Xi Jinping Warns U.S. On Pelosi Possible Visiting Taiwan

[rhinefire]

The U.S. must spit in the face of threats by Xi. He is a nutcase.

China warns US 'will have to bear consequences' if Pelosi goes ahead with Taiwan visit- Republic World

China, on Tuesday, fired dire warnings at the United States asserting that it is challenging Chinese authorities' 'red line' and is provoking Beijing to issue 'resolute countermeasures' by not deterring from planning a visit to the self-administered island nation, Taiwan. Tensions have remained...

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[soylentgreen]

And if she does not go to taiwan now how weak the amricans will look.

 

[VySky]

And if she does not go to taiwan now how weak the amricans will look.

Obama’s red line weak look.

 

[Tangmo]

And if she does not go to taiwan now how weak the amricans will look.

According to RT Pelosi will visit Taiwan on this trip. Supposed ramifications (unspecified) would come later. RT said, "Top US officials think it’s acceptable to push against China’s red lines. It may not lead to war now, but will increase the danger further down the line."

The Pelosi itinerary is Japan, SK, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, in a southern traveling arc. It's still unclear whether her USAF plane would travel over land to Malaysia and Singapore or traverse the South China Sea. Given Pelosi's balls I'd say traverse the Sea.

Pentagon has the Reagan Carrier Strike Group near Taiwan, fast deploying it from its port call in Singapore. Reagan Strike Group is based in Japan.

US intelligence aircraft are all over the east coast of China, Taiwan island and the South China Sea where the PLA Navy South Fleet has a large base on Hainan island in the north center of the Sea, right off the southern China mainland. US air assets on Guam which is at almost the same parallel as Taiwan are on standby with its intelligence aircraft already airborne. US intelligence aircraft from SK and Japan are already airborne.

Yes, anything can happen to include a last minute cancellation of the Pelosi visit to Taiwan, but Pelosi is completely set on the visit. Biden besides has himself not made a big deal against it. He doesn't want to be hollering against it while she's there -- it really would him look silly. So Biden made a slightly skeptical comment in passing and moved on to other things.

Pelosi’s possible Taiwan visit will not lead to war – yet

If US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pays a visit to Taiwan, China is bound to react somehow to preserve its red lines

www.rt.com

 

[rhinefire]

Maybe China will close all Walmart stores for a week.

 

[VySky]

A. Why is Pelosi going to Taiwan at this time?

B. Who asked her to go?

 

[anatta]

According to RT Pelosi will visit Taiwan on this trip. Supposed ramifications (unspecified) would come later. RT said, "Top US officials think it’s acceptable to push against China’s red lines. It may not lead to war now, but will increase the danger further down the line."

The Pelosi itinerary is Japan, SK, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, in a southern traveling arc. It's still unclear whether her USAF plane would travel over land to Malaysia and Singapore or traverse the South China Sea. Given Pelosi's balls I'd say traverse the Sea.

Pentagon has the Reagan Carrier Strike Group near Taiwan, fast deploying it from its port call in Singapore. Reagan Strike Group is based in Japan.

US intelligence aircraft are all over the east coast of China, Taiwan island and the South China Sea where the PLA Navy South Fleet has a large base on Hainan island in the north center of the Sea, right off the southern China mainland. US air assets on Guam which is at almost the same parallel as Taiwan are on standby with its intelligence aircraft already airborne. US intelligence aircraft from SK and Japan are already airborne.

Yes, anything can happen to include a last minute cancellation of the Pelosi visit to Taiwan, but Pelosi is completely set on the visit. Biden besides has himself not made a big deal against it. He doesn't want to be hollering against it while she's there -- it really would him look silly. So Biden made a slightly skeptical comment in passing and moved on to other things.

Pelosi’s possible Taiwan visit will not lead to war – yet

If US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pays a visit to Taiwan, China is bound to react somehow to preserve its red lines

www.rt.com

Thanks for all the info. If she goes it's a win for her and the USA. we simply cannot pass by without stopping by.
China has to stand down from her threatening posture of telling us where we can send officials and diplomats.

Who knows maybe we;ll start to focus on what the hell we an do about exponential Chinese military growth.
instead of emptying the stores for the shelling in Donbas. Praise the lord - and more and more ammo please.

