Enlisted are the backbone of the armed forces and the officer corps are the brains of it. Morale and espirit de corps includes all members of the force, ie, junior EP, NCO, officers up and down the ranks.
The armed force as unitary and whole has always been the case anywhere and during all of history. It's never going to change. EP call officers 'sir' or 'madam' while officers refer to EP by rank and surname.
So it's a two sided coin yet many only speak of the EP backbone of it. EP have the enlisted oath and officers have the officer oath. Both are to the Constitution only. This constitutes a difference but not a divide. The force is unitary and it remains cohesive. Face it, accept it and get used to it before it begins to look like you came out of the force with less than you carried and brought going into it.
I wonder what year it happened when it became fashionable for military men to become involved in politics?
Wasn't there a time in the US when professional military men remained above the dirt by not voting?
Oh it sticks. You embrace war crimes and war criminals and you expect the rest of us to say well, it's trump's right to pardon them.
No. We have freedom of speech. Sorry, your president SUCKS.
Thanks for surrendering. It must have been so tiring all this time to bear the burden of so many lies.
of course it matters. they have a vote.
I haven't seen ANYONE "...embrace war crimes and war criminals", yet you mouth those words. I agree, he sucks as a person, not so bad as a leader, but he's SO much better that the alternative you offered.
I don't see anyone surrendering to your nonsense. I did see him determine that further discussion with you i was useless. Did you miss that?
Yes we do, and we cast them. So far, we vote overwhelmingly R.
Which then means that honor and integrity do not matter to a ton of military voters.
Quite ironic.
Uncalled for.
And one can vote Republican without liking Trump.
Come to think of it Trump won the independent vote as well.
uncalled for? what the heck?
if a person lives by a certain standard (like honor and integrity) but then turns around and votes for a politician that is the opposite of honor and integrity it means they don't care about honor nor integrity in politics.
are you trying to have it both ways or something?
The military I believe have demonstrated their honor and integrity with the path they have chosen.
You blanket condemnation was uncalled for.
i never once said that military members don't have honor and integrity in their jobs.
i said that if they believe in honor and integrity and then vote for the exact opposite then they do not care about honor nor integrity in politics.
do you think you guys get a pass on that or something? where is the integrity in that?
Worry rises in Pentagon over Trump'''s decision making - CNNPolitics
For his disparagement of ****-hole countries, he certainly aspires to their levels of corruption.
In a sense, it was only a matter of time.
If he gets a second term, don't be surprised if he implements personal loyalty oathes among "my warfighters".
Just that they have no honor and integrity....
"Which then means that honor and integrity do not matter to a ton of military voters."
Your opinion is noted with great disdain.
okay, let's take this a step at a time...
do you think honor and integrity is important in the military or in your job?
okay, let's take this a step at a time...
do you think honor and integrity is important in the military or in your job?
Haha, you don't think Fledermaus is going to answer that do you?
nope.
Your opinion has been noted.
When people's behavior is the exact opposite of what it should be, the last thing they want to do is look in the mirror.
so, you won't answer if you think that honor and integrity is important in the military (from new soldiers to commanders to brass).
that's interesting.
Military Times Poll: What you really think about Trump
So that was from 2017.
Let's look at July, 2019.
Strong support for Trump among veterans in new national poll
July 10
In a survey of nearly 1,300 veterans conducted in May and June, 57 percent of respondents said they approve of how Trump is leading the armed forces. In contrast, about 41 percent said they disapprove of how he has handled running the military.
As I said. Your opinion is noted.
Don't get carried away...lol
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