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World Baseball Classic: Go Cuba!

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"Baseball is not judged by the price of the athletes, but the heart of the people," ... Cuban outfielder Frederich Cepeda,
And the heart of the Cuban people will not be broken by decades of hostilities in the form of sanctions led by their northern neighbors and to be more precise, the Republican Party.

Indeed, the Cuban people are poor but after 50 years of isolation imposed by the great powers led by the United States they will not be denied victory over their oppressors even if it's just in the shape and structure of a simple baseball game.

And your victory will resonate and be more than just a won ballgame, it will be a victory over greed, over capitalism as was demonstrated by Team America's loss whom many could see that the American players hearts were not into the marvelous game of baseball

Victory is yours Cuba, take it and know that millions in the United States will be cheering you on. I know I will! :2wave:

Let us hope we will be celebrating VJ day tomorrow!






http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2006-03-19-wbc-final-preview_x.htm


Major leaguers have minor profile in WBC final

SAN DIEGO — Two powers of international baseball will meet in the World Baseball Classic finals at Petco Park on Monday night and the rosters will contain a grand total of two major-league players.

Japan's Ichiro Suzuki may be the only player major league baseball fans will recognize in Monday night's WBC title game.

Cuba and Japan advanced with victories in the semifinals Saturday, further demonstrating the game's talent level around the globe and denting the notion of Major League Baseball's vast superiority.

"I sense that MLB is hurting a little bit," Seattle Mariners outfielder Ichiro Suzuki, one of two major-league players on the Japan roster, said Sunday through a translator.

Japan, aided by a three-hit, two-stolen base performance from Suzuki and a scoreless inning of relief from Texas Rangers pitcher Akinori Otsuka, defeated a Korean team that had beaten it twice in the preliminary rounds 6-0.

But the major surprise of the semifinals — and the tournament — is a Cuban team thought to be decimated by political defections and retirement of players who helped it establish 20 years of dominance in international competition.
 
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There are a lot of people in the US rooting for the Cuban team.

I do wish the US and Cuba could open up some type of recognition of each other, not so much for the governments, but for the people.

I remember when I was a kid listening to the grown-ups talking about how much they enjoyed their vacations to Cuba. Maybe one day. :smile:
 

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kid said:
And the heart of the Cuban people will not be broken by decades of hostilities in the form of sanctions led by their northern neighbors and to be more precise, the Republican Party.
kid,

You're still flunking...

February 7, 1962: President Kennedy broadens the partial trade restrictions imposed by Eisenhower to a ban on all trade with Cuba, except for non-subsidized sale of foods and medicines.

March 23, 1962: President Kennedy expands the Cuban embargo to include imports of all goods made from or containing Cuban materials, even if made in other countries.

August 1, 1962: The Foreign Assistance Act is amended to prohibit aid to "any country" that provides assistance to Cuba.

October 2, 1962: The U.S. government cables all Latin American governments and NATO countries new measures to tighten the economic embargo against Cuba. As of today, the transport of U.S. good is banned on ships owned by companies that do business with Cuba.

February 8, 1963: The Kennedy administration prohibits travel to Cuba and makes financial and commercial transactions with Cuba illegal for U.S. citizens.

May 14, 1963: The U.S. Department of Commerce announces the requirement of specific approval for exports of all food and medicine to Cuba.

November 17, 1963: President Kennedy asks French journalist Jean Daniel to tell Castro that he is now ready to negotiate normal relations and drop the embargo. According to former Press Secretary Pierre Salinger, "If Kennedy had lived I am confident that he would have negotiated that agreement and dropped the embargo because he was upset with the way the Soviet Union was playing a strong role in Cuba and Latin America…"

December, 1963: The Foreign Assistance Act is amended to prohibit U.S. aid to countries that continue to trade with Cuba.

December 12, 1963: Less than one month after President John F. Kennedy's assassination, U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy seeks to end the travel ban to Cuba in a memo to Secretary of State Dean Rusk. He refers to the ban as "inconsistent with traditional American liberties," and difficult to enforce. The memo is not released to the public until June 29 2005.

December 13, 1963: Robert F. Kennedy's memo of December 12 is discussed at a State Department meeting (to which RFK is not invited) and Undersecretary of State George Ball rules out the possibility of ending the travel ban to Cuba. [The ban continues until 1977 when the Carter Administration opens travel to Cuba by U.S. citizens. The Reagan Administration reinstitutes the ban in 1981.]

July 26, 1964: The Organization of American States (OAS) adopts mandatory sanctions against Cuba, requiring all members to sever diplomatic and trade relations. Only Mexico refuses to comply.

