- Sep 22, 2005
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Jerry said:Wicca? No. I have my opinions of Wicca, being a former practitioner, but choosing Wicca wouldn't disable I.T.T.'s "I wouldn't hate them for it" default position.
I would say....Satanism, where animal torture and abuse, rape, child abuse and Thaumaturgy are common practice; I would hate my child for choosing.
I take issue with cannibalism, but I know of nothing in Catholicism which involves eating people.MrFungus420 said:What about the ritual cannibalism in Catholicism, would you have a problem with that?
If so, then that would be another example of those who oppose religion per-se taking simbology literally.ngdawg said:Maybe he meant communion...wine is the blood, wafer is the body...
Jerry said:If so, then that would be another example of those who oppose religion per-se taking simbology literally.
No actual blood was ever drunk.
No actual flesh was ever eaten.
Communion is symbolic of, basically, accepting the Christ inside you, of accepting Christ as your savior, of becoming one with Christ, of giving freely.
Not even the last supper itself had cannibalism.
....which doesn't actually happen. Never did. Pump the stomach of a parishioner after communion and you will find a wafer, not a lump of flesh. You will find traces of wine, not blood.DeeJayH said:actually that is not totally accurate, according to my upbringing in the Roman Catholic church
when the preist goes thru the blessings, the host (wafer) and wine that is recieved are turned into the Body and the Blood of Christ, Literally
CoffeeSaint said:Not going to have any kids, so "no opinion." But if I did have kids, I couldn't force my beliefs on them; I don't have any. I am perfectly content to let the mysteries of the universe remain mysteries, until I find answers for them, but those answers for them give me knowledge, not belief. And I'd do the same for my kids: I wouldn't teach them anything: I'd have them read, and decide for themselves. If they wanted to go ask a priest/rabbi/theologian for more information, I'd take them.
I think it would be interesting, though, to find out if reading the Bible, without any particular sermonizing from a Christian, would convince someone that Christianity, or Judaism, is truthful. Ditto the Koran and Islam.
Dude, stop being a retard. Obviously a person can be offended even though someone didn't intend to offend them. It seems as though you're the one being childish, by doing your name calling. "Oh, look at me, I'm Bodisatva, I'm so cool because I call people a Jack-***"
DeeJayH said:and yet kids need structure and guidance and values instilled in them
religion is not the exclusive source of this, but it is a good tool
My ex chose not to raise my son religiously
and at times, i do have concerns because of it
but he is in no way a bad person because we did not thump him in the head with a bible every night or every sunday
talloulou said:Religion, in the right hands, can provide a great foundatiohn for a child the same way church can provide a great community. However if one works at it you can provide the moral foundation without the religion. And lack of religion isn't necessarily the same as lack of spirituality. I choose not to indoctrinate my children into a religion. However we do discussions about a variety of religions and they understand that I know more about christianity than I do about other religions though I expose them to as much as they have interest in. I just don't claim to have any "answers" for certain and that doesn't seem to bother them. And for what it's worth while I'm not certain Jesus ever really existed I think I teach my children the core values that he supposedly taught and while I don't promise them heaven or threaten them with hell I am 100% convinced that knowing that we should behave in certain ways because we know right from wrong seems to be working so far.
DeeJayH said:i thoguth there was a ton of historical documentation, beyond just teh bible that proved Jesus existed
it was just whether we was a man, a prophet, or the Son of God
My understanding is that there are only two or threeDeeJayH said:of the top of my head, i believe the crucifixion was documented
Seculer Humansim is a religion, according to SCOTUS.128shot said:I'd teach my kids secular humanism personally.
I wouldn't and couldn't teach my kids about religion. Thats their choice in the end.
Lachean said:How so? Oh and also the SCOTUS dont decide what is, only what is law.
dthmstr254 said:Secular humanism is a religion. Instead of worshipping God, men worship themselves. Ain't no change in the fact of worship, just a change in the target.
CoffeeSaint said:Really depends how you define worship, doesn't it?
A quick refrence:Lachean said:How so? Oh and also the SCOTUS dont decide what is, only what is law.
Source... has proved their religious beliefs false. Second, it violates the Establishment Clause. The United States Supreme Court has held that secular humanism is a religion. Id., at E-36 (Sen. Keith) (referring to Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U.S. 488, 495 , n. 11 (1961)); 1 App. E-418 (Sen. Keith); 2 id., ...