their hearts. Of course, that never happened.

 
Nobody gets care under the ACA.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, thanks for giving me the biggest laugh of the day, and it's not even noon here! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

It’s just subsidized private sector health insurance policies. So why is it called the Affordable Care Act instead of the Affordable Private Insurance Act? Because the position of healthcare providers has always been that treating the uninsured means they have to fleece everyone else. The Democrats assumed that requiring everyone to have a private insurance policy would cause the healthcare providers to dramatically lower their costs out of the goodness of their hearts. Of course, that never happened.

Run on repealing Obamacare. I double-dog-dare you. Watch as you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this November. (y)
 
So theyre all lying?
???

**** YES!!

Hell, McCain just got done telling voters that he would repeal Obamacare if they reelected him. They did. And he screwed them...and the rest of the Americans...over when the voting came around.

Hell yes, they lied.
 
???

**** YES!!

Hell, McCain just got done telling voters that he would repeal Obamacare if they reelected him. They did. And he screwed them...and the rest of the Americans...over when the voting came around.

Hell yes, they lied.
I can see why you’re so devoted to them.
 
I can see why you’re so devoted to them.
???

"devoted to them"???

What on earth makes you think I'm devoted to the likes of McCain? Jesus!!

You are dismissed.
 
That one guy did his part of the plan. The GOP Elites won't let Obamacare be repealed.

Probably because they don't want to get clobbered in elections, Dobbs is already hurting them badly enough.

If they did successfully repeal Obamacare, the GOP will be thrown out of power in a heartbeat.
 
It was one guy who stopped it.

Actually, McCain alone could not have stopped the "skinny repeal". Republicans had 52 Senators, and only needed 50 considering the VP tiebreaker.

Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski also voted against.

And he's dead.

These yahoos will repeal it and then realize they have no replacement.

Actually, the "skinny repeal" was a desperate attempt to progress a reconciliation bill. If it had passed, the next step would be a House/Senate committee to "reconcile" the House and Senate bills. And the requirement for both House and Senate to pass an identical bill is not waived by reconciliation: it's actually quite unlikely that a harsher bill would have passed the Senate later. The whole affair was a shambles, but after all, failure allowed the Republicans to use that year's reconciliation option to pass tax cuts. It could have been even worse for them: if McCain had voted Yea, but then died, Republicans would have used up their reconciliation for the year.

@Mycroft uses the wrong word for those Senators who broke party ranks. The correct term is not "elites." It's "RINOs." He's offended by their disloyalty to the Trumpublican Party, and references a deep state conspiracy not because he really believes it, but because he's ashamed of being such a party sycophant.
 
Save us from this catastrophe, Don!

Obamacare sign-ups hit record 21.3 million as Biden pushes his efforts to lower health care costs
A record 21.3 million Americans flocked to Affordable Care Act coverage for 2024, further cementing the law’s place in the nation’s health care landscape.

Nearly 5 million more people signed up for Obamacare policies for this year compared with last year, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which oversees the Affordable Care Act marketplaces, said Wednesday. Notably, about a quarter of people selecting plans were new consumers.
Several states, including many led by Republicans, saw massive jumps in sign-ups. In West Virginia, plan selections soared by around 80%, and in Louisiana by roughly 76%. Obamacare proved very popular in the two states with the highest number of plan selections: Texas and Florida, where 1.1 million and nearly 1 million more residents picked policies, respectively.

The number of people signing up is likely to tick up a little more since open enrollment is continuing through January 31 in four states and Washington, DC, which all run their own exchanges.
 
On the campaign trail, former President Donald Trump is once again promising to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act – a nebulous goal that became one of his administration’s splashiest policy failures.

It needs to be repealed but not replaced.

There's a robin outside my window that has a better understanding of healthcare than Trump and 90% of Americans.

Fixing your healthcare system is child's play.

Although it's abhorrent, what Congress needs to do is withhold Medicaid funding from the States until the State repeals the enabling laws and all insurance regulations, including the abomination known as the "Out-of-Network" regulation.

The Out-of-Network policy which became regulation was concocted by the American Hospital Association in 1936 in an attempt to force the 18% of hospitals that were members of the American Medical Association out of business or quite the AMA and join the American Hospital Association.

After the American Hospital Association created the Blue Cross it continued that policy to drive the Blue Shield (started by the AMA) out of business.

