Yes, the USA Has a bi-furcated Justice System - No Longer Can Be Dismissed

[eohrnberger]

Been saying for quite some time that Hunter Biden’s criminality was going to be swept under the rug. Below are links to where I have stated this in the forums.

Now we find out that:

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Hunter Biden’s prosecutor rejected moves that would have revealed probe earlier​

Veteran U.S. attorney David Weiss, known for his willingness to take on powerful Delaware figures, kept his investigation into Biden’s son out of the 2020 campaign.​

By BEN SCHRECKINGER, 07/16/2021​

Hunter Biden’s prosecutor rejected moves that would have revealed probe earlier

Veteran U.S. attorney David Weiss, known for his willingness to take on powerful Delaware figures, kept his investigation into Biden’s son out of the 2020 campaign.

www.politico.com

Last summer, federal officials in Delaware investigating Hunter Biden faced a dilemma. The probe had reached a point where prosecutors could have sought search warrants and issued a flurry of grand jury subpoenas. Some officials involved in the case wanted to do just that. Others urged caution. They advised Delaware’s U.S. Attorney, David Weiss, to avoid taking any actions that could alert the public to the existence of the case in the middle of a presidential election.​

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“To his credit, he listened,” said a person involved in the discussions, reported here for the first time. Weiss decided to wait, averting the possibility that the investigation would become a months-long campaign issue.​

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Since taking office, President Joe Biden has left Weiss — a Republican appointed by Donald Trump on the recommendation of Delaware’s two Democratic senators — in place. That puts him in one of the most sensitive positions in the Justice Department, deciding how to proceed with an investigation of the president’s son that has proven politically fraught on several fronts.​

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The probe, which is focused on possible tax law violations, has also examined Hunter Biden’s business dealings with foreign interests — a topic that has animated Biden detractors — and its existence first came to light amid a controversy about the leak of Hunter Biden’s laptop files. Since then, the case has become a political football: Some critics have suggested that the Trump administration’s political agenda influenced a parallel federal probe that scrutinized Hunter Biden in Pittsburgh, while some Republicans have called for the appointment of a special prosecutor to shield Weiss’s investigation from the influence of the Biden administration.​

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Quite the excuse. It’s been months since the election.
Where’s the prosecution? The search warrants? Where’s the grand jury subpoenas?

Suspicions of the same were already justified with Comey's July 5th 2016 presser exonerating Hillary's housing of highly classified documented on her private email server, now it's beyond question.

No, we clearly have a bi-furcated justice system, where if you are a Democrat criminal you get a pass, all others, common folks, get prosecutorial persecution.

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Oct 31, 2020

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Beyond that, who knows anymore what the morass of the DC bureaucratic swamp is going to do to this, and how it'll end up.

That the FBI sat on Hunter Biden's laptop since December and have done nary a thing, apparently, could be they are burying this. This is not beyond the now politicized FBI, as the Strzok / Page sagas will tell you.

Mar 27, 2021

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We'll see. But I rather think that the DC swamp covers for the DC swamp, and, yes, that would include the DOJ, FBI and Secret Service.​

Jun 8, 2021

All fun stuff and all going to be swept under the DC corruption rug, never to be seen or heard from again.
DC is seriously broken.

 

[gbg3]

Oh, the double standard of justice!

 

[Mr Person]

bifurcated? If only.

There are many divisions. They generally point in one direction: down. Rich fare better than poor. White better than black. Celebrity somewhere in there. Etc.

Oh, the double standard of justice!

It is sad when a mattress flollops to its doom.

 

[Mr Person]

At any rate, y'know, charge people with crimes if you think they are guilty. Leave us alone. You said Hillary was a criminal, then you couldn't indict her. Same for everyone you accuse. Then your people go to jail.

But they aren't the *real* criminals? Jeebus. Enough.











tl;dr Criminals should go to jail. Get indictments.

 

[swing_voter]

Hunter Biden wasn't elected to office.

 

[CaughtInThe]

First everyone was too mean to republicans. Then everyone was too mean to Donald Trump. Then the election wasn't real. Now the courts are fake (again).


