Women should have abortions if they want. Here's why:

Gordy327 · Dec 6, 2023

From the Article:

While every person has unique reasons for seeking an abortion, researchers have found that those who've had the procedure report a number of common factors that influenced their decision. Chief among them: financial concerns.
Other top issues that influence this choice are related to not being prepared to be a parent and the relationship with one's partner.

Reasons for Abortions	%
Not financially prepared	40%
Not a good time	36%
Issues with partner	31%
Need to focus on other children	29%
Interferes with future plans	20%
Not emotionally or mentally prepared	19%
Health issue	12%
Unable to provide a “good” life	12%
Not independent or mature enough	7%
Influence from family or friends	5%
Don’t want children	3%

These findings are the result of a five-year survey of people who have had at least one abortion and were asked to give reasons they chose to terminate their pregnancy.
It's important to remember, however, that a wide range of factors affect the decision to have an abortion. These include very personal issues that cannot easily be understood by others or grouped into general categories.
This article looks at common reasons for abortions and important related considerations.

Gordy327 · Dec 6, 2023

The reasons are discussed in more detail in the article. But they are all good reasons why women might choose to have an abortion and why they should if they want. There's certainly no rational or legal reason to deny them that choice or restrict abortion.

americanwoman · Dec 6, 2023

It's just crazy how "not financially prepared" is the number one reason and most likely the same person who wants to force that person to have a baby is the same person who will bitch about that baby getting SNAP, WIC, medicaid, Section 8, TANF, Child Care Subsidy Program, etc..... because once the baby is born, **** it.

CaughtInThe · Dec 6, 2023

just have us men stop having sex with women.

easy peasy.

AGENT J · Dec 6, 2023

Gordy327 said:
Women should have abortions if they want. Here's why:

of course they should because they have rights and freedoms, arent second class citzens and should not be treated as a lesser
i dont need any list of reasons

its no coincidence tha t the vast majority of first world countries with governments based on individual rights and freedoms have laws that are prochoice
and typical the places that do not, are dictatorships, communists and or theorcaricies etc and do not have governments based on individual rights and freedom

the RvW limits were just fine and they will be back eventually

Atreus21 · Dec 6, 2023

If the unborn aren't human beings, kill them at your leisure. If they are, then nothing in the OPs list justifies killing them.

americanwoman · Dec 6, 2023

Atreus21 said:
If the unborn aren't human beings, kill them at your leisure. If they are, then nothing in the OPs list justifies killing them.

Just remember you want them to live and you are going to end up paying for their survival - one way or another. If that's the way you want it, so be it.

You can say to cut off all the social programs but I am pretty sure when that little unwanted kid who never had enough in life turns to crime, you will be one to say "lock them up" and still end up paying for them.

Nomad4Ever · Dec 6, 2023

americanwoman said:
It's just crazy

It isn't crazy. It's just evil. It isn't some paradox or contradiction in their own internal logic. Most people that advocate for cutting programs like food stamps and for stricter abortion laws know exactly what outcomes they are creating. Reasoning varies between conservative political groups but by far the most common reason is they believe people should be punished for having sex outside of marriage. They want the social consequences for sex outside of marriage to be as high as possible.

Gordy327 · Dec 6, 2023

Atreus21 said:
If the unborn aren't human beings, kill them at your leisure.

Thanks for your approval. They are also not persons.

Atreus21 said:
If they are, then nothing in the OPs list justifies killing them.

Says who? The provided reasons perfectly justify it, not that justification is required if a woman wants an abortion.

Gordy327 · Dec 6, 2023

AGENT J said:
of course they should because they have rights and freedoms, arent second class citzens and should not be treated as a lesser
i dont need any list of reasons

its no coincidence tha t the vast majority of first world countries with governments based on individual rights and freedoms have laws that are prochoice
and typical the places that do not, are dictatorships, communists and or theorcaricies etc and do not have governments based on individual rights and freedom

the RvW limits were just fine and they will be back eventually

I tend to agree.

Gordy327 · Dec 6, 2023

Nomad4Ever said:
Most people that advocate for cutting programs like food stamps and for stricter abortion laws know exactly what outcomes they are creating.

Sometimes I wonder. They seem quite tunnel visioned on abortion and see nothing outside of abortion itself, never mind the reasons or circumstances women are or may find themselves in as a result. Basically, they don't care about anything except stopping abortion.

Nomad4Ever said:
Reasoning varies between conservative political groups but by far the most common reason is they believe people should be punished for having sex outside of marriage.

No, I would say they think women should be punished.

Nomad4Ever said:
They want the social consequences for sex outside of marriage to be as high as possible.

Especially for the woman.

hecatmoggie · Dec 6, 2023

all of those reasons could apply after birth too - why stop at birth ?

tshade · Dec 6, 2023

Gordy327 said:
From the Article:

While every person has unique reasons for seeking an abortion, researchers have found that those who've had the procedure report a number of common factors that influenced their decision. Chief among them: financial concerns.
Other top issues that influence this choice are related to not being prepared to be a parent and the relationship with one's partner.

Reasons for Abortions %
Not financially prepared 40%
Not a good time 36%
Issues with partner 31%
Need to focus on other children 29%
Interferes with future plans 20%
Not emotionally or mentally prepared 19%
Health issue 12%
Unable to provide a “good” life 12%
Not independent or mature enough 7%
Influence from family or friends 5%
Don’t want children 3%

These findings are the result of a five-year survey of people who have had at least one abortion and were asked to give reasons they chose to terminate their pregnancy.
It's important to remember, however, that a wide range of factors affect the decision to have an abortion. These include very personal issues that cannot easily be understood by others or grouped into general categories.
This article looks at common reasons for abortions and important related considerations.

This is a good list. Thank you.

This list helps us to reach ways to prevent abortion by eliminating the things that CAUSE women to choose it.

However---All of these excuses , except health, are VERY poor reasons IMO to kill an unborn........

BirdinHand · Dec 6, 2023

stealthycat said:
all of those reasons could apply after birth too - why stop at birth ?

Well…because the topic is abortion.

Abortion is a medical procedure that ends a pregnancy.

There is no “after birth” as a part of that topic because then you are no longer dealing with a pregnancy.

Do try to keep up.

HIP56948 · Dec 6, 2023

americanwoman said:
Just remember you want them to live and you are going to end up paying for their survival - one way or another. If that's the way you want it, so be it.

You can say to cut off all the social programs but I am pretty sure when that little unwanted kid who never had enough in life turns to crime, you will be one to say "lock them up" and still end up paying for them.

Oh Yeah. Your words are Gold. Preach it sister!

Gordy327 · Dec 6, 2023

tshade said:
This is a good list. Thank you.

This list helps us to reach ways to prevent abortion by eliminating the things that CAUSE women to choose it.

Restricting abortion or preventing women from obtaining abortion only exacerbates those problems. It seems many do not seem to understand that.

tshade said:
However---All of these excuses , except health, are VERY poor reasons IMO to kill an unborn........

Irrelevant. They are valid reasons and good enough for the woman selecting it. