Would You Tolerate Nuclear Power For Energy Independence?

Nilly said:

You get more radiation exposure from eating one banana than you do from living by a nuclear reactor for a year.

EDIT: And regarding accidents, the average dose for someone living within 10 miles of Three Mile Island when the accident happened is about the same dose as you get from living in a brick/concrete house for a year.

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It's not the radiation from daily operations I am concerned about...it's the chance of an accident (as remote as it maybe).

Like I said, renting would be no big deal, but I would not own a house.

You don't agree...fine.


Good day.

Pinkie said:

I don't think it's one or the other. I'd love to see wind, solar, geo-thermal, etc. take off.

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Unfortunately, Wind and Solar were pushed not on the basis of being a viable alternative to alternative fuels, or on the basis of being practical in any sense.

Instead of being market driven they were pushed under a ideological pretense. THE Politicized narrative of AGW told us we had to invest mass amounts of money into sub-standard, wasteful and inefficient technologies, or else.

Germany dove head first into Alternative energy to the point of absurdity. They shut down their nuke plants, and invested massive amounts of money into becoming the first Country that was 100 % powered through " renewable energies ".

They invested untold amounts of money into building great Wind farms and Solar Power plants that were heralded as unprecedented technological accomplishments. Those responsible for Germany's green energy revolution should be held criminally accountable for their malfeasance.

The Politicians in Germany, misguided by a ideological construct committed the Citizens of Germany to this " green revolution " nightmare, and now German citizens pay 300 % MORE for their electricity than the average American does.

The only way Solar and Wind can be " viable ", the only way they can compete with fossil fuel technology, or nuclear technology is if they're heavily subsidized by the Tax payer.

German citizens are currently paying 20 Billion dollars for electricity with a 3 Billion dollar market price. Germany now burns MORE Coal than they did before they shut down their Nuke plants due to the inherent lags of power that come with wind and solar and they're currently building MORE Coal fired plants.

Their air is dirtier than it was prior to shutting down their nuke plants.

Germany has huge wind-farms off the coast that are not tied into main power grid because they simply cannot afford to complete the installation and they CANT tax the already over burdened German citizen anymore.

Even the German Government has finally acknowledged that their " Green revolution " was a total failure.

Germany's Green Energy Disaster: A Cautionary Tale For World Leaders - Forbes


GERMANY: Renewable Energy Policy “Complete Failure”… Bring On The Dirty Coal Monsters : SRSrocco Report

" In a stunning admission, the German Government recently announced that its transition to Renewable Energy was, “On the Verge of Failure.” This blunt statement was released by Germany’s Economic Minister and Vice Chancellor to Angela Merkel, Sigmar Gabriel at an event at SMA Solar… Germany’s leading manufacturer of Solar technology. "

ihallhou said:

The problem with electric vehicles, as I think many people fail to realize, is that the largest source of electricity generation in this country is coal, which is in fact dirtier than oil. I misspoke when I said it's impossible to become energy independent. If we invest in renewable energy, solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, etc, I do think it's possible. But merely switching to electric vehicles would in fact make air less clean unless we can change the sources of our energy to these cleaner, continually available sources. Thanks for the correction.

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No, we don't need to ' invest " more in alternative energies.

GERMANY: Renewable Energy Policy “Complete Failure”… Bring On The Dirty Coal Monsters : SRSrocco Report

OscarB63 said:

yeah, but was it nuclear?

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I think you are splitting hairs-I mean atoms-over that!

ihallhou said:

The problem with electric vehicles, as I think many people fail to realize, is that the largest source of electricity generation in this country is coal, which is in fact dirtier than oil. I misspoke when I said it's impossible to become energy independent. If we invest in renewable energy, solar, wind, hydro, geothermal, etc, I do think it's possible. But merely switching to electric vehicles would in fact make air less clean unless we can change the sources of our energy to these cleaner, continually available sources. Thanks for the correction.

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While coal power plants are indeed the dirtiest form of electrical generation, they are still cleaner than millions of individual cars burning gasoline.

In any given year, there is more environmental damage due to the mining and burning of coal for power generation than there has been from the entire history of nuclear power. Even if we could burn coal without any emissions at all, we still would be blowing mountains up to get it. The worst environmental disasters in American history have been due to coal mining.

What the hell is with all the poll thread necros recently? this is like the third I've encountered and I don't even check that often.

That said, and probably repeating myself from 2 goddamn years ago....

Yes.