Rush Limbaugh isn't dead.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Been saying for quite some time that Hunter Biden’s criminality was going to be swept under the rug. Below are links to where I have stated this in the forums.

Now we find out that:

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Hunter Biden’s prosecutor rejected moves that would have revealed probe earlier​

Veteran U.S. attorney David Weiss, known for his willingness to take on powerful Delaware figures, kept his investigation into Biden’s son out of the 2020 campaign.​

By BEN SCHRECKINGER, 07/16/2021​

Hunter Biden’s prosecutor rejected moves that would have revealed probe earlier

Veteran U.S. attorney David Weiss, known for his willingness to take on powerful Delaware figures, kept his investigation into Biden’s son out of the 2020 campaign.

www.politico.com

Last summer, federal officials in Delaware investigating Hunter Biden faced a dilemma. The probe had reached a point where prosecutors could have sought search warrants and issued a flurry of grand jury subpoenas. Some officials involved in the case wanted to do just that. Others urged caution. They advised Delaware’s U.S. Attorney, David Weiss, to avoid taking any actions that could alert the public to the existence of the case in the middle of a presidential election.​

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“To his credit, he listened,” said a person involved in the discussions, reported here for the first time. Weiss decided to wait, averting the possibility that the investigation would become a months-long campaign issue.​

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Since taking office, President Joe Biden has left Weiss — a Republican appointed by Donald Trump on the recommendation of Delaware’s two Democratic senators — in place. That puts him in one of the most sensitive positions in the Justice Department, deciding how to proceed with an investigation of the president’s son that has proven politically fraught on several fronts.​

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The probe, which is focused on possible tax law violations, has also examined Hunter Biden’s business dealings with foreign interests — a topic that has animated Biden detractors — and its existence first came to light amid a controversy about the leak of Hunter Biden’s laptop files. Since then, the case has become a political football: Some critics have suggested that the Trump administration’s political agenda influenced a parallel federal probe that scrutinized Hunter Biden in Pittsburgh, while some Republicans have called for the appointment of a special prosecutor to shield Weiss’s investigation from the influence of the Biden administration.​

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Quite the excuse. It’s been months since the election.
Where’s the prosecution? The search warrants? Where’s the grand jury subpoenas?

Suspicions of the same were already justified with Comey's July 5th 2016 presser exonerating Hillary's housing of highly classified documented on her private email server, now it's beyond question.

No, we clearly have a bi-furcated justice system, where if you are a Democrat criminal you get a pass, all others, common folks, get prosecutorial persecution.

Related Forums Posts:
Oct 31, 2020


Mar 27, 2021


Jun 8, 2021

Hunter Biden? He still around?

 

[Lovebug]

The haves vs the unwashed. Not need to beat around the colored bush or such thing. Those who can vs those who wish they could. It is as ancient as time.

 

[eohrnberger]

Oh, the double standard of justice!

Yes, most certainly. However, it's not just Democrats. The DC swamp creatures protect each other as well.

Accused in Justice Dept.'s Upper Echelon, and Innocent Until Scot-Free
By Eric Felten, RealClearInvestigations, March 25, 2020

Accused in Justice Dept.'s Upper Echelon, and Innocent Until Scot-Free | RealClearInvestigations

Above, a crime lab depicted in the trailer for 1959's

www.realclearinvestigations.com

It wasn’t the first time the FBI attorney had been in the Marine Corps Base Quantico Exchange. Nor was that day in February 2018 the first time she had secreted cosmetics in her purse. But it was the first time she was caught – with $257.99 worth of shoplifted beauty products in her bag. She admitted to the crime – and to stealing from other area stores. And yet she was not prosecuted.

Not that it was a surprise. The Justice Department regularly declines to prosecute high-ranking current and former department officials, even when its Office of Inspector General provides the grounds for it.

The Department of Justice OIG does not keep complete public records on the number of prosecutions that result from its investigations. But the office does keep track of certain cases – those involving wrongdoing by senior DoJ managers and officials that Justice declines to prosecute.

