They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
I hope they do. Not because I give a **** about this stupid wall, but because I'm tried of hearing about it.
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
Yes, it would change. Our government was formulated specifically so that one man would not, could not, become a despotic dictator. Right now the senate is abdicating their responsibility to be a co-equal branch. The Dems in the House are the only thing standing between the president and total dictatorial rule.
If they cave, it means that from now on, all any president has to do to get their way on any legislation is simply shutdown the government until the opposition goes away. The Founding Fathers never intended the president to have this kind of power. That is why the House holds the purse strings.
While you may very well agree with Trump and his policies, do you really want to set a precedent for future presidents?
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
I hope they do. Not because I give a **** about this stupid wall, but because I'm tried of hearing about it.
My opinion would change if Dems stepped up to a microphone and were honest about why they now do not support a "wall". I mean, unvarnished and brutally honest.
"Yes, we voted repeatedly to fund the "wall" (fence), and yes, we repeatedly were in lock step with what Trump is saying now about needing border security to control illegal immigration. However, we hate Donald Trump with the heat of 1000 suns and are doing everything in our power to destroy him and any chance he has of winning in 2020, so we can get a Democrat back in the White House. Of course we realize we look like feckless hyper-partisans who have no cogent reason to reject a position we took for many, many years, but we don't value any of you enough to tell you that the only reason we've done a 180 is for political expediency. We know the wall isn't immoral. That's a bunch of baloney! But we care more about getting Trump out of office than we do your safety, your country and your tax dollars to make you Priority #1"
Oh, yes my opinion would change!
Would you say the same if demorats did the same for granting amnesty (or a "path to citizenship") to illegal immigrants - do as we demand or we will not fund (parts of) the federal government? The precedent that such actions would establish are frightening.
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
I answered the OP's question.
Yes you did and I pointed out the likely consequences of getting tired of opposing a given policy demand and simply accepting it as the better (less tiring?) course of action.
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
They stepped up to the microphone and announced for the benefit of the country we have decided to give the president his five billion for the wall?
Yes, it would change. Our government was formulated specifically so that one man would not, could not, become a despotic dictator. Right now the senate is abdicating their responsibility to be a co-equal branch. The Dems in the House are the only thing standing between the president and total dictatorial rule.
If they cave, it means that from now on, all any president has to do to get their way on any legislation is simply shutdown the government until the opposition goes away. The Founding Fathers never intended the president to have this kind of power. That is why the House holds the purse strings.
While you may very well agree with Trump and his policies, do you really want to set a precedent for future presidents?
My opinion would change if Dems stepped up to a microphone and were honest about why they now do not support a "wall". I mean, unvarnished and brutally honest.
"Yes, we voted repeatedly to fund the "wall" (fence), and yes, we repeatedly were in lock step with what Trump is saying now about needing border security to control illegal immigration. However, we hate Donald Trump with the heat of 1000 suns and are doing everything in our power to destroy him and any chance he has of winning in 2020, so we can get a Democrat back in the White House. Of course we realize we look like feckless hyper-partisans who have no cogent reason to reject a position we took for many, many years, but we don't value any of you enough to tell you that the only reason we've done a 180 is for political expediency. We know the wall isn't immoral. That's a bunch of baloney! But we care more about getting Trump out of office than we do your safety, your country and your tax dollars to make you Priority #1"
Oh, yes my opinion would change!
Thank you. But again, I answered the OP"s question. I'm not talking about a slippery slope or what may happen, but I'm sure others would love to.
That "slippery slope or what may happen" is quite obvious - give the party with majority control of either the Senate or House and the POTUS whatever they want or the federal government will no longer be funded. In this case, it's "only" $5B of additional borrowing to pretend to keep a campaign promise - but I am looking ahead to much more costly (and radical?) campaign promises being kept by employing this (extortion?) "fund X or else" technique.
Exactly. When Obama builds a wall it is fine, when Trump does it, it is because he is a racist, bigoted, dictator.
Nope, I would still insist that demorats, like republicants, are still determined to continue to allow US "job creators" to employ many millions of illegal immigrants and are unwilling to remove 12M (to 20M) illegal immigrants from the US interior.
It should be obvious to all that the primary motivation for illegal immigration is that US wages are many times that of wages in their homelands. It would be illogical for someone not to seek a US job (especially in a sanctuary state/city) which paid as much for one day of work as a similar job paid for one week of work in their homeland. Once we add UHC and "free" college to the benefits of US residency that draw will increase significantly.