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Worst Person of All Time

Worst Person of All Time

  • Adolf Hitler

    Votes: 53 59.6%

  • Josef Stalin

    Votes: 17 19.1%

  • Saddam Hussein

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Kim Jong Il

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Osama Bin Laden

    Votes: 3 3.4%

  • Fidel Castro

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Hugo Chavez

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • John Garang

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Josef Mengele

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 13 14.6%
  • Total voters
    89
Bestial_Pagan said:
You are halfright, maybe I´m just being patriotic here...but Steelmans plans didn´t go right by the plan.
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Simo Hayha certainly gave em a warm welcome!
 
cnredd said:
Good points...If I may add...

This is the first war(I believe) where civilians were NOT the target. The USA has tried very hard to minimalize what is called "collateral damage".
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Well, at least the first war in modern warfare. For most of European history, wars were fought between professional armies on a battlefield situatuated away from population centers. This remained the norm until the 20th century.

Chinese history had some examples of horrific massacres of civilians in warfare, especially during the rise of the Qin and Yuan Dynasties. However, even in most of Chinese history, such massacres were the exception rather than the rule before the 20th century.
 
ludahai said:
Well, at least the first war in modern warfare. For most of European history, wars were fought between professional armies on a battlefield situatuated away from population centers. This remained the norm until the 20th century.

Chinese history had some examples of horrific massacres of civilians in warfare, especially during the rise of the Qin and Yuan Dynasties. However, even in most of Chinese history, such massacres were the exception rather than the rule before the 20th century.
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Thanks for the clarification, but the main point still stands...

The US isn't running roughshod through Iraq indescriminantly mowing people down, as the media and some on the left would have the general public believe. I always hear "X" civilians dead....They don't understand that it would probably be easier to make X= X + 50,000, but the US isn't taking a "scorched earth" policy.
 
cnredd said:
Thanks for the clarification, but the main point still stands...
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I wasn't trying to attack your main point, I agree with it. However, as a history teacher, I just wanted to make sure that there was a certain degree of historical accuracy injected into the discussion.
 
ludahai said:
I wasn't trying to attack your main point, I agree with it. However, as a history teacher, I just wanted to make sure that there was a certain degree of historical accuracy injected into the discussion.
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Historical accuracy?...In a debate forum?....are you MAD?????:rofl
 
ludahai said:
I suppose I have been called worse.. :cheers:
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Someone called you a socialist huh? I get that all the time here. Don't know where these people get this stuff...

Wait a minute...
 
superskippy said:
Got to agree with Androvski, hell I can forgive close to anything the Russians did to the Germans in WW2.
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I wonder if you could say the same if you were German.
 
how come u didin`t put he the name bush..by saying on his campaign that we should stop terrorism..but he is actually blind folded us by his act...pretending that by war we can stop terrorism..that is rubbish..so shame...we should think more open..isn`t it negotiation is one of the best way to solve any problem..if he do reely think about his people,he will always think about their safety,inneeds and others about his country..

people,think carefully from what i say...be more specific in what u do....
 
Gandhi>Bush said:
I wonder if you could say the same if you were German.
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What the Nazis did will remain an indelible stain on German history forever!
The majority of German people supported Hitler and paid the price for that support!
As I said two wrongs don't make a right,but I feel that the Soviet response to the German populace as the red army advanced through Germany,was understandable(though not excusable)given the circumstances.
Most present day Germans are among the most anti-nazi people in the world,so the answer to"could you say the same if you were German",is probably yes.
 
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sidex_7 said:
how come u didin`t put he the name bush..by saying on his campaign that we should stop terrorism..but he is actually blind folded us by his act...pretending that by war we can stop terrorism..that is rubbish..so shame...we should think more open..isn`t it negotiation is one of the best way to solve any problem..if he do reely think about his people,he will always think about their safety,inneeds and others about his country..

people,think carefully from what i say...be more specific in what u do....
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Welcome to Debate Politics.

So you think Bush might possibly be worse than Hitler or Stalin?
 
I wonder if you could say the same if you were German.


My family orginiated as German and Russian Jew's, I can forgive anything the Red Army did, the Germans butchered my family to the point where I'm one of the few left.
 
That is quite a tragedy, one I do not condone. It is my personal opinion though that enough people died; enough people were butchered.
 
Kelzie said:
Someone called you a socialist huh? I get that all the time here. Don't know where these people get this stuff...

Wait a minute...
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I like your sense of humor. We don't agree on a heck of a lot, but if you can laugh about it at the end of the day, all is well. Sadly, some people here have completely lost any sense of perspective.

;)
 
ludahai said:
I like your sense of humor. We don't agree on a heck of a lot, but if you can laugh about it at the end of the day, all is well. Sadly, some people here have completely lost any sense of perspective.

;)
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Very few people do agree with me. :lol: If I took it seriously, I would be very bitter. And I am waayy too young to be bitter. I've decided to wait until I'm 60ish.
 
sidex_7 said:
how come u didin`t put he the name bush..by saying on his campaign that we should stop terrorism..but he is actually blind folded us by his act...pretending that by war we can stop terrorism..that is rubbish..so shame...we should think more open..isn`t it negotiation is one of the best way to solve any problem..if he do reely think about his people,he will always think about their safety,inneeds and others about his country..

people,think carefully from what i say...be more specific in what u do....
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I am not a big fan of Bush AT ALL, but he's not Hitler. Even IF everything that the far left says about him is true, he still isn't the worst person of all time.
 
sidex_7 said:
how come u didin`t put he the name bush..by saying on his campaign that we should stop terrorism..but he is actually blind folded us by his act...pretending that by war we can stop terrorism..that is rubbish..so shame...we should think more open..isn`t it negotiation is one of the best way to solve any problem..if he do reely think about his people,he will always think about their safety,inneeds and others about his country..

people,think carefully from what i say...be more specific in what u do....
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What good did twelve years of UN negotiations do with Saddam Hussein?
 
What good did twelve years of UN negotiations do with Saddam Hussein?
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who cares, sadaam is bad and that is established. UN Resolutions have not accomplished a lot of things. But the US gave the public the impression that goin in Iraq was a direct war against terrorism. That i consider complete bullshit. You know if 911 didn't happen we probably wouldn't give a rats ass about whats goin on in Iraq...
Just like we won't give a **** about whats happening in South American dictatorships or African dictatorships until they attack us.

This however makes sense. Why should we care when these countries haven't provoked us. But then the question comes, did Iraq provoke us? Considering all the major terrorists are either from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Iran... I really don't know how they did.
The main reason for the governemnt to go to war here was economics, and the American people should understand that before sendin their children off to sacrifice their lives for this country. (as is the driving force in all wars).
 
The UN is worthless. I realy wish i didn't have to say that but it does nothing. They cant even shoot there guns! Its a very neccasarie idea but its being done wrong.
 
GarzaUK said:
For me and most of the British people it has to be the big H, Hitler.

He wiped out half of my city in continuous air raids. Plus the near extermination of a race in Europe. Plus we got to see what happens when right-wing nationalism goes wrong!
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Hitler was a left wing socialist GarzaUK.
 
Uhh, leftwing? He was the epitomy Fasicsm, which is the opposite of the left wing. Central Planning, Closed Society, Nationalized Market are not traits of the extreme left. No matter how much I disagree with the left.
 
GPS_Flex said:
Hitler was a left wing socialist GarzaUK.
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He's in a group all to himself...Equating him with anything is counter-productive...
 
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