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Yet More Proof That Trump Has Done Nothing Wrong Vs Virus

What they ****ing knew was that you don't bring on a Great Depression destroying everyone's lives in order to fight a virus that only effects 2.5%of the population and kills less than 1%. It's crazy to destroy 100% of American's lives in order to stop 2.5% from getting the virus.


 
We have 5% of the world's population and over 20% of its death. Your president's negligence is the reason for that.
Those are cherry picked numbers. China has a population of billions of people. Do you think the numbers they report are accurate? Do you think the numbers Russia, and third world countries are accurate? If those were accurately reported we would have approximately 5% of the deaths.
 
Trump has done the Biden plan. The Biden plan is what Trump is already doing.

Not even close. No large scale production and deployment of rapid testing to track the spread of the virus and allow normal life to resume safely, no federal initiatives to test and trace to contain the virus, no federal leadership on implementation of evidence-based guidelines for businesses and communities, no support for governments and businesses to stay open safely, no strategic plan for eliminating PPE shortfalls, no economic stimulus to address the ongoing devastation, no leadership on basic preventive measures like mask-wearing. There's literally no aspect of this that Trump has not screwed up, from dismantling virtually every aspect of pandemic readiness beforehand to his deliberate inaction for the past year.

The Trump "plan" is to do nothing and pretend it's over, even as the pandemic surges toward a devastating third peak. The Biden plan is to leverage the full power of the federal government and presidential leadership to address it.

Night and day.
 
What? The virus is surging worldwide.

Why is the president lying to the American people?

Quotes from the transcript of last nights debate:

There was a very big spike in Texas. It’s now gone. There was a very big spike in Arizona. It’s now gone. And there was some spikes and surges and other places, they will soon be gone. We have a vaccine that’s coming. It’s ready. It’s going to be announced within weeks. And it’s going to be delivered. We have Operation Warp Speed, which is the military is going to distribute the vaccine.
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I can tell you from personal experience, I was in the hospital. I had it and I got better. And I will tell you that I had something that they gave me, a therapeutic, I guess they would call it. Some people could say it was a cure, but I was in for a short period of time. And I got better very fast or I wouldn’t be here tonight. And now they say I’m immune. Whether it’s four months or a lifetime, nobody’s been able to say that, but I’m immune. More and more people are getting better. We have a problem that’s a worldwide problem. This is a worldwide problem, but I’ve been congratulated by the heads of many countries on what we’ve been able to do. If you take a look at what we’ve done in terms of goggles and masks and gowns and everything else, and in particular ventilators we’re now making ventilators all over the world, thousands and thousands a month distributing them all over the world. It will go away. And as I say, we’re rounding the turn. We’re rounding the corner. It’s going away.

 
The left have been touting Europe, Europe, Europe for months now and now with more waves coming it gets more and more obvious every day that there really isn't a way to stop the virus. Those who did more than the US are now finding out that it was all for naught and they are right back where they started, even worse.




Except for Sweden
 
What they ****ing knew was that you don't bring on a Great Depression destroying everyone's lives in order to fight a virus that only effects 2.5%of the population and kills less than 1%. It's crazy to destroy 100% of American's lives in order to stop 2.5% from getting the virus.
If we had had a short, serious national shutdown in March, followed by a public campaign encouraging mask-wearing and social distancing, many places around the country likely would never have had to shut down again. Any future shutdowns and economic problems are the direct consequence of the administration's failure to take preventative steps at the outset to slow the spread.

1% of America is 3 million people. The stat Trump misstated at the debate last night was that if no preventative measures were implemented, 2 million would die. That is exactly what Trump is now advocating -- that people just go back to normal and pretend like this virus does not exist. If that happens, millions of people will die, hospitals will be overrun, etc. If you don't think the death of 2-3 million people will cause a Great Depression, you are kidding yourself.

Also, your stat that COVID "only effects 2.5% of the population" is completely bogus.
 
Let's recap Trump's performance.

Trump spent three years dismantling global disease surveillance and pandemic preparedness, as well as hamstringing our ability to respond to any such outbreaks.

US public health agency to cut global surveillance by 80% (2018)
The administration is setting up the US to botch a pandemic response. (2018)
Cuts to CDC epidemic programs will endanger Americans, former chief says (2018)
U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak

If there was a way to ignore the possibility of a pandemic or reduce our readiness to respond to one, they found it.

