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Zelensky's Hidden Wealth Revealed

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Hey wait -- I thought this guy was a saint -- so saintly that instead of him dying for us, we're instead all supposed to die for him -- in WW3





Revealed: ‘anti-oligarch’ Ukrainian president’s offshore connections​



Volodymyr Zelenskiy has railed against politicians hiding wealth offshore but failed to disclose links to BVI firm
Volodymyr Zelenskiy

Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s apparent business connections to Russia via Maltex are likely to prove controversial. Illustration: Guardian Design

Luke Harding, Elena Loginova and Aubrey Belford
Sun 3 Oct 2021 17.30 BST


It was a storyline that in earlier times would have seemed impossible. For four years, the actor and comedian Volodymyr Zelenskiy entertained TV audiences in Ukraine with his starring role in the sitcom Servant of the People. Zelenskiy played a teacher who, outraged by his country’s chronic corruption, successfully runs for president. In 2019, Zelenskiy made fiction real when he contested Ukraine’s actual presidential election and won.

On the campaign trail, Zelenskiy pledged to clean up Ukraine’s oligarch-dominated ruling system. And he railed against politicians such as the wealthy incumbent Petro Poroshenko who hid their assets offshore. The message worked. Zelenskiy won 73% of the vote and now sits in a cavernous office in the capital, Kyiv, decorated with gilded stucco ceilings. Last month, he held talks with Joe Biden in the Oval Office.

The Pandora papers, leaked to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) and shared with the Guardian as part of a global investigation however, suggest Zelenskiy is rather similar to his predecessors.
The leaked documents suggest he had – or has – a previously undisclosed stake in an offshore company, which he appears to have secretly transferred to a friend weeks before winning the presidential vote.

 
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The key document – dated 24 April 2019 – says Maltex holds shares in companies that produce and distribute TV films. One reason for setting up Maltex was “tax-efficient accumulation of business profits”; another, it states, was “legal protection”. Borys Sheifir said Bakanov had mostly set up these offshore “financial schemes” in order to protect the company from “authorities and bandits”.

“Speaking honestly, I’m not ready to respond to you. It could be that I’m an owner [of Maltex],” Shefir told the Organised Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP), one of the Pandora papers’ media partners. He said he was trying to divest himself of his offshore interests, but said this was a slow and difficult process. Serhiy Shefir, Bakanov and Yakovlev declined to comment, as did their lawyer.

The Maltex revelation is embarrassing for Zelenskiy given his pledge to crack down on those sending wealth overseas. Last month, Ukraine’s parliament passed an anti-oligarch bill. The vote took place a day after unknown assassins tried to kill Shefir. A gunman had opened fire on his car outside Kyiv. He was unharmed, but his driver was wounded. The attempt may have been motivated by opposition to the bill.

 
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The Pandora papers show that at least some of the details in the scheme alleged by Poroshenko’s party correspond to reality. They show that part of the Kvartal 95 network was managed with help from Fidelity Corporate Services, an offshore consultancy and one of 14 firms whose documents make up the leak. The files show that Zelenskiy and his business partners used companies based in the BVI, Belize and Cyprus.

The assets held via these offshore companies are wide-ranging. They include real estate in London. Shefir owns two top-end properties – a three-bedroom apartment in an Edwardian mansion block in Regent’s Park bought in 2016 for £1.575m, and another three-bedroom flat in nearby Baker Street, opposite the Sherlock Holmes Museum, and purchased for £2.2m, according to Land Registry records.

...Zelenskiy’s apparent business connections to Russia via Maltex are likely to prove controversial. Poroshenko faced criticism for owning a chocolate factory in Russia at a time when Ukraine was fighting a war against Russian troops and their proxies following the Kremlin’s annexation of Crimea in 2014. The conflict, in which 14,000 people have died, continues in the east of the country and in the Moscow-backed rebel territories of Donetsk and Luhansk. Russia was previously a major market for Kvartal 95, with Russian TV screening its comedy shows.
 
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Well Putin is worth 40 billion, so why should i care if the Ukranian President has money.
 

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Well Putin is worth 40 billion, so why should i care if the Ukranian President has money.
Because Zelensky is supposed to be a saint whom we're all supposed to die for -- in WW3
Nobody's claiming Putin's a saint.
 

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Well Putin is worth 40 billion, so why should i care if the Ukranian President has money.

The GOP is attempting to turn everyone against the Ukrainian president...and we all know why.
 

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Sanman, a Russian operative, lazily copy pasted Russian propaganda that has not been independently verified and shows no wrong doing on the part of Zelensky. No shit a famous comedian has some wealth.

In the meantime, Sanman wholeheartedly supports Putin, who while in office plundered tens of billions from the Russian people. You do not care about corruption, you only care about parroting Russian propaganda.
 

