Would you clone yourself? (1 Viewer)

[americanwoman]

Going along the lines of eating cloned meat, I am just curious to ask-

Would you clone yourself? Why or why not?

Easy way to get out of chores or an annoying other self to sleep with your spouse when you go to let the dog out?

 

[talloulou]

Going along the lines of eating cloned meat, I am just curious to ask-

Would you clone yourself? Why or why not?

Easy way to get out of chores or an annoying other self to sleep with your spouse when you go to let the dog out?

Nah I wouldn't clone myself. But if I did I'd view the "clone" more like a twin. An individual with rights vs. "my other self." There would be no reason to expect my clone to be a slave to me and in fact if I were to have any respect for myself at all I'd expect my clone to be completely outraged by the very idea that it owed or was beholden to me in anyway..:mrgreen:

 

[Hatuey]

I'd have a clone of myself in the closet for those times my wife want's to get into fights over the most random things with me.

Just sneak out the back door and wait for the clone to call me when the fight is over.

 

[dragonslayer]

If they discovered away to lock out cancer, diabetes, Bush, unwanted aging, poverty, and all other disease, I would get cloned tomorrow.

I want to be assured in the process that I could get 4 more degrees and write at least 10 more books.

then I would be glad to be cloned, without doing away with the bad stuff and enhancing the good stuff, there is no point in cloning myself.

What the heck is the difference between eating meat that came from a cloned animal or an animal that is reproduced normally? It is all protein.:smile: :spin: :2wave:

 

[talloulou]

You morons do all realize that your clone would not be your age. And even if we cloned babies and kept the clone and the "original so to speak" the same age they have would individual wills.

There is no guarantee that were you to come to a battle of wills with your clone that you would win.

If were gonna have the conversation than we should at least attempt to bring it above a romper room level.

 

[1069]

YES, I would. Somebody has to go first.
But I wouldn't want custody of the clone.

 

[WI Crippler]

I wouldn't clone myself, but I would clone my wife so we could have threesomes, and she couldn't get mad at me for suggesting it, because I'd still be having sex with her...kinda. Ah what the hell am I saying, she'd still get mad, actually both of them would, I know her. Nevermind. :doh

 

[talloulou]

What the heck is the difference between eating meat that came from a cloned animal or an animal that is reproduced normally? It is all protein.:smile: :spin: :2wave:

Well we could eat protein from dead humans but there's good arguments for not doing so.

Personally my only problems stem from the fact that most cloning attempts fail and those that succeed tend to have other health issues. My only other consideration would involve diversity in that diverse ecosystems are healthier and I'm not sure if there would be any implications in losing the diversity in meat or not.

 

[liberateamerica]

I would not because you never know if it might go masquerading around as me and do things that I wouldn't normally do. Besides, it just isn't natural to perform human cloning unless you keep the clone secured away somewhere until you die and then let it go into the world.

 

[talloulou]

I would not because you never know if it might go masquerading around as me and do things that I wouldn't normally do. Besides, it just isn't natural to perform human cloning unless you keep the clone secured away somewhere until you die and then let it go into the world.

OMG that's outrageous.

 

[tecoyah]

Environment has been proven (identical twins seperated from birth) to have a heavy impact on a person...thus the likelyhood of a true clone in the hollywood sense is pretty much Nil. I would do it....and hope I lived long enough to be impressed...with myself.

 

[DeeJayH]

how babout the fact you could go around commiting murder and never be convicted because of your clone being reasonable doubt?

 

[Kandahar]

how babout the fact you could go around commiting murder and never be convicted because of your clone being reasonable doubt?

That's no different than having an identical twin, but I don't think it's a big problem for the legal system as it stands.

 

[rathi]

Twin= clone. Identical twins are not the same people. The real question is, would you want a kid with the exact same genes as you? Once and for all, Hollywood is entertainment not reality.

 

[Hatuey]

I think cloning in great. There would be no waiting lists for heart transplants. You could keep a clone of you frozen somewhere and then when you need a lung/heart/pancreas transplant you just take em outa the freezer and chuck out their hearts.

 

[talloulou]

I think cloning in great. There would be no waiting lists for heart transplants. You could keep a clone of you frozen somewhere and then when you need a lung/heart/pancreas transplant you just take em outa the freezer and chuck out their hearts.

Why would clones not be people with individual inherent rights of personhood?

 

[Hatuey]

Why would clones not be people with individual inherent rights of personhood?

Because we're playing God with nature and there isn't much room for rights or individuality when you're god.

 

[talloulou]

Because we're playing God with nature and there isn't much room for rights or individuality when you're god.

What a bunch of horseshite that is. We play "god" if you will all the time. Test tube babies aren't viewed as non-persons.

 

[Hatuey]

What a bunch of horseshite that is. We play "god" if you will all the time. Test tube babies aren't viewed as non-persons.

You're sounding like a hypocrite right now. During the creation of test tube babies thousands of embryos who under natural conditions would have grown up to be normal human beings and not clones are destroyed in the name of research and you're pissed off because I might want to clone myself because I need a new heart and I dont feel like being on a waiting list for 3-5 years? Are you seriously going to debate giving a clone of yourself(who serves no purpose) more rights then you do to an unborn human being?

 

[talloulou]

You're sounding like a hypocrite right now. During the creation of test tube babies thousands of embryos who under natural conditions would have grown up to be normal human beings and not clones are destroyed in the name of research and you're pissed off because I might want to clone myself because I need a new heart and I dont feel like being on a waiting list for 3-5 years?

Actually I don't support embryonic stem cell research or abortion so no I'm not a hypocrite.

Are you seriously going to debate giving a clone of yourself(who serves no purpose) more rights then you do to an unborn human being?

A born clone? Absolutely. I don't feel they could possibly be viewed as anything other than another person. And what the hell do you mean by "serves no purpose"?

 

[Kandahar]

I think cloning in great. There would be no waiting lists for heart transplants. You could keep a clone of you frozen somewhere and then when you need a lung/heart/pancreas transplant you just take em outa the freezer and chuck out their hearts.

Or...

You could just clone your lung/heart/pancreas.

 

[Hatuey]

A born clone? Absolutely. I don't feel they could possibly be viewed as anything other than another person. And what the hell do you mean by "serves no purpose"?

Other then to replace a failing organ in your own body what purpose would the body of a clone serve? What situation are you in that you need a clone?

A wow effect doesn't count.

You could just clone your lung/heart/pancreas.

People would still oppose this. Just look at stem cell research.

 

[Kandahar]

Other then to replace a failing organ in your own body what purpose would the body of a clone serve?

A wow effect doesn't count.

Other than to replace a failing organ of compatible donors, what purpose does YOUR body serve?

 

[talloulou]

Other then to replace a failing organ in your own body what purpose would the body of a clone serve?

A wow effect doesn't count.

A live clone would be a live person. They don't have to serve any purpose. I don't see how they'd "owe" you any of their body parts whether you needed them or not.

 

[Hatuey]

Other than to replace a failing organ of compatible donors, what purpose does YOUR body serve?

Am I a clone? Can you guarantee that any of my body parts will be 100% compatible with that of your own? I bet I can guarantee that the organs of a clone will be 100% compatible with my own.

A live clone would be a live person.

Yes a live person born in a test tube.

They don't have to serve any purpose. I don't see how they'd "owe" you any of their body parts whether you needed them or not.

At what point do they stop being my property? Before or after I donate my cells so that they can be created?