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Your reaction to killing Zarqawi (1 Viewer)

What wa syour first reaction to the news?

  • "Bush's idea of justice is bombs falling out of the sky?"

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • "Why is he dead again just now? I wonder if Karl's getting indicted tomorrow"

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • "Those pics look like they just thawed him out just in time for the elections."

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • "Zarqawi was quite probably a psy ops job in the first place, so what does that make his "death"?

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • "Just in time to hide the fact they're trying to cut the estate tax for the uber wealthy"

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • "Yes the timing of Zarqawi's death does seem too good for Bush to be true"

    Votes: 2 5.6%
  • Wooohoooo!

    Votes: 33 91.7%

  • Total voters
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Goobieman

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Truthfully, my first reaction was, "I hope they truly got him and it's not a mistake."--- Since they had said they captured him before and either let him go or it was the wrong guy. Then when they later noted they confirmed his fingerprints I was happy, proud and excited for the military to finally bag the bastard.
 
YES!!!!

And then, talking to myself (wait, wait, make sure it's true before you cheer)

And then, hearing a military spokesman saying "it is 100% confirmed"

YES!!!!
 
Goobieman said:
So, what was your first reaction to the news that Zarqawi was reduced to pink mist?


Note:
Dont blame ME for the responses noted in the opitons, above -- they came from The Daily Koz.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/8/75854/67368

If it is true then great.

Ususally when the media says they killed some Al Qeada leader it is is usally some smhuck we never heard of before.
 
I was very happy to hear this news until Easy65 commented that we should saw his head off. Now, I feel like we got cheated. I would have preferred to see his head sawed off. But I guess two 500 pound bombs comes in a close second. We can't have it all.:(
 
Goobieman said:
So, what was your first reaction to the news that Zarqawi was reduced to pink mist?


Note:
Dont blame ME for the responses noted in the opitons, above -- they came from The Daily Koz.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/8/75854/67368
It's awesome news! 'Pink mist' though? You'd think that that would be the case, what with at least two 500 lb bombs hitting the area. The video of the area shows complete rubble, but if you actually look at the pictures of his body, it is quite intact.

Nonetheless, great job by the Us military.
 
Captain America said:
I was very happy to hear this news until Easy65 commented that we should saw his head off. Now, I feel like we got cheated. I would have preferred to see his head sawed off. But I guess two 500 pound bombs comes in a close second. We can't have it all.:(
Perhaps they can cut and paste his body back together and then saw his head off and show the video tape of him getting his ead sawed off to the whole world.
 
jamesrage said:
Perhaps they can cut and paste his body back together and then saw his head off and show the video tape of him getting his ead sawed off to the whole world.
What the **** ?>
You guys sound like the guy we just killed. Sickos.
 
Good stuff, though I would've prefered he be captured and be humiliated to and shown as a wacko, that would've been a clear message.
But nevertheless, one less extremist bent on violent acts is always an excellent thing.
 
::Major_Baker:: said:
What the **** ?>
You guys sound like the guy we just killed. Sickos.

Sickos? You're too kind sir.

Myself, I prefer twisted pervert.

But hey, you say to-may-to I say to-mah-toe. :mrgreen:
 
As someone who has courted the media he made himself a high value target in PR terms, as such his elimination is a success for the operation in Iraq. However in military terms he was only one man, however well connected. His death will do little to restrain the insurgency. Indeed, with 'Al-Queda's man in Iraq' dead the US and Britain will probably need to give the media another devil to blame for the violence that is sure to continue. 'Foreign Fighters' never sounded convincing, maybe we'll start giving Iran it's due.

Nevertheless, despite his relative insignificance in the grand scheme of things, Zarqawi's death means one less nutcase out to destroy everything our nations stand for and hold dear. See you in hell Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, next few years we'll be sending plenty of your friends to keep you company sucking on Satan's balls. Adios.
 
woot!
Sure?

So, the country's still in turmoil, his position will be replaced in Al Quedia, we still have much work to do.
Why does it take so long to find these people, during the Cold War we had satilites that could read the type of cigarette a soviet guard was smoking, but we cannot find a 6'4 Arabic extremeist nor his pets?
 
I have said it a million times on this site, and this poll offers further confirmation:

Conservatives operate on facts, evidence, and substance, liberals operate on hysterics and conspiracy theories. Thanks for demonstrating. :lol:

Furthermore, what exactly is so perfect about the timing? 5 months before an election is an eternity. Last month, liberals were mapping out their "culture of corruption" angle they were going to pursue in 2006, but then people realized Republicans were right about liberals being the pot calling the kettle black, and it is dead.

Things change way too quickly for this to have been an election year ploy. And, as far as the other brain dead comment about this somehow being a ploy to cut more taxes "for the rich" (which is comically stupid anyway), giving small business owners more money to create more jobs would actually be a good thing. Clinton gave small businesses ("rich people") record high tax hikes and all it produced was a recession for Bush to inherit.
 
i guess the left of this site, just like the MSM, is too busy trying to figure out how to side step this milestone, so they can continue bashing Bush without giving any credit for something that is undeniably right

atleast we can take heart that Murtha is being his usual disgraceful self
i just cant wait for the Dems to GO DOWN IN FLAMES AGAIN in 06 because as usual they stand for NOTHING but Bush Sucks
 
I voted woohoo although I didn't actually say that out loud.
 