In 2019 the Justice Department’s Inspector General’s office issued 27 such reports of alleged wrongdoing by senior Justice Department officials and employees that went unprosecuted – everything from nepotism in hiring, to making false claims on mortgage documents, to “lack of candor” with federal investigators, to sexual assault. RealClearInvestigations reviewed the OIG’s summaries of its investigations and found that in at least a dozen of those cases the inspector general determined that the wrongdoing was serious enough to be criminal. Even so, the Department of Justice declined to bring criminal charges. The sticky-fingered FBI attorney was one of the more strictly treated – she had to agree to 125 hours of community service to avoid prosecution.
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Do you think common folks would get the same leniency? I rather doubt it.

Equality before the law - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Is no more.

 

[trixare4kids]

Hunter Biden wasn't elected to office.

Irrelevant.

 

[eohrnberger]

The haves vs the unwashed. Not need to beat around the colored bush or such thing. Those who can vs those who wish they could. It is as ancient as time.

Sorry, but I'm not seeing that as any sort of justification for accepting it, when one of the founding principals is 'Equality before the law'.

I'm seeing it as the DC swamp in dire need to have bright disinfecting sunlight cast on it.

What's next? Should we accept this as well?

The Left’s Pattern of Overlooking Due Process

In the hierarchy of progressive values, due process is a bottom dweller.

www.dailysignal.com

 

[Captain Adverse]

Hunter Biden wasn't elected to office.

True. But his father was. That would not matter either...if not for the issues with Ukraine and Burisma (I told them to fire that Prosecutor or not getting any money, and "son of a bitch, he was fired"), Chinese business "meetings" using Air Force 2, other business meetings allegedly involving Biden when he was VP, and Mr. Biden denying all of them.

 

[upsideguy]

First everyone was too mean to republicans. Then everyone was too mean to Donald Trump. Then the election wasn't real. Now the courts are fake (again).


Rush Limbaugh isn't dead.

I think "Rush Limbaugh" is the only thing on your list that might actually be true.

 

[eohrnberger]

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The Case for Prosecuting Hunter Biden​

The basis for a criminal investigation was already considerable before the sudden emergence of an apparent false statement on a firearms form.​

By ANDREW C. MCCARTHY,March 27, 2021​

The Case for Prosecuting Hunter Biden | National Review

The basis for a criminal investigation was already considerable before the sudden emergence of an apparent false statement on a firearms form.

www.nationalreview.com

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Charles C. W. Cooke had a post this week that said everything that ought to be said about why it would be fitting to prosecute Hunter Biden’s apparent making of a false statement on the required firearms application form. I want to add a few points about prosecutorial discretion, the potential of an additional gun crime, and our two-tiered justice system.​

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The Politicostory Charlie cites stresses that prosecutions arising out of false statements on Form 4473 are rare. As Charlie rightly observes, that in itself is a problem (a point Kevin D. Williamson also made a few days ago). Still, it is worth widening the lens beyond the narrow false-statements provision in the gun laws because the government actually prosecutes false statements all the time.​

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There is a general false-statements statute (Section 1001 of the penal code) which can be applied any time someone makes a false statement, including a material omission, to some branch, department, or agency of the federal government. Then there are false statements charges that apply to particular subject-matter areas, such as firearms or taxes. Hence, we have Section 922(a)(6), which, as Charlie explained, applies to false statements made in connection with the acquisition or attempted acquisition of a firearm.​

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The fact that these narrowly tailored false-statements statutes are invoked more rarely should not be taken to mean that false-statements prosecutions are infrequent. They are not. And a good many false statements that result in indictments involve situations markedly less serious than lying to conceal a disqualification from firearms possession — especially under circumstances where, due to the lie, the disqualified person succeeded in obtaining a gun (and then was lax in safeguarding it).​

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In the Mueller investigation, for instance, Michael Flynn was prosecuted for misdescribing a conversation, indicative of no misconduct, of which the FBI had a recording and therefore no need to question him. George Papadopoulos and Alex van der Zwaan were prosecuted for false statements about the dates of meetings, and in neither situation was an investigation impeded — much less were the prevaricators, thereby, able to acquire dangerous weapons.​

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Where's Equality before the law? Or is this little more than pabulum fed to the 'little guy' to keep him happy? To keep him from questioning further?