 

[anatta]

Tensions have remained ripe between the two global superpowers, China and US, over the latter's Taiwan diplomacy. Prospects of a potential visit to the island by US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has PRC fuming over what it describes United States' belligerent acts and attempts at regional hegemony.

it's hilarious to hear China accusing others of hegemony. But it's difficult to square a visit with the "One China"policy

 

[Tangmo]

it's hilarious to hear China accusing others of hegemony. But it's difficult to square a visit with the "One China"policy

Impossible any more. Potus and Congress are done and finished with the so called "One China," so called policy. This new rejection has become the consensus in Washington and among experts no matter who is in charge.

The controversial one China thingy was a nowhere CCP brainfart released by Deng Xiao Ping in the 1970s. It was dredged up for Taiwan in 1992 as an unwritten "tacit" agreement while UK and CCP were figuring out the return of Hong Kong to Beijing sovereignty. Beijing said the Deng brainfart of one country two systems would apply to Taiwan too. The main written agreement however was exclusively that HKG would become one with China again but retain the existing liberties and freedoms that were the natural order under the British. Hence, one China, two systems for HKG, Macao, Taiwan. Of course CCP DictatorTyrants in Beijing have executed their mass murder of democracy in HKG, which was always their intent, while Macao wimped out years ago.

Taiwan is quite the different CCP migraine of course.

Under the unwritten "1992 consensus" tacit understanding for Taiwan the then-Kuomintang (KMT) government of Taiwan and the Chinese government acknowledge that there is only "one China," with each side free to interpret what that means. Each side thus had its cake and could eat it too. That is, Beijing asserts out of thin air it is the government of all China to include Taiwan. Taipei while governed by the KMT said it is the government of China to include all of the mainland. So there.

It's of a high importance and significance however the currently governing pro independence Democratic Progressive Party of the incumbent reelected by a landslide Pres. Tsai ing-wei never agreed in any way to the tacit one China thingy. DPP has always rejected the one China two systems sinister subterfuge and malevolent fakery. And DPP has a landslide hold on the national legislature besides (since 2016 but never before).

So now the ever desperate CCP Boyz accuse the US and allies of "salami slicing" the always bogus one china nonsense into nothing of it remaining. Nothing of it sooner rather than later.

Really sooner...

It's about a feeling on Beijing's part that the United States is sort of salami-slicing elements of the status quo — elements of the understanding about the US and Chinese policies regarding Taiwan. You've had two senior Republicans, Mike Pompeo and Mark Esper, go to Taipei recently and suggest doing away with the US "One China" policy. There is legislation in Congress that would change some parts of the US-Taiwan relationship. So I think, from the Chinese point of view, it's this string of actions. And now you have Pelosi's visit, as well. My guess is that the Chinese will, especially with the party congress upcoming, have to do something to show their serious displeasure with this visit. Exactly what that is, I don't know.

Nancy Pelosi's Taiwan trip would be 'high risk, low reward' | DW | 30.07.2022

It remains unclear whether US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will visit Taiwan, but the possibility has Chinese officials upset. Zack Cooper, of the Alliance for Securing Democracy, says a visit might do more harm than good.

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The above is from Deutsche Welle and the following is from its old time brethren RT:

The US has continued to deride and press against China’s red line on the Taiwan issue, while at the same time officially claiming at the presidential level its policy remains the same to reassure China. This is a strategy that has been described as ‘Salami Slicing’ by Beijing, which endeavours to gradually shift the status quo towards Taiwan independence, while claiming not to do so to avoid strategic upsets that can create conflict. This is provocative and subtle. Ukraine has made many overconfident in the belief that China has been made to ‘think twice’ over Taiwan, and as a result, ultra-hawks, especially in Congress, are now happy to push this button further in believing they can call Beijing’s bluff.

Pelosi’s possible Taiwan visit will not lead to war – yet — Analysis - Mass News

Top US officials think it’s acceptable to push against China’s red lines. Although it won’t lead to war immediately, it could increase danger later. By Timur FomenkoAn analyst in politics Speaker of the US House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi appears to be on the verge of a trip to Taiwan, an...

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[Tangmo]

A. Why is Pelosi going to Taiwan at this time?

B. Who asked her to go?

Who asked you to post about it?



We do what we do.