Because of that, employers paid and employees paid for two insurance policies so's their employees would be get stuck Out-of-Network which means the American Hospital Association stole money from Americans and employers

Can we all agree that is an immoral, unethical and anti-Free Market policy?

It's a simple question: Yes or No.

Then Congress needs to repeal one section of the IRS Tax Code.

Once that section is repealed, you can purchase a combined life/catastrophic healthcare policy.

You make payments for 10 years (120 months) and then you're done.

You never make another payment but you and your spouse (and minor children) are covered to the day you die and when you die whatever you haven't spent on healthcare goes to your named beneficiaries like your spouse and children and grandchildren so's they have money to go to college, technical or vocational school, buy a home or start a business.

In 1954 when Congress hated poor people and passed that statute at the behest of the American Hospital Association and screw everybody over, the standard policy was $100,000 which due to all forms of inflation would be the equivalent of $1 Million today.

So you pay your $69.72 premiums for 120 months and you're done.

You'll probably want a $250,000 annual emergency room policy which'll cost you $6.54/month and maybe a few other things but if you don't want doctor office visits or birth control or pregnancy/maternity coverage then you don't have to pay for them.

Even a homeless person could panhandle $4.19/month for a $100,000 ER policy.

Then Congress needs to levy a tax on hospitals so that any hospital providing more than 3 services pays 50% of the revenues as taxes.

Since no hospital could possibly do that, they'd break up into clinics and policlinics and guess what? Your system would be like Europe because excluding Britain, Spain and Portugal who have national healthcare systems prohibited by our Constitution all Euro-States use clinics and policlinics because they are more cost-effective and more efficient in healthcare delivery than hospitals.
 
It needs to be repealed but not replaced.

There's a robin outside my window that has a better understanding of healthcare than Trump and 90% of Americans.

Fixing your healthcare system is child's play.

Although it's abhorrent, what Congress needs to do is withhold Medicaid funding from the States until the State repeals the enabling laws and all insurance regulations, including the abomination known as the "Out-of-Network" regulation.

The Out-of-Network policy which became regulation was concocted by the American Hospital Association in 1936 in an attempt to force the 18% of hospitals that were members of the American Medical Association out of business or quite the AMA and join the American Hospital Association.

After the American Hospital Association created the Blue Cross it continued that policy to drive the Blue Shield (started by the AMA) out of business.

Because of that, employers paid and employees paid for two insurance policies so's their employees would be get stuck Out-of-Network which means the American Hospital Association stole money from Americans and employers

Can we all agree that is an immoral, unethical and anti-Free Market policy?

It's a simple question: Yes or No.

Then Congress needs to repeal one section of the IRS Tax Code.

Once that section is repealed, you can purchase a combined life/catastrophic healthcare policy.

You make payments for 10 years (120 months) and then you're done.

You never make another payment but you and your spouse (and minor children) are covered to the day you die and when you die whatever you haven't spent on healthcare goes to your named beneficiaries like your spouse and children and grandchildren so's they have money to go to college, technical or vocational school, buy a home or start a business.

In 1954 when Congress hated poor people and passed that statute at the behest of the American Hospital Association and screw everybody over, the standard policy was $100,000 which due to all forms of inflation would be the equivalent of $1 Million today.

So you pay your $69.72 premiums for 120 months and you're done.

You'll probably want a $250,000 annual emergency room policy which'll cost you $6.54/month and maybe a few other things but if you don't want doctor office visits or birth control or pregnancy/maternity coverage then you don't have to pay for them.

Even a homeless person could panhandle $4.19/month for a $100,000 ER policy.

Then Congress needs to levy a tax on hospitals so that any hospital providing more than 3 services pays 50% of the revenues as taxes.

Since no hospital could possibly do that, they'd break up into clinics and policlinics and guess what? Your system would be like Europe because excluding Britain, Spain and Portugal who have national healthcare systems prohibited by our Constitution all Euro-States use clinics and policlinics because they are more cost-effective and more efficient in healthcare delivery than hospitals.
Wow.

This post is totally void of understanding of the US healthcare system.
 
Wow.

This post is totally void of understanding of the US healthcare system.

I can cite the federal and State laws that made your system the nightmare it is.

What do you got?

Knee-jerk emotion.
 
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