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Yes or No?

stevecanuck

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Here's a statement I've made several times, and not one person has ever stated whether they agree or disagree, let alone why. So, I ask you, did I get this right?
  • Christians who act atrociously do so despite the deeds and words ascribed to Jesus.
  • Muslims who act atrociously do so in accordance with the deeds and words attributed to Mohamed.
 
General statements like this can be true or false for each individual person.

So if you ever DO get an answer from someone about it, it's incorrect.
 
Nope.
 

Probably some truth to your statements there.

Although it's prolly important to note that only the very radical muslims are the ones who lop off heads and crash planes into buildings.

Am pretty comfortable in believing that the overwhelming majority of both muslims and christians just want to live in peace. Get along with the neighbors. Watch their kids grow up happy and healthy.

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Plenty of Christians think they are supporting the deeds and words of Jesus no matter how atrocious they seem to others. The reverse is true for the Muslim statement. Silly over generalized statements serve no purpose other than to denigrate Muslims in this case. Sharia and Bible law can both go **** themselves.
 
Neither religion just wants to live in peace with the others existing.
 
Slavister said:
General statements like this can be true or false for each individual person.

So if you ever DO get an answer from someone about it, it's incorrect.
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No, specifics can be cited.
 
pragmatic said:
Probably some truth to your statements there.

Although it's prolly important to note that only the very radical muslims are the ones who lop off heads and crash planes into buildings.
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I agree.

Do you mind further defining what you mean by "very radical"? Are they people who follow Islam to the letter, or do they have to 'read in' the necessity to lop off heads? I think of them as the former based on two decades plus of studying the Qur'an.

pragmatic said:
Am pretty comfortable in believing that the overwhelming majority of both muslims and christians just want to live in peace. Get along with the neighbors. Watch their kids grow up happy and healthy.
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That's actually a separate question, and getting into it would undoubtedly derail this thread.
 

No. you didn't get it right.
 
stevecanuck said:
Examples?
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A Muslim who murders his neighbor to steal his wallet is not in accordance with the words attributed to Mohamed, peace be upon him or whatever.

Christians who killed girls by hanging them from trees for witchcraft were acting in accordance with the words attributed to Jesus. Peace be upon him or whatever.
 
AConcernedCitizen said:
A Muslim who murders his neighbor to steal his wallet is not in accordance with the words attributed to Mohamed, peace be upon him or whatever.
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Correct. Islam does not condone everyday crimes like that.

AConcernedCitizen said:
Christians who killed girls by hanging them from trees for witchcraft were acting in accordance with the words attributed to Jesus. Peace be upon him or whatever.
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I think I know where you're going with this, but I'd still like you to explain that.
 
stevecanuck said:
Correct. Islam does not condone everyday crimes like that.
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Correct.

stevecanuck said:
I think I know where you're going with this, but I'd still like you to explain that.
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The words attributed to Jesus: "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

The aforementioned law that Jesus warned against setting aside: "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
 
Would have to say Yes AND No.
Your question is to generalized in that you imply ALL Christians or ALL Muslims.
 

Probably because it is too generalized.

There is plenty of history to support the thesis, but also plenty to argue against it. I would assume the biggest factor not all Christians act by the same standards, easiest to attribute to splinters Christianity that tend to interpret "deeds and words ascribed to Jesus" to various ends. The more fundamentalist, the more Old Testament in application the more likely to see acting atrociously get past the "despite" part. I would go so far as to say in some contexts Christianity is not that difficult to blur a line between righteousness and actually being morally good.

Not quite the same but similar condition for Muslims. What I would say is Islam is the easiest of the three Abrahamic Religions to weaponize, thus give the most greatest latitude for someone to act atrociously and attribute that to Mohammad and/or the text in some regard. But that does not mean each Muslim will act atrociously in the first place, and when those that do suddenly claim "in accordance." At least not with any sense of general agreement.

So, no, you did not get that right as not everyone of a particular Abrahamic Religion looks at things the same way.
 
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