 

[soylentgreen]

According to RT Pelosi will visit Taiwan on this trip. Supposed ramifications (unspecified) would come later. RT said, "Top US officials think it’s acceptable to push against China’s red lines. It may not lead to war now, but will increase the danger further down the line."

The Pelosi itinerary is Japan, SK, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, in a southern traveling arc. It's still unclear whether her USAF plane would travel over land to Malaysia and Singapore or traverse the South China Sea. Given Pelosi's balls I'd say traverse the Sea.

Pentagon has the Reagan Carrier Strike Group near Taiwan, fast deploying it from its port call in Singapore. Reagan Strike Group is based in Japan.

US intelligence aircraft are all over the east coast of China, Taiwan island and the South China Sea where the PLA Navy South Fleet has a large base on Hainan island in the north center of the Sea, right off the southern China mainland. US air assets on Guam which is at almost the same parallel as Taiwan are on standby with its intelligence aircraft already airborne. US intelligence aircraft from SK and Japan are already airborne.

Yes, anything can happen to include a last minute cancellation of the Pelosi visit to Taiwan, but Pelosi is completely set on the visit. Biden besides has himself not made a big deal against it. He doesn't want to be hollering against it while she's there -- it really would him look silly. So Biden made a slightly skeptical comment in passing and moved on to other things.

Pelosi’s possible Taiwan visit will not lead to war – yet

If US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pays a visit to Taiwan, China is bound to react somehow to preserve its red lines

www.rt.com

If she does not go now china will see it as a weakness.
The trick with the chinese is they respect strength and despise arrogance.
It is a fine line to walk. The x prime minister of australia tried strength and ended up only sounding arrogant. End result, the australian wine industry lost millions due to chinese tariffs.

 

[Luce]

Now she pretty much HAS to go.

 

[humbolt]

it's hilarious to hear China accusing others of hegemony. But it's difficult to square a visit with the "One China"policy

Maybe she's going to announce the intended absorption of the mainland by Taiwan. That would be worth a visit or two.

 

[HumblePi]

A. Why is Pelosi going to Taiwan at this time?

B. Who asked her to go?

It's not uncommon for a Speaker to visit U.S. key partners in the Indo-Pacific. Her visit isn't anything new. As a matter of fact, a bipartisan group of members of Congress just visited Taiwan in April of this year. Bob Menendez, Lindsey Graham, Richard Burr, Ben Sasse, Rob Portman and Ronny Jackson spent two days in Taiwan this past April.

China has a hard time figuring out our government structure. China may be confusing Pelosi's visit with an official administration visit, since she and Biden are both Democrats. But this is not an official administration visit. Congress and the Presidency are two separate branches of government. Speakers of the House have visited Taiwan in the past without all this grumbling from China. **** China, let them do all the saber-rattling they want to do. Nancy Pelosi has every right to take that trip if she chooses to.

 

[Tangmo]

If she does not go now china will see it as a weakness.
The trick with the chinese is they respect strength and despise arrogance.
It is a fine line to walk. The x prime minister of australia tried strength and ended up only sounding arrogant. End result, the australian wine industry lost millions due to chinese tariffs.

Australia is taking back the strategic port of Darwin from CCP ownership that bought it with government approval several years ago in a gesture of comity with China. It's a stick in the eye to Xi's classically Chinese grandiose and failed Belt & Road scheme.

Canberra kicked out Chinese investors in the country's electrical power grid and nullified the purchase of cattle farms from the Chinese Party-state corporations that had bought into 'em. Chinese if you don't know can't produce enough food for themselves so they have to import it. Oz screwed 'em good on this one too.

Australian AF recon aircraft patrol over the South China Sea despite the arrogance of Beijing saying flat out a couple of years ago that, "It would be a shame if an Australian plane suddenly fell out of the sky."

Canberra signed on with the UK and US for eight nuclear powered submarines that give its Navy greater range for longer undersea missions in a decision that infuriated the arrogant and helpless weaklings in Beijing who blow harder than they act.

Australia shifted its huge commodity energy exports to India so now arrogant China is suffering blackouts and rolling power outages both industrial and residential.