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The Pandora papers show that at least some of the details in the scheme alleged by Poroshenko’s party correspond to reality. They show that part of the Kvartal 95 network was managed with help from Fidelity Corporate Services, an offshore consultancy and one of 14 firms whose documents make up the leak. The files show that Zelenskiy and his business partners used companies based in the BVI, Belize and Cyprus.
The assets held via these offshore companies are wide-ranging. They include real estate in London. Shefir owns two top-end properties – a three-bedroom apartment in an Edwardian mansion block in Regent’s Park bought in 2016 for £1.575m, and another three-bedroom flat in nearby Baker Street, opposite the Sherlock Holmes Museum, and purchased for £2.2m, according to Land Registry records.
Meanwhile, Yakovlev’s BVI company Candlewood Investments owns a luxury flat in a Victorian mansion block in Artillery Row, Westminster. The properties were acquired around the time Zelenskiy’s show was turned into a feature film and recommissioned for a second series. It is unclear if the three flats are let out or used on an occasional basis. A Russian company that bills itself as an “individual service for high status clients” manages them.
Zelenskiy’s apparent business connections to Russia via Maltex are likely to prove controversial. Poroshenko faced criticism for owning a chocolate factory in Russia at a time when Ukraine was fighting a war against Russian troops and their proxies following the Kremlin’s annexation of Crimea in 2014. The conflict, in which 14,000 people have died, continues in the east of the country and in the Moscow-backed rebel territories of Donetsk and Luhansk. Russia was previously a major market for Kvartal 95, with Russian TV screening its comedy shows.
Boy, you sure love you some Vlad, don't you?
 

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Because Zelensky is supposed to be a saint whom we're all supposed to die for -- in WW3
Nobody's claiming Putin's a saint.
Who claimed Zelensky was a Saint? Is it a crime now to have large bank account?
 

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Hey OP, read rule #9.

 

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Because Zelensky is supposed to be a saint whom we're all supposed to die for -- in WW3
Nobody's claiming Putin's a saint.
Only Trump and his Adorables think Russia is ANY friend of Democracies.

What part of the Evil Empire are you writing from Comrade?
 

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Hey wait -- I thought this guy was a saint -- so saintly that instead of him dying for us, we're instead all supposed to die for him -- in WW3





Revealed: ‘anti-oligarch’ Ukrainian president’s offshore connections​



Volodymyr Zelenskiy has railed against politicians hiding wealth offshore but failed to disclose links to BVI firm
Volodymyr Zelenskiy

Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s apparent business connections to Russia via Maltex are likely to prove controversial. Illustration:


Typical right wing ploy

Doesn't matter if it's true or not

Tear them down with lies and half truths

The damage is done

Right wing propaganda is very effective
 

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Yup

It was easy to spot.
 

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Probably DP's biggest Putin fan boy. I suspect the posts are authored from the Evil Empire.
At least Faux Noose is trying to backtrack on their Putin love - sanny's just doubling down!
 

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At least Faux Noose is trying to backtrack on their Putin love - sanny's just doubling down!
Lots of Republicans who joined Trump's 4 year Putin worship are now silent, shame has a way of doing that.
 

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Unless he made it with Hunter Biden, it's probably legal.
 

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At least Faux Noose is trying to backtrack on their Putin love - sanny's just doubling down!
Tucker's not exactly loving on Poots but he is certainly not against him either. Now he's saying Biden is at fault for Russia invading Ukraine.
 

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Tucker's not exactly loving on Poots but he is certainly not against him either. Now he's saying Biden is at fault for Russia invading Ukraine.

Yep, that's the current right wing narrative being spewed by the paid shills in right wing media, and online right wing websites and blogs. But make no mistake, there will come a time when they start attacking Zelenskiy too...in fact it's already starting to slowly happen.
 

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Tucker's not exactly loving on Poots but he is certainly not against him either. Now he's saying Biden is at fault for Russia invading Ukraine.
Yeah, trump blew Putin constantly and weakened NATO. There is no doubt that fat donny, himself set the stage for embolden Vlad.
 

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Lots of Republicans who joined Trump's 4 year Putin worship are now silent, shame has a way of doing that.
Either that or they're trying to re-write what they said or did. Too bad video exists.
 

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Because Zelensky is supposed to be a saint whom we're all supposed to die for -- in WW3
Nobody's claiming Putin's a saint.
Zelenski is not "supposed to be a saint", but he has proven himself to be a hero. He has put his life at risk for his people and done it repeatedly. He has faced Putin and not backed down one iota even though Putin is much stronger than Zelenski and now has put a price on Zelenski's case.

In addition, your own link shows an article that has a lot of "seems to be" and "suggests it is", meaning there is no hard proof of the accusation. Even so, there is absolutely nothing wrong with him having done what the article suggests he has done. Everyone has the right to make money for himself and his family. In addition, the areas the article suggests he is involved with, are with companies that are doing nothing corrupt or wrong in their businesses.

What I do say is that this OP is as wrong as it gets. Anytime a person puts his life at risk to help others keep their freedom and right to life, it is worthy of all the respect one can give. Trying to denigrate or debase such a person is only done by someone with his head in the gutter. No one in life is perfect. No one is a saint. Nonetheless, there are only a few people that are willing to do what is right in spite of the fact that doing that could make them lose their life. Such people deserve all of our respect. Often they are much more than we can be on our best day.

Shame on you!
 
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Sanman, a Russian operative, lazily copy pasted Russian propaganda that has not been independently verified and shows no wrong doing on the part of Zelensky. No shit a famous comedian has some wealth.

In the meantime, Sanman wholeheartedly supports Putin, who while in office plundered tens of billions from the Russian people. You do not care about corruption, you only care about parroting Russian propaganda.
In a word...BORIS strikes out again. I would start to be pretty worried if I were BORIS. Failure for Russian Intelligence officers is not a wonderful place to be. Are your papers in order BORIS?
 

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I guess we should look on the bright side, at least the Russian apologists are happy to let it be known they forgive Russians actually killing women and kids then get all upset that Zelensky has a few dollars.

The OPs manufactured outrage is ironic on at least a dozen levels.
 
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