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Would you like it if your ideological opponents "died out"?[W:28]

Would you like it if your ideological opponents "died out"?

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I've seen this a few times, someone claiming something to the effect of "I can't wait for people of a whatever lean to die out". I'm not so much asking if you're wishing death on others, I'll assume nobody wishes for that, but more do you see the death of certain folks as being somewhat positive if it means the ending or disappearance of ideologies or beliefs you view as at odds with yours?

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No. Otherwise, I wouldn't have anyone to challenge my beliefs. I don't want to live in a giant echo chamber.

If I did, I wouldn't be here on DP.
 
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I do not wish for anyone to die, nor do I take pleasure in the death of anyone.
 
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Redress said:
I do not wish for anyone to die, nor do I take pleasure in the death of anyone.
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I believe that about you (no sarcasm). I'm not sure I could honestly say the same. To be clear, I sure don't wish the death of anyone just for disagreeing with me politically, but yes, from Bin Laden to the guy who murdered those Dallas cops, I'm glad they're gone.
 
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no. i'd be happier to see the duopoly forced to compete, or eliminated entirely in favor of individual candidates running on their own ideas.
 
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Who the hell voted yes?
 
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TheGoverness said:
Who the hell voted yes?
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Click on the "1" for that vote and you'll see. My polls are always public.
 
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X Factor said:
Click on the "1" for that vote and you'll see. My polls are always public.
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Thanks. Never knew I could do that before.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Who the hell voted yes?
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me halfheartedly. I don't wish them to actually die. But if a lot of that ideology (and it's pretty specific) died out I wouldn't complain.
 
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Nah.
There wouldn't be anyone left to mock.
 
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X Factor said:
I've seen this a few times, someone claiming something to the effect of "I can't wait for people of a whatever lean to die out". I'm not so much asking if you're wishing death on others, I'll assume nobody wishes for that, but more do you see the death of certain folks as being somewhat positive if it means the ending or disappearance of ideologies or beliefs you view as at odds with yours?

Poll forthcoming
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I have a problem with idideologies,not necessarily with people who subscribe to ideologies.
Though to be honest,I consider ideologues people who define themselves by their beliefs instead of their achievements.
I love my enemies.
They keep me on my toes and makes me a better person.
The culinary industry is just one big episode of "Cut Throat Kitchen".
 
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I am happy that the younger generations seem less bigoted and I am happy that much of the bigotry will die out with the older generations. I think it will be a good thing when that kind of ideology is gone.

If we are talking about people who disagree with me on economic policy and foreign affairs, then no. I don't want them to die off. Vigorous debate in those areas is a good thing.
 
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X Factor said:
I've seen this a few times, someone claiming something to the effect of "I can't wait for people of a whatever lean to die out". I'm not so much asking if you're wishing death on others, I'll assume nobody wishes for that, but more do you see the death of certain folks as being somewhat positive if it means the ending or disappearance of ideologies or beliefs you view as at odds with yours?

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When you see that the one saying it is claiming that they and their ideas are the more advanced, progressive, and they are also saying that they are not interested in going to the work to try to challenge those they take to be regressive in the combat of ideas....they have decided to wait them out, wait for them to die. Of course I take a dim view of this on multiple levels. Without fail those who are sure that they are the bestest humans to ever walk the Earth are far from it.
 
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X Factor said:
I've seen this a few times, someone claiming something to the effect of "I can't wait for people of a whatever lean to die out". I'm not so much asking if you're wishing death on others, I'll assume nobody wishes for that, but more do you see the death of certain folks as being somewhat positive if it means the ending or disappearance of ideologies or beliefs you view as at odds with yours?

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I believe I've said more than a few times that I would actually LOVE to be able to follow the example of our colonial forebearers, load up a big honking sleeper space ship full of people with worldviews similar to my own, and set course for the nearest star likely to have inhabitable planets around it to start over from scratch.

Why? Because I, quite frankly, think our present society is a giant unworkable mess, headed straight for a catastrophic collapse of some sort or another, which is only going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I really want nothing to do with it (or, rather, certain elements of it responsible for furthering that state of affairs) as such.

It's not quite the same thing as wishing for one's opponents to "die off," I suppose. However, it is somewhat similar to what you describe.

I absolutely believe a world without "SJWs," militant-atheists, hard-line feminists, modern race-baiters, hippies, sex-social libertines or any of the other various staples of the radical ideological Left's intellectual cancer would be a "better" place than what we have now.
 
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A few I wish would either change position or die off (naturally)...