 

[eohrnberger]

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Animal Farm - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[TheParser]

Oh, yes, our "justice" system is lenient when it comes to two groups: (a) friends and family of important Democrats and (b) street thugs who rob, sucker punch, loot, rape, & murder.

That's just how the cookie crumbles in 2021 America.

Those two groups became emboldened when (reputedly) 80,000,000 voters last November ratified the corruption and the media censorship and the violence that occurred last year.

 

[Callen]

Veteran U.S. attorney David Weiss, known for his willingness to take on powerful Delaware figures, kept his investigation into Biden’s son out of the 2020 campaign.

Oh, the double standard of justice!

I notice this was of part of Tuckers opening last night. I guess he forgot to mention the part where Barr had issued a memo to all Federal prosecutors that there were to be no investigations of candidates, the campaign or their advisors leading up to the 2020 elections without his specific approvals. Of course, it was also Barr who after, the election said he saw no need for a special prosecutor in the Hunter Biden case.

Is it not reasonable that Barr told this prosecutor to lay off until after the election? Or maybe that doesn't play that well on Fox.

Barr says no investigations into 2020 candidates, campaigns without his approval

His directive follows a report by the Justice Department's inspector general that harshly criticized the FBI's investigation of the 2016 Trump campaign.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[SarahSun]

Oh, the double standard of justice!

If he were Hunter Trump the media would be in a frenzy

 

[eohrnberger]

I notice this was of part of Tuckers opening last night. I guess he forgot to mention the part where Barr had issued a memo to all Federal prosecutors that there were to be no investigations of candidates, the campaign or their advisors leading up to the 2020 elections without his specific approvals. Of course, it was also Barr who after, the election said he saw no need for a special prosecutor in the Hunter Biden case.

Is it not reasonable that Barr told this prosecutor to lay off until after the election? Or maybe that doesn't play that well on Fox.

Barr says no investigations into 2020 candidates, campaigns without his approval

His directive follows a report by the Justice Department's inspector general that harshly criticized the FBI's investigation of the 2016 Trump campaign.

www.nbcnews.com

Which one of these 'candidates, the campaign or their advisors' is Hunter?

 

[Callen]

Which one of these 'candidates, the campaign or their advisors' is Hunter

Give me a break. The RW media has been pulling Biden into every aspect of the Hunter Biden laptop issues including the baseless allegation that Biden was getting a kickback and selling influence to benefit his son. In fact, the linked article even skews this article to make it appear it was to benefit Hiden the candidate.

It should also be noted that Biden replaced all the prosecutors except the one investigating his son because he did not want to show any signs of political interference.

The way Fox and others manipulate the facts, leave out important facts is beyond responsible reporting.

 

[eohrnberger]

Give me a break. The RW media has been pulling Biden into every aspect of the Hunter Biden laptop issues including the baseless allegation that Biden was getting a kickback and selling influence to benefit his son. In fact, the linked article even skews this article to make it appear it was to benefit Hiden the candidate.

Sorry, but not baseless. Biden's immediate family have been 'selling access' to Biden as long as Biden was in public office.

It should also be noted that Biden replaced all the prosecutors except the one investigating his son because he did not want to show any signs of political interference.

So Biden left the same prosecutor in place who didn't proceed with his investigation to the next step of 'where prosecutors could have sought search warrants and issued a flurry of grand jury subpoenas.' ?

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Last summer, federal officials in Delaware investigating Hunter Biden faced a dilemma. The probe had reached a point where prosecutors could have sought search warrants and issued a flurry of grand jury subpoenas. Some officials involved in the case wanted to do just that. Others urged caution. They advised Delaware’s U.S. Attorney, David Weiss, to avoid taking any actions that could alert the public to the existence of the case in the middle of a presidential election.​

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“To his credit, he listened,” said a person involved in the discussions, reported here for the first time. Weiss decided to wait, averting the possibility that the investigation would become a months-long campaign issue.​

Hunter Biden’s prosecutor rejected moves that would have revealed probe earlier

Veteran U.S. attorney David Weiss, known for his willingness to take on powerful Delaware figures, kept his investigation into Biden’s son out of the 2020 campaign.

www.politico.com

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So Biden left the same prosecutor in place who didn't proceed with his investigation to the next step of 'where prosecutors could have sought search warrants and issued a flurry of grand jury subpoenas.' <sarcasm> Imagine that. What a surprise. </sarcasm>

The way Fox and others manipulate the facts, leave out important facts is beyond responsible reporting.

