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Sure. If we liberals can’t have things our way then burn it all down!!! Just the idea that people other than us have rights is intolerable and needs to be stopped immediately!!!!Most Americans support some form of gun reform, including 53% of R's. It's pretty clear that congress isn't responding to their constituents. Would you be willing to join a national strike, all over the country to bring the facts to the attention of those congress critters who don't seem to care, as long as they're getting the NRA money.
In the Fox News poll, 87% of respondents said they favor requiring criminal background checks on everyone who wants to purchase a gun and 80% said they want mental health checks on gun buyers nationwide. Eighty percent said they want police to be able to take guns away from those who are considered a danger to themselves or others, a regulation known as red-flag laws.
A vast majority of those polled, 81%, said they wanted the age to legally buy a gun in the US to be raised from 18 to 21 years old.
Seventy-seven percent said they favor enforcing a 30-day waiting period for all gun purchases. On Thursday, the parents of the 25-year-old who opened fire at an Old National Bank in Louisville said a waiting period would have been helpful in stopping their son who was able to purchase a gun in just 40 minutes days before the incident.
When looking at those polled generally, 45% said they think more citizens should carry guns to protect themselves, but 52% opposed that idea. Broken down by political party, a small 27% of Democrats polled said people should carry guns with them, compared to 61% of Republicans.
Similarly, 84% of Democrats favored banning assault weapons versus 36% of Republicans.
A Fox News poll found that 61% of Americans support a ban on assault weapons
Fifty-one percent of registered voters polled are extremely concerned they or a loved one will be a victim of gun violence, the Fox News poll found.www.insider.com
Pretty funny
It’s hypocritical of you to belch about my beliefs in democracy when in fact it’s the gunidiots who need a lesson in “majority rules”.
Most Americans support some form of gun reform, including 53% of R's. It's pretty clear that congress isn't responding to their constituents. Would you be willing to join a national strike, all over the country to bring the facts to the attention of those congress critters who don't seem to care, as long as they're getting the NRA money.
In the Fox News poll, 87% of respondents said they favor requiring criminal background checks on everyone who wants to purchase a gun and 80% said they want mental health checks on gun buyers nationwide. Eighty percent said they want police to be able to take guns away from those who are considered a danger to themselves or others, a regulation known as red-flag laws.
A vast majority of those polled, 81%, said they wanted the age to legally buy a gun in the US to be raised from 18 to 21 years old.
Seventy-seven percent said they favor enforcing a 30-day waiting period for all gun purchases. On Thursday, the parents of the 25-year-old who opened fire at an Old National Bank in Louisville said a waiting period would have been helpful in stopping their son who was able to purchase a gun in just 40 minutes days before the incident.
When looking at those polled generally, 45% said they think more citizens should carry guns to protect themselves, but 52% opposed that idea. Broken down by political party, a small 27% of Democrats polled said people should carry guns with them, compared to 61% of Republicans.
Similarly, 84% of Democrats favored banning assault weapons versus 36% of Republicans.
A Fox News poll found that 61% of Americans support a ban on assault weapons
Fifty-one percent of registered voters polled are extremely concerned they or a loved one will be a victim of gun violence, the Fox News poll found.www.insider.com
If the majority of the House of Representatives and a majority of the Senate votes to pass a bill it passes, barring a filibuster. I hope that spells it out for you.I stopped reading here, because this statement is so shockingly stupid. Our democracy isn't "majority rules." Not even close. It's a constitutional representative democracy, in which voters necessarily have to prioritize what matters to them, where the govenrment has limited, defined powers, and where we absolutely DON'T have mob rule because we have a Bill of Rights.
If the majority of the House of Representatives and a majority of the Senate votes to pass a bill it passes, barring a filibuster. I hope that spells it out for you.
That does not change the fact that a majority of Americans want STRICTER gun controls. I am sure you will agree with that FACT.
When someone denies facts that is proof enough that they live in a fantasy world. Since normal people like me live in the REAL world there is no point in discussing issues with such folks.Yes, that's what I've been saying all this time, except you missed the part about the Constitution.
