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That is an unfair blanket statement about as diverse group of people. It sounds as stupid as people saying "the left."
Its an entirely accurate comparison.
Property rights are not sufficient justification to use racism to violate the liberty of an individual.
Oh, yes. If you own a restaurant and refuse to serve blacks (sell them cheeseburgers), you're violating their right not to be discriminated upon based on the color of their skin. You can piss and moan about it all you'd like, but I'm glad there are more "me's" in the world than "you's."
Edit: Or do you believe, as some few do, that "all men are created equal" as long as they're white?
Weird thats not what you described at all, guess thats what happens when one tries to paint a dishonest made up picture.So I can fire anybody I want for any reason I feel like? That doesn't bother you?
Weird thats not what you described at all, guess thats what happens when one tries to paint a dishonest made up picture.
of course not for any reason because your rights end at violating others, and thats the way it should be and im glad it is.
Oh, yes. If you own a restaurant and refuse to serve blacks (sell them cheeseburgers), you're violating their right not to be discriminated upon based on the color of their skin. You can piss and moan about it all you'd like, but I'm glad there are more "me's" in the world than "you's."
Edit: Or do you believe, as some few do, that "all men are created equal" as long as they're white?
And yet time after time some hardcore right wingers flings out blanket statements in which you offer no reproach... please come back down off your high horse for a bit.
Oh, yes. If you own a restaurant and refuse to serve blacks (sell them cheeseburgers), you're violating their right not to be discriminated upon based on the color of their skin.
Edit: Or do you believe, as some few do, that "all men are created equal" as long as they're white?
I get that government intrusion because the restaurant selling the burgers is a public place.What I don't get is the intrusion you mention on private property sales. Don't get me wrong, I don't like it one bit that folks will refuse others solely based upon the color of their skin or whom they're married with. But I also don't like government intrusion on private property.
Yes, it is. Just because someone is black doesn't mean I can't tell them no if they desire to use my property.
You are sort of right but sort of wrong. If you are offering your property for rent, it would be illegal to refuse to rent to them because they are black; or if you were a place of public accommodation (restaurants, hotels, etc) you cannot refuse them business legally because they are black, but if you want to refuse to allow any black people to step onto your property otherwise outside a work/business setting, you are generally ok if you for instance, did not allow blacks onto the property where your home is or your other property. You'd be an ass, but it is situational.
So this right to not be discriminated against you admit is a positive right? Do you realize that makes it violation of rights to begin with? Nothing like a bit of coercion in our right declarations.
So you do believe we have the right to compel others to sell us a cheeseburger. Sorry, but no such right exists.
Absolutely ridiculous behavior on your part. Shame on you.
Can someone offer some legal definitions for Affirmative Action and Equal Opportunity? I think many people have different views of what they mean and we end up debating each other based on incorrect notions. To be honest, I don't know the real definitions myself.
I for one don't think a less qualified minority should be hired and/or promoted by force of law over a more qualified people of the majority. I also question it when very large employers have nearly all of their key people made up almost exclusively of non-minorities and just males. At the same time I also realize there are various forms of favoritism in various work places where decision makers voluntarily hire, promote and give raises to the less qualified person. Sometimes less qualified friends are hired and promoted over more qualified applicants who might be of a different race. Sometimes less qualified female employees who are in office romances with decision makers are hired, promoted and given raises over the more qualified person who might be a minority male. What then is the recourse and should there be other than if you don't like it, find another job?
Sorry, but The Civil Rights Act says it's against the law. If my opinion, that of SCOTUS, and the majority of people in this country is ridiculous? I'll gladly take that label. Bigotry and racism comes in many forms. Yours is but one.
I get that government intrusion because the restaurant selling the burgers is a public place. What I don't get is the intrusion you mention on private property sales. Don't get me wrong, I don't like it one bit that folks will refuse others solely based upon the color of their skin or whom they're married with. But I also don't like government intrusion on private property.
If you've got a bit of land you should be able to sell it to who you wish, and that includes not selling it to someone for whatever your reason. The government doesn't constitutionally and shouldn't, have that reach.
So I'm a bigot because I recognize that control of property is where the power of ownership lies? Interesting.
A business open to the public is still private property.
So I'm a bigot because I recognize that control of property is where the power of ownership lies? Interesting.
The business license issued buy the state is a contract. To maintain said license they must obey the laws as set down by the state including discrimination laws. If they don't like it, they can go someplace else to do business.
The contract trumps private property in this case.
Yes, because provisions in contracts can't violate rights. Try harder.
You are a bigot if you set a price on your property and then refuse to sell it at full price to someone because of their race.
Yes, because provisions in contracts can't violate rights. Try harder.
We are a better nation for The Civil Rights Act. It's a shame that people have to be forced to do the right thing. But such is life.
And that would correct. Your point is?
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