Anti-Semites... Neo-Nazis... Racists....
 
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Considering my ideological opponents are either extremists or completely ignorant........yes. Absolutely, yes.
 
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Verthaine said:
I have a problem with idideologies,not necessarily with people who subscribe to ideologies.
Though to be honest,I consider ideologues people who define themselves by their beliefs instead of their achievements.
I love my enemies.
They keep me on my toes and makes me a better person.
The culinary industry is just one big episode of "Cut Throat Kitchen".
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I love my enemies too. However, I can love them just as easily if they've moved on to the after-life. I don't have an issue with ideologies.....just with extremism and those who'd punish people who don't subscribe to their ideologies.
 
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X Factor said:
I've seen this a few times, someone claiming something to the effect of "I can't wait for people of a whatever lean to die out". I'm not so much asking if you're wishing death on others, I'll assume nobody wishes for that, but more do you see the death of certain folks as being somewhat positive if it means the ending or disappearance of ideologies or beliefs you view as at odds with yours?

Poll forthcoming
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The idea that the country will improve if but a certain age demographic would just...die out...is simply inaccurate. The generations that represent the ideology I loathe most are in no greater danger of dying out than I am.
 
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Gathomas88 said:
I believe I've said more than a few times that I would actually LOVE to be able to follow the example of our colonial forebearers, load up a big honking sleeper space ship full of people with worldviews similar to my own, and set course for the nearest star likely to have inhabitable planets around it to start over from scratch.

Why? Because I, quite frankly, think our present society is a giant unworkable mess, headed straight for a catastrophic collapse of some sort or another, which is only going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I really want nothing to do with it (or, rather, certain elements of it responsible for furthering that state of affairs) as such.

It's not quite the same thing as wishing for one's opponents to "die off," I suppose. However, it is somewhat similar to what you describe.

I absolutely believe a world without "SJWs," militant-atheists, hard-line feminists, modern race-baiters, hippies, sex-social libertines or any of the other various staples of the radical ideological Left's intellectual cancer would be a "better" place than what we have now.
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I don't think you're fully appreciating the humor value of SJWs.
 
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I want everyone to die out.
 
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X Factor said:
I've seen this a few times, someone claiming something to the effect of "I can't wait for people of a whatever lean to die out". I'm not so much asking if you're wishing death on others, I'll assume nobody wishes for that, but more do you see the death of certain folks as being somewhat positive if it means the ending or disappearance of ideologies or beliefs you view as at odds with yours?

Poll forthcoming
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I voted no, but I suspect that is what eventually happens based on subject to some degree. I would offer that it does not really matter if we are talking about evolution in terms of economics, or social understandings, or whatever other ideology. As we advance and come to new understandings there will usually be someone that does not agree and holds onto an ideology that eventually becomes outdated. At that point it is only a matter of time before the last one passes on without any real passing down of that ideology to future generations. Some are more of a challenge than others, the timelines are no where near the same. But it eventually happens else we would still have people running around wanting things and concepts and social understandings that existed during the Roman Empire. It is painfully difficult to ideologically go to any fixed point and stay there, no matter what percentage try.

I do not want people to "die out" that hold onto some ideology, but it happens anyway. Not really anyone's fault either.
 
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I don't wish for anyone to stop voicing their opinion, to go away or die. What I wish for is for everyone to listen, to hear, to get along despite their differences.
 
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I don't understand. If they simply **changed their mind** or we reached a more tenable middle ground, there is nothing to gain from their literal deaths.

Or if you're talking about some monsters like the Phelps clan, change their **behavior** does the trick

But even where their mind can't be changed (and probably owing to that), more realistically, no ideology will ever die off entirely. Celebrating the demise of hated opponents, even a Hitler, under the hope the body count alone will weaken their deranged ideology can only empower their memory. You render an ideology impotent by proving its worthlessness to everyone else
 
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X Factor said:
I don't think you're fully appreciating the humor value of SJWs.
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Humor value? We're well beyond that.

These people are freaking dangerous. They're basically intellectual and social fascists, who simultaneously combine the very worst elements of elitist (i.e. snobbish self-righteous attitudes, appeals to intellectual authority, casual dismissal of opposing view points) and populist (ignorance of actual facts and history, extreme reactionary tendencies, the 'mob mentality,' an unmistakable inclination towards destructive violence targeted against people they happen to disagree with, and etca) political movements.

We should, quite frankly, be terrified that their ideas have gained the amount of mainstream traction that they enjoy currently.
 
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I would make a exception for Hillary.
 
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