DHS wound down pandemic models before coronavirus struck
Before Trump’s inauguration, a warning: ‘The worst influenza pandemic since 1918’
The U.S. had a pandemic war game called Dark Winter. Trump ignored its warnings.
Trump administration failed "Crimson Contagion" pandemic exercise.
Trump Admin Ducked Massive Mask Manufacturing Plan in 2018: Report

When the warning signs flashed red, he failed to react.

Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook
U.S. ‘wasted’ months before preparing for virus pandemic
U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic

Indeed, he actively stymied efforts to act and undermined the actions of others.

Trump administration scrapped plan to send every American a mask in April, email shows
The White House reportedly scrapped a national testing plan because the virus was mostly hitting blue states
Trump Tells Woodward He Deliberately Downplayed Coronavirus Threat
As Americans take virus precautions, Trump flouts advice
Trump Rails Against 'Fauci And These Idiots' In Campaign Call

When the outbreak happened, he did nothing to act.

We've witnessed one of the worst presidential performances in the history of this country. "Nothing wrong" indeed.
 
Those are cherry picked numbers.

They're facts. But please, don't let the facts get in your accelerationist way. :rolleyes:

China has a population of billions of people. Do you think the numbers they report are accurate? Do you think the numbers Russia, and third world countries are accurate? If those were accurately reported we would have approximately 5% of the deaths.

Just like trump last night, you try to pivot away from the fact that over 200,000 Americans are dead on his watch. It didn't work for him and it won't work for you. :)
 
He didn't downplay the virus at all. While he wasn't panicking Americans, he was working hard to deal with it the best he could without sending the US into a Great Depression.
Yea, as you desperately cling to a delusional narrative, your hyperbole will only get more ridiculous.

What they ****ing knew was that you don't bring on a Great Depression destroying everyone's lives in order to fight a virus that only effects 2.5%of the population and kills less than 1%. It's crazy to destroy 100% of American's lives in order to stop 2.5% from getting the virus.

Thanks for proving that point MR. anyhoo, you can cling to the delusional narraitive that he didnt want to panic people but he did more to cause the 30% drop in GDP in Q2. I'll type this slowly for you. Hong Kong, one of the most densely populated countries in the world, had almost 99% mask usage. Their economy contracted .1 percent (yes, point 1). Our president not only mocked people for wearing a mask, he also ignored social distancing guidelines. And to believe not closing bars and restaurants would magically prevented an economic collapse is even more delusional that your silly "didnt want to panic people" narrative.

Italy had a "soldiers in the streets" shutdown and their economy only went down 12% in Q2. You just cant deny trump's incompetence.
 
What they ****ing knew was that you don't bring on a Great Depression destroying everyone's lives in order to fight a virus that only effects 2.5%of the population and kills less than 1%. It's crazy to destroy 100% of American's lives in order to stop 2.5% from getting the virus.

Hi!

I can't help noting that a person's business or job can be 'destroyed', yet that person has a chance to re-build or regain what was lost.

A lost life is lost forever.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. Remember the Big 3: masks, hand washing and physical distancing.
 
He didn't downplay the virus at all.

trump downplayed the virus by saying it was going to disappear by Easter, that it would magically disappear, that it was a Democratic hoax, that you could just inject bleach, that there is a cure...

This man is a reckless endangerer of human life. But you and your accelerationist ilk don't care, because y'all are not pro-life.
 
The left have been touting Europe, Europe, Europe for months now and now with more waves coming it gets more and more obvious every day that there really isn't a way to stop the virus. Those who did more than the US are now finding out that it was all for naught and they are right back where they started, even worse.



Trump: "I take full responsibility; China's Fault!"

lol
 
trump downplayed the virus by saying it was going to disappear by Easter, that it would magically disappear, that it was a Democratic hoax, that you could just inject bleach, that there is a cure...

He downplayed it just last night on the debate stage.

 
He downplayed it just last night on the debate stage.



That maggot simply cannot admit that he has completely mismanaged the worst pandemic in a century. Deny, deflect, and lie is all he does.
 
Dr. Anthony Fauci has said multiple times that decisions that president Trump made saved lives!

