You can choose not to be pregnant without abortion.

[NCPilot]

Yeah but she gets paid a lot of money to not be able to play it. :lol:

Not anymore, I think she's in jail. :2razz:

 

[Kelzie]

Not anymore, I think she's in jail. :2razz:

Really?!? Guess she didn't see that one coming. :rofl :lol: Ahh I kill me.

 

[ngdawg]

That's why I was confused. Wait, why were you debating me when I said I wasn't okay with abortion after viability?

I think all but 'maybe' two who argue for pro-choice have the same stance-should be a no-go after viability-which, for those who would argue 'well, when would THAT be?', I'd tell them a sonogram would show maturation of all the organs. (Figure I'd try that psychic stuff)

 

[Kelzie]

I think all but 'maybe' two who argue for pro-choice have the same stance-should be a no-go after viability-which, for those who would argue 'well, when would THAT be?', I'd tell them a sonogram would show maturation of all the organs. (Figure I'd try that psychic stuff)

Just a warning. It's going very badly for me today. I'll have to remember to bring my crystal with me tomorrow. :mrgreen:

 

[FallingPianos]

It was the abortion=murder down in the basement.

you were saying that abortion is alright until viability, and after that the fetus could just be removed alive, and the mother could go home.

I was saying that there is a practical problem of getting the fetus out alive, without putting a lot of strain on the mother. might as well just let it stay there until natural birth.

 

[talloulou]

you were saying that abortion is alright until viability, and after that the fetus could just be removed alive, and the mother could go home.

I was saying that there is a practical problem of getting the fetus out alive, without putting a lot of strain on the mother. might as well just let it stay there until natural birth.

Plus babies born early are at much greater risk for health problems then babies born full term. So if you already carried a pregnancy through to the point of viablility then shouldn't it be a required duty to carry it through to term?

 

[Kelzie]

you were saying that abortion is alright until viability, and after that the fetus could just be removed alive, and the mother could go home.

I was saying that there is a practical problem of getting the fetus out alive, without putting a lot of strain on the mother. might as well just let it stay there until natural birth.

Why? It's the same amount of strain of a natural birth. The problem is that the mother doesn't want it at that point. Forcing her to carry it would be wrong.

 

[talloulou]

Why? It's the same amount of strain of a natural birth. The problem is that the mother doesn't want it at that point. Forcing her to carry it would be wrong.

But doing a c-section and putting the baby at risk for health problems due to being born early is a non-issue?

 

[Iriemon]

You can choose not to be pregnant without abortion.

Yes, it is true, the choice not to be pregnant without abortion does exist and it is done on a far more humane level, it is called: abstinence, this method will also help reduce sexually transmitted diseases and is an all round healthier option than alternate methods such as destroying humans in the womb.

Yeah, but ... what about sex?!

 

[jimmyjack]

Yeah, but ... what about sex?!

Are you claiming that sexual gratification is of greater importance than a human life?

 

[Iriemon]

Are you claiming that sexual gratification is of greater importance than a human life?

Are you claiming we shouldn't have sex unless we want to have a baby?

 

[Kelzie]

But doing a c-section and putting the baby at risk for health problems due to being born early is a non-issue?

They can just induce labor. No need for a c-section. And yes, considering the alternative, health risks is a non-issue.

 

[Kelzie]

Are you claiming we shouldn't have sex unless we want to have a baby?

Yes actually he is. Shhh....

 

[Iriemon]

Yes actually he is. Shhh....

It is my personal belief that a significant percentage of "pro-lifers" are really "anti-sexers".

 

[Kelzie]

It is my personal belief that a significant percentage of "pro-lifers" are really "anti-sexers".

And I think we all know they're just bitter cause they're not getting any. :mrgreen:

 

[talloulou]

And I think we all know they're just bitter cause they're not getting any. :mrgreen:

Good grief.

 

[Kelzie]

Good grief.

Except you tallou. Except you.

 

[jimmyjack]

Are you claiming we shouldn't have sex unless we want to have a baby?

No, I just state that if you get pregnant; don't kill innocent humans as an attempt to reverse the situation you have created.

 

[Kelzie]

No, I just state that if you get pregnant; don't kill innocent humans as an attempt to reverse the situation you have created.

Really? Cause I'm pretty sure I remember reading on another thread that you think people should only do the funky chicken if they want kids.

 

[NCPilot]

Actually, the only reason I'm not getting any is that I'm waiting till marriage, and if you want sex without the child, use a condom!

 

[Kelzie]

Actually, the only reason I'm not getting any is that I'm waiting till marriage, and if you want sex without the child, use a condom!

Awww...that's so romantic.

 

[Iriemon]

Really? Cause I'm pretty sure I remember reading on another thread that you think people should only do the funky chicken if they want kids.

I thought he was saying "just say no" to the funky chicken at the beginning of this thread.

 

[NCPilot]

Awww...that's so romantic.

Well, I am Roman Catholic, God and Jesus said that sex was only for married people, so yea.

 

[FallingPianos]

Really? Cause I'm pretty sure I remember reading on another thread that you think people should only do the funky chicken if they want kids.

there's a difference between wanting kids, and being willing to give birth to a child should one get pregnant.

 

[NCPilot]

I thought he was saying "just say no" to the funky chicken.

I think he's saying use a condom