July1996: "Clinton imposes anti-Cuba sanctions"...CNN

July 2000: "US Votes to Ease Cuba Sanctions"

"The US House of Representatives has voted in favour of easing sanctions against Cuba, in place since 1962, but a broader amendment that could have resulted in an end to the trade embargo was rejected. The House, with a Republican majority, voted 301 to 116 in favour of an amendment that would exempt food and medicine from the US unilateral trade embargo on Cuba."
[...]
"Thursday's vote represents a significant shift in relations between the neighbouring countries, recently embroiled in a custody battle over six-year-old Cuban national Elian Gonzalez. The amendments represent the first time in three years that sanctions on Cuba have been voted on by the US Congress."


Source.
 

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oldreliable67 said:
kid,

You're still flunking...

February 7, 1962: President Kennedy broadens the partial trade restrictions imposed by Eisenhower to a ban on all trade with Cuba, except for non-subsidized sale of foods and medicines.

March 23, 1962: President Kennedy expands the Cuban embargo to include imports of all goods made from or containing Cuban materials, even if made in other countries.

August 1, 1962: The Foreign Assistance Act is amended to prohibit aid to "any country" that provides assistance to Cuba.

October 2, 1962: The U.S. government cables all Latin American governments and NATO countries new measures to tighten the economic embargo against Cuba. As of today, the transport of U.S. good is banned on ships owned by companies that do business with Cuba.

February 8, 1963: The Kennedy administration prohibits travel to Cuba and makes financial and commercial transactions with Cuba illegal for U.S. citizens.

May 14, 1963: The U.S. Department of Commerce announces the requirement of specific approval for exports of all food and medicine to Cuba.

November 17, 1963: President Kennedy asks French journalist Jean Daniel to tell Castro that he is now ready to negotiate normal relations and drop the embargo. According to former Press Secretary Pierre Salinger, "If Kennedy had lived I am confident that he would have negotiated that agreement and dropped the embargo because he was upset with the way the Soviet Union was playing a strong role in Cuba and Latin America…"

December, 1963: The Foreign Assistance Act is amended to prohibit U.S. aid to countries that continue to trade with Cuba.

December 12, 1963: Less than one month after President John F. Kennedy's assassination, U.S. Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy seeks to end the travel ban to Cuba in a memo to Secretary of State Dean Rusk. He refers to the ban as "inconsistent with traditional American liberties," and difficult to enforce. The memo is not released to the public until June 29 2005.

December 13, 1963: Robert F. Kennedy's memo of December 12 is discussed at a State Department meeting (to which RFK is not invited) and Undersecretary of State George Ball rules out the possibility of ending the travel ban to Cuba. [The ban continues until 1977 when the Carter Administration opens travel to Cuba by U.S. citizens. The Reagan Administration reinstitutes the ban in 1981.]

July 26, 1964: The Organization of American States (OAS) adopts mandatory sanctions against Cuba, requiring all members to sever diplomatic and trade relations. Only Mexico refuses to comply.

July1996: "Clinton imposes anti-Cuba sanctions"...CNN

July 2000: "US Votes to Ease Cuba Sanctions"

"The US House of Representatives has voted in favour of easing sanctions against Cuba, in place since 1962, but a broader amendment that could have resulted in an end to the trade embargo was rejected. The House, with a Republican majority, voted 301 to 116 in favour of an amendment that would exempt food and medicine from the US unilateral trade embargo on Cuba."
[...]
"Thursday's vote represents a significant shift in relations between the neighbouring countries, recently embroiled in a custody battle over six-year-old Cuban national Elian Gonzalez. The amendments represent the first time in three years that sanctions on Cuba have been voted on by the US Congress."


Source.
Zing.......:3oops:

Anyhow, it's ridiculous to try and turn this in to a political issue, I'm much more concerned with the sorry showing of major league players. Maybe we should replace their lazy, over paid, ungrateful butts with these hungry, talented ball players!
 

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US Votes to Ease Cuba Sanctions
Financial Times
July 21 2000

The US House of Representatives has voted in favour of easing sanctions against Cuba, in place since 1962, but a broader amendment that could have resulted in an end to the trade embargo was rejected. The House, with a Republican majority, voted 301 to 116 in favour of an amendment that would exempt food and medicine from the US unilateral trade embargo on Cuba.

Another amendment that would ease restrictions preventing US citizens from travelling to the Caribbean island was approved 232 to 186. However, a proposal backed by Charles Rangel, the New York Democratic representative, that moved toward lifting the trade embargo, was rejected 241 to 176.

Nonetheless, Thursday's vote represents a significant shift in relations between the neighbouring countries, recently embroiled in a custody battle over six-year-old Cuban national Elian Gonzalez. The amendments represent the first time in three years that sanctions on Cuba have been voted on by the US Congress.