Fauci has changed his tone since March. The fact that you still use this trash argument shows how out of touch you are.

Used car and timeshare salespeople must feast on gullible Trump supporters.
 
What they ****ing knew was that you don't bring on a Great Depression destroying everyone's lives in order to fight a virus that only effects 2.5%of the population and kills less than 1%. It's crazy to destroy 100% of American's lives in order to stop 2.5% from getting the virus.


Amazingly enough, 3 countries managed to do things properly, lockdown long enough to actually handle the virus AND maintain their economy.

Whereas we locked down just long enough to do damage, refused to do things (wear masks, etc) that let you open up safely, and spread the virus.

The economy isn't crap because of a lockdown, it's crap because nobody will go anywhere, because outside of a few boog nutcases, most people do not see a burning need to go to a bar or theater and get sick.
 
Trump has done the Biden plan. The Biden plan is what Trump is already doing.


Nope. That's wrong and dumb. What Trump did was repeatedly say there was no actual problem, and have FEMA seize masks from the VA.
 
Trump says we are rounding the corner and this pandemic is coming to an end. We are clearly at the beginning of a third wave which has started from a high baseline of cases. How can anybody vote for this idiot who is either out of touch or intentionally misleading the country?
 
You only say this because you're just fine with 200,000 dead Americans. Yet you people still won't shut up about Benghazi, when a grand total of four Americans died.

"Pro-life," my ass. 🖕
You’re so intellectually dishonest you have to conflate three issues without making any logical argument.

this is the reason we need poll tests back
 
You’re so intellectually dishonest you have to conflate three issues without making any logical argument.

this is the reason we need poll tests back


He was mean to you so we need Jim Crow?
 
Please. Lord. Deliver us from this madness.

Forgive them when it's over. They didn't know better.

That's precious. What did he say that's actually incorrect?
 
Let's recap Trump's performance.

Trump spent three years dismantling global disease surveillance and pandemic preparedness, as well as hamstringing our ability to respond to any such outbreaks.

US public health agency to cut global surveillance by 80% (2018)
The administration is setting up the US to botch a pandemic response. (2018)
Cuts to CDC epidemic programs will endanger Americans, former chief says (2018)
U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak

If there was a way to ignore the possibility of a pandemic or reduce our readiness to respond to one, they found it.

DHS wound down pandemic models before coronavirus struck
Before Trump’s inauguration, a warning: ‘The worst influenza pandemic since 1918’
The U.S. had a pandemic war game called Dark Winter. Trump ignored its warnings.
Trump administration failed "Crimson Contagion" pandemic exercise.
Trump Admin Ducked Massive Mask Manufacturing Plan in 2018: Report

When the warning signs flashed red, he failed to react.

Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook
U.S. ‘wasted’ months before preparing for virus pandemic
U.S. intelligence reports from January and February warned about a likely pandemic

Indeed, he actively stymied efforts to act and undermined the actions of others.

Trump administration scrapped plan to send every American a mask in April, email shows
The White House reportedly scrapped a national testing plan because the virus was mostly hitting blue states
Trump Tells Woodward He Deliberately Downplayed Coronavirus Threat
As Americans take virus precautions, Trump flouts advice
Trump Rails Against 'Fauci And These Idiots' In Campaign Call

When the outbreak happened, he did nothing to act.

We've witnessed one of the worst presidential performances in the history of this country. "Nothing wrong" indeed.
And of course his individual downplay of need to wear masks, his belittling people wearing masks, WW lack of consistent wearing of masks, holding large venue rallies where social distancing is discouraged and masks are not insisted upon. And lack of a national testing strategy that could help contain the pandemic in this country early on. Putting states in positions of bidding against each other for supplies?
 
And of course his individual downplay of need to wear masks, his belittling people wearing masks, WW lack of consistent wearing of masks, holding large venue rallies where social distancing is discouraged and masks are not insisted upon. And lack of a national testing strategy that could help contain the pandemic in this country early on. Putting states in positions of bidding against each other for supplies?

There's been no national coordinated strategy on any of this. Testing, tracing, containment, response. Zero federal leadership. What little has been done, in terms of guidelines put out by the feds, Trump has done his best to undermine and obliterate. We need leadership at this moment and we have none.
 
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