I agree that the report from Fox would have been more complete had it included Barr's memo to all Federal prosecutors. Fair enough.
Whether that raises to 'beyond responsible reporting' or not, I'm not all that sure.

Once thing for certain, the LW media does this all the time as well, leaving out such context when doing so favors a Democrat, that and far worse, if you ask me.

Specific to Barr's memo, which one of these 'candidates, the campaign or their advisors' is Hunter?

Nor does any of this address the clear bi-furcated justice system we have here in the US. The multiple Hunter criminal cases are one of a long list of inconsistencies, and I'm sure, some favoring one political side while other favor the other political side. But in the end, all of them favor the political elites and disfavor the common folks.

 

[Callen]

Sorry, but not baseless. Biden's immediate family have been 'selling access' to Biden as long as Biden was in public office.

You have no facts to support that only speculation based on emails published out of context and spun to make it look that way.

So Biden left the same prosecutor in place who didn't proceed with his investigation to the next step of 'where prosecutors could have sought search warrants and issued a flurry of grand jury subpoenas.' ?

How do you know he hasn't. Since when do prosecutors provide press releases on the status of their investigations.

Specific to Barr's memo, which one of these 'candidates, the campaign or their advisors' is Hunter?

As I explained in my previous post....give me a break. The Hunter laptop investigation had been so tightly woven into the Biden candidacy it would be impossible to extricate.

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[eohrnberger]

You have no facts to support that only speculation based on emails published out of context and spun to make it look that way.

Regardless of how it's 'spun', still doesn't get around what has been released, and the other already demonstrated and documented instances of Hunter's criminality.

There is a general false-statements statute (Section 1001 of the penal code) which can be applied any time someone makes a false statement, including a material omission, to some branch, department, or agency of the federal government. Then there are false statements charges that apply to particular subject-matter areas, such as firearms or taxes. Hence, we have Section 922(a)(6), which, as Charlie explained, applies to false statements made in connection with the acquisition or attempted acquisition of a firearm.
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Hunter Biden was also kicked out of the U.S. Navy in 2014 for cocaine use. Consistent with the special treatment to which he is accustomed, the son of the then-vice president of the United States was permitted to be separated from the Navy administratively, rather than be dishonorably discharged.

The Case for Prosecuting Hunter Biden | National Review

The basis for a criminal investigation was already considerable before the sudden emergence of an apparent false statement on a firearms form.

www.nationalreview.com

How do you know he hasn't. Since when do prosecutors provide press releases on the status of their investigations.

As I explained in my previous post....give me a break. The Hunter laptop investigation had been so tightly woven into the Biden candidacy it would be impossible to extricate.

We are well past Biden candidacy, are we not? Still no progress, no charges, no indictments, no grand jury.
It certainly seems to have been swept under the DC corruption rug, does it not?

 

[Callen]

Still no progress, no charges, no indictments, no grand jury.
It certainly seems to have been swept under the DC corruption rug, does it not?

No, it does not! You simply do not know this to be true. As I mentioned prosecutors do not release details of ongoing investigations. They didn't under Barr and they won't under Garland. In my view, this is exactly how misinformation spreads like wildfire on the right. You have no way at all of knowing at what stage the investigation is at and what they may, or may not, have done so far. Agree there is no charges yet, that would happen in an open court.

 

[eohrnberger]

No, it does not! You simply do not know this to be true. As I mentioned prosecutors do not release details of ongoing investigations. They didn't under Barr and they won't under Garland. In my view, this is exactly how misinformation spreads like wildfire on the right. You have no way at all of knowing at what stage the investigation is at and what they may, or may not, have done so far. Agree there is no charges yet, that would happen in an open court.

Whatever. Call me deeply, and justifiably skeptical then, that it won't be swept under the DC corruption rug.