The sanctions, which began three years after Cuba's revolution, were intended to weaken the power held by Fidel Castro, the communist leader. But critics have argued that the embargo has hit Cuba's sick and poor the hardest. Farm and business groups have also been pushing for an end to the embargo that put the neighbouring market off-limits.

In contrast, Cuban American congressman, who oppose General Castro and support the existing sanctions, believe easing the restrictions would reward Cuba's leader, while the extra trade and tourism would provide him with the money he needs to stay in power.

The House's Republican leaders also favoured maintaining the sanctions. Tom Delay of Texas, the Republican whip, called the Castro administration an "evil empire", adding the embargo should not be lifted. "We should screw it down tighter," he said.

Any easing of the sanctions will not take place immediately, as the amendments passed on Thursday must still go through the Senate, and the House can as yet modify its proposals.

The amendments, which effectively block funding to the US Treasury for the enforcement of the existing restrictions, won support moments before the House voted 216 to 202 in favour of a bill granting the Treasury and general government operations $29bn in funding.
 

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http://www.cubamania.com/cuba/printthread.php?t=14286

Economic Embargo Timeline 1960-2005

1960

March 17. President Eisenhower approves a covert action plan against Cuba that includes the use of a "powerful propaganda campaign" designed to overthrow Castro. The plan includes: a) the termination of sugar purchases b) the end of oil deliveries c) continuation of the arms embargo in effect since mid-1958 d) the organization of a paramilitary force of Cuban exiles to invade the island.

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Do you know anything about Cuba, or our long history, or do you just plan to copy and paste articles the rest of your life? I suggest doing some research, and educated yourself to the many reasons why we have not done business with Castro and his regime. After he is gone, I hope we can begin to do business again, but you won't find many willing to do business with Castro, Republican, or Democrat, it's hardly a partisan issue, it's personal.


Here, go to this link, learn how we freed them from the Spanish, only to have Castro take the country, and install a Communist rule. Then learn how he helped the Russians to place nukes aimed at our country, just miles away from our shores. Learn how he jailed innocent dissenters, or stole money from his citizens, or many, many other terrible things that you and Mr. Kennedy would like to now forget.:roll:

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/cu.html
 

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KidRocks said:
And the heart of the Cuban people will not be broken by decades of hostilities in the form of sanctions led by their northern neighbors and to be more precise, the Republican Party.

Indeed, the Cuban people are poor but after 50 years of isolation imposed by the great powers led by the United States they will not be denied victory over their oppressors even if it's just in the shape and structure of a simple baseball game.

And your victory will resonate and be more than just a won ballgame, it will be a victory over greed, over capitalism as was demonstrated by Team America's loss whom many could see that the American players hearts were not into the marvelous game of baseball

Victory is yours Cuba, take it and know that millions in the United States will be cheering you on. I know I will! :2wave:

Let us hope we will be celebrating VJ day tomorrow!






http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2006-03-19-wbc-final-preview_x.htm


Major leaguers have minor profile in WBC final

SAN DIEGO — Two powers of international baseball will meet in the World Baseball Classic finals at Petco Park on Monday night and the rosters will contain a grand total of two major-league players.

Japan's Ichiro Suzuki may be the only player major league baseball fans will recognize in Monday night's WBC title game.

Cuba and Japan advanced with victories in the semifinals Saturday, further demonstrating the game's talent level around the globe and denting the notion of Major League Baseball's vast superiority.

"I sense that MLB is hurting a little bit," Seattle Mariners outfielder Ichiro Suzuki, one of two major-league players on the Japan roster, said Sunday through a translator.

Japan, aided by a three-hit, two-stolen base performance from Suzuki and a scoreless inning of relief from Texas Rangers pitcher Akinori Otsuka, defeated a Korean team that had beaten it twice in the preliminary rounds 6-0.

But the major surprise of the semifinals — and the tournament — is a Cuban team thought to be decimated by political defections and retirement of players who helped it establish 20 years of dominance in international competition.

Defend Saddam, defend Castro, but call Bush a monster for wanting to listen to international phone calls from terrorists...you are a liberal. :roll:


BTW about your signature, do you really expect people to forget that Clinton let us be repeatedly attacked by Al Queda for eight years? It's easy to have peace when you are appeasing N.Korea, emboldening Al Queda, and putting off all the problems onto the next president.

It doesn't surprise me that you would so grossly distort things to protect such an impotent coward.
 

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Comon now.. he's as predictable as the tides.... Who did n't see this coming ....:rofl

What a shame ............ They failed to win.. least there hearts and whatever won't be broken. The japanese however seem to be pretty damm happy about it...
 

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FinnMacCool said:
Am I a traitor if I support Cuba?
I wouldnt think it makes you a traitor... I think it makes you a liberal...LOL But there are exceptions to every rule .. I would fully expect you to support Cuba anyway
 
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