::Major_Baker:: said:
What the **** ?>
You guys sound like the guy we just killed. Sickos.
I just think a little poetic justice would be nice.
 
galenrox said:
I can see the merit in what you're saying, and as far as a gut emotional reaction I've got no problem with it.

But Major Baker raises a point that we need to remember we aren't adharantly better than the terrorists, we are better than the terrorists because we operate in a certain way, and obey certain rules of humanity, and thus if we allow ourselves to sink to their level then there's nothing that sets us above them.


We must remember that these scum do not care about things such as civility and rules of humanity and that they laugh at such things.To them the moral highground is weakness.
 
I think in the long term it means nothing. Someone will take his place and the violence will continue. The insurgency/terrorists/whatever doesn't hinge on one mans life.
 
galenrox said:
yes, and thus why we are better than them.

When it comes to a group that does not have any non-violent means to achieve whatever their goal may be, how much violence they use is a product of two things, the cost of terrorism (i.e. moral reservations, amount of money and man power used and lost in evading capture, losses in support, etc.), and the amount of resources that they have (man power, perceived moral justification, money, support, etc.)

So then there are two ways to decrease terrorism from these groups, increase the cost of terrorism or take away their resources.

The reason the war on terror is so complex is because you can't just raise the cost of terrorism or take away their resources without effecting the other aspect. For example, terrorism is the product of some sort of grievance, and thus logically if we removed that grievance than terrorism would go away, but taking that grievance would also increase the utility in terrorism, and thus de facto decrease the cost in terrorism, and thus it's a question of whether or not the cut is resources from removing that grievance would outweigh the cut in cost of violence.

And, more importantly as a critique of your comments, it goes the other way too. If we were to have done what you suggested to Zarqawi, it would increase the cost of violence, no doubt. It would also generate more grievances with the US, and thus increase their resources, and thus whether or not your plan would be effective would be dependant on the increase in the cost of terrorism outweighing the increase in resources that the terrorists will have due to said actions.

And that doesn't even take into consideration other factors, such as us trying to be a moral nation, the value of human rights, etc.
Dammit galen! No way is this the musings of a compulsive stoner, you're a poly-sci professor making like he's still as cool as he was in the 70's! I'm taking that and filing it for future reference. I had an assignment on terrorism last term and that would have fitted in nicely.

I'll reference you as Rox, G. "Balancing the Costs of Terror" 2006 :mrgreen:
 
I think it's a good thing.
 
Delighted his murderous reign is finally over.

What concerne me is what will they do with his body.

Now wait a moment,

He has beheaded and disposed of many bodies in places that no one knows.

I would suggest that he is covered with pig fat and then his body is cremated.
After this has been done they should release the news of the final disposition of his body to general news.
Perhaps if we treat them as they treat us they will think twice about their outrages.
(For those who are not aware, Islam is anti pig products also is anti cremation of corpses as they believe a body with pig parts on it or one that has been cremated will not allow it's owner to reach Paradise.)
 
I am as liberal as you will find in the forum, and I totally dislike Bush, yet

I thinks that Zarqawi was a ****ing dog, who was reponsible for the deaths of hundreds of men, women, and children in Iraq. He should have stayed home in Jordan.

I am glad that he is dead. I don't think it will matter at all. The insurgency will continue until the USA leaves and lets them have their civil war in peace.

There will never be democracy in Iraq.

Bush' corporate masters is just after control of oil.
 
jujuman13 said:
Delighted his murderous reign is finally over.

What concerne me is what will they do with his body.

Now wait a moment,

He has beheaded and disposed of many bodies in places that no one knows.

I would suggest that he is covered with pig fat and then his body is cremated.
After this has been done they should release the news of the final disposition of his body to general news.
Perhaps if we treat them as they treat us they will think twice about their outrages.
(For those who are not aware, Islam is anti pig products also is anti cremation of corpses as they believe a body with pig parts on it or one that has been cremated will not allow it's owner to reach Paradise.)


I think you make an excellent point.
 
galenrox said:
For example, terrorism is the product of some sort of grievance, and thus logically if we removed that grievance than terrorism would go away.


It just sucks that to remove that grievance you need to convert to Islam or keep playing whack a moleslim

There is a bottom to the barrel of terrorists

"policymakers must recognize that there is a finite number of effective terrorists. If, however, policymakers and intelligence officials believe that there is no bottom to the barrel of terrorists, then they will never defeat terrorists nor render them ineffective. For example, Israel was plagued by aircraft hijackings during the 1960s to 1980s. By enlisting the help of the superpowers, Israel was able to crack down on hijackings and empty that barrel of terrorists. When emptying the barrels of terrorists, it is not essential to capture or kill every last terrorist. Rather, the focus should be on arch-terrorists, or the main generators of terror. By cracking down on the upper echelons of a terrorist group, the authorities can immobilize the group and render it ineffective."
 
We killed a child when we killed Zarqawi. For me that's big and hard to gloss over. If it was a motion picture movie or Keifer Sutherland on 24 we wouldn't have killed a child. We should be better and more capable than that. The fact that we killed a child when we killed Zarqawi makes me very ashamed. I just think we are advanced enough that we should be able to take someone out without killing a kid and the fact that apparently we are not saddens me and I see nothing to be proud about or celebrate.
 
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