Indeed, the arrogant CCP DictatorTyrants in their Beijing arrogance have found out you don't **** with Australians which infuriates 'em because China is BIG and Australia is small. It makes Chinese hopping mad because it's just the law of Nature that the BIG guy is supposed to push around the little guy if you don't know how Chinese think for 5000 years. To the Chinese Darwin was a babe in diapers. So now it's time for you to learn the reality the arrogant Chinese have had slammed in their arrogant face by Australia. I worked with Australians for six years at a school in Bangkok -- a bunch of 'em who ran the place on the foreign side -- and and I saw the main thing you don't want to do with Australians is to piss 'em off. Because a hundred Chinamen ain't worth one Australian.

 

[mike2810]

A. Why is Pelosi going to Taiwan at this time?

B. Who asked her to go?

A. Found why she is going with a simple search. Didn't OANN or Newsmax cover the story?
"Pelosi said in a statement she is leading a congressional delegation to Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan to discuss trade, the COVID-19 pandemic, climate change, security and "democratic governance.""


As far as the timing of the trip. When do you believe she should make the trip?

B. Congress does not need permission to make trips like this.

 

[Tangmo]

Now she pretty much HAS to go.

Pelosi was always going to Taiwan.

It's just that as she said, she herself doesn't discuss travel plans because there is always a risk to it. And given Xi's always belligerent and bellicose mindset and pronouncements, this is risky. It might be risky to US military flights or forces in the area after she leaves Taiwan but we can be confident our forces can deal with any such possibility.

During Tiananmen in 1989 she went and addressed the democracy protesters who welcomed her roundly. Pelosi who's visited Ukraine at war too is a moth to a flame when it comes to democracy abroad in strategic situations.

 

[Luce]

Pelosi was always going to Taiwan.

It's just that as she said, she herself doesn't discuss travel plans because there is always a risk to it. And given Xi's always belligerent and bellicose mindset and pronouncements, this is risky. It might be risky to US military flights or forces in the area after she leaves Taiwan but we can be confident our forces can deal with any such possibility.

During Tiananmen in 1989 she went and addressed the democracy protesters who welcomed her roundly. Pelosi who's visited Ukraine at war too is a moth to a flame when it comes to democracy abroad in strategic situations.

Xi will just have to get over it.

 

[VySky]

It's not uncommon for a Speaker to visit U.S. key partners in the Indo-Pacific. Her visit isn't anything new. As a matter of fact, a bipartisan group of members of Congress just visited Taiwan in April of this year. Bob Menendez, Lindsey Graham, Richard Burr, Ben Sasse, Rob Portman and Ronny Jackson spent two days in Taiwan this past April.

China has a hard time figuring out our government structure. China may be confusing Pelosi's visit with an official administration visit, since she and Biden are both Democrats. But this is not an official administration visit. Congress and the Presidency are two separate branches of government. Speakers of the House have visited Taiwan in the past without all this grumbling from China. **** China, let them do all the saber-rattling they want to do. Nancy Pelosi has every right to take that trip if she chooses to.

Thanks. But you failed to address A and B.

 

[VySky]

A. Found why she is going with a simple search. Didn't OANN or Newsmax cover the story?
"Pelosi said in a statement she is leading a congressional delegation to Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan to discuss trade, the COVID-19 pandemic, climate change, security and "democratic governance.""


As far as the timing of the trip. When do you believe she should make the trip?

B. Congress does not need permission to make trips like this.

Where is Taiwan?

 

[VySky]

A. Found why she is going with a simple search. Didn't OANN or Newsmax cover the story?
"Pelosi said in a statement she is leading a congressional delegation to Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan to discuss trade, the COVID-19 pandemic, climate change, security and "democratic governance.""


As far as the timing of the trip. When do you believe she should make the trip?

B. Congress does not need permission to make trips like this.

So she decided on her own despite President Biden saying it’s not a good idea.

 

[mike2810]

Where is Taiwan?

right next to Troll.

 

[mike2810]

So she decided on her own despite President Biden saying it’s not a good idea.

You would have to ask her.

Were you in on all the Biden / Pelosi conversations?

 

[American]

A. Why is Pelosi going to Taiwan at this time?

B. Who asked her to go?

Biden trying to show Taiwan we're all one big happy family?

 

[American]

You would have to ask her.

Were you in on all the Biden / Pelosi conversations?

Yeah

Biden: *mumble* c'mon, man

Pelosi: What, Mr. President?

Biden: China is our friend, and Taiwan is our *mumble*

Pelosi: Yes, Mr President, very astute!