I don't agree with that fact, because there's no reliable evidence for it. And I also don't care about that fact. What matters is whether they want it enough to vote based on that want, which they obviously did not do.
When someone denies facts that is proof enough that they live in a fantasy world. Since normal people like me live in the REAL world there is no point in discussing issues with such folks.
Bye
Prisons are in prison for killing someone while drunk. look it up.Oh please. If you really cared about victims, you'd never stop talking about the need for stricter traffic laws. If you think it's a "warped attitude" not to want to throw a person in prison for 3+ years for owning an 11-round pistol magazine, or putting a pistol grip on a rifle, while at the same time you aren't actively promoting the same penalty for drunk and reckless drivers, you're a massive hypocrite. Full stop.
Sorry to hear that you don't think democracy matters.
Prisons are in prison for killing someone while drunk. look it up.
Fine, I don't expect Americans to all hit the street. I do know that there are many people who are behind the concept of stricter gun laws (not an overturning of the 2nd) & they are frustrated with congress's inablity to pass them. A strike aimed at those congress critters might stir them to action, or enough of them anyway.I don't support strikes as a tactic, and I can't afford to take time off work, and I don't support your cause, so no.
The 2nd doesn't preclude any of the proposals.Congress can't do anything, short of a constitutional amendment. The 2nd precludes any of the restrictions you propose above. But you don't even need congress to call for an article 5 convention.
So you really didn't mean drunks killing people while drunk drive didn't go to prison. My bad, that's how I read your post.People who murder people with guns are in prison for that too. Look it up.
So I guess we're good?
So you really didn't mean drunks killing people while drunk drive didn't go to prison. My bad, that's how I read your post.
So you really didn't mean drunks killing people while drunk drive didn't go to prison. My bad, that's how I read your post.
It precludes all of them.The 2nd doesn't preclude any of the proposals.
Sure there are Americans for stricter gun control. A strike isn't going to help their cause, tho. Pro-gun is in the majority and we're not likely to give up the second most important right we have.Fine, I don't expect Americans to all hit the street. I do know that there are many people who are behind the concept of stricter gun laws (not an overturning of the 2nd) & they are frustrated with congress's inablity to pass them. A strike aimed at those congress critters might stir them to action, or enough of them anyway.
You. Do know you are the only one who has said that. That is not one of the sensible laws mentioned in the OP.No, I meant people who drive drunk and get caught generally don't go to prison, and the idea of making that the law seems anathema to Democrats (even though they absolutely seem to think it's okay to put someone in prison several years for attaching an adjustable shoulder stock to a semautomatic rifle).
You. Do know you are the only one who has said that. That is not one of the sensible laws mentioned in the OP.
Whit the way you make shit up, it’s like you’re hearing voices. I’m not comfortable with you having a deadly weapon, or even a car for that matter, your flag is
bright red IMO.
Fine, I don't expect Americans to all hit the street. I do know that there are many people who are behind the concept of stricter gun laws (not an overturning of the 2nd) & they are frustrated with congress's inablity to pass them. A strike aimed at those congress critters might stir them to action, or enough of them anyway.
I actualy have a functional definition of 'assault weapon' for the left, but it's based on characteristics of the machine just like every other definition of every other type of firearm and so can't apply to all the guns the left would want it to.Your OP mentioned banning assault weapons. You aren't aware that the difference between an assault weapon and a non-assault weapon can be the presence of an adjustable shoulder stock?
High velocity, rapid fire with large capacity magazines. The unhunting weapon. You know the ones that make a certain segment of gun owners cream their designer jeans.Your OP mentioned banning assault weapons. You aren't aware that the difference between an assault weapon and a non-assault weapon can be the presence of an adjustable shoulder stock?
High velocity, rapid fire with large capacity magazines. The unhunting weapon. You know the ones that make a certain segment of gun owners cream their designer jeans.
Wait until the law is written & passed to say what will be in it.Don't forget the adjustable stock, because that can be enough to move a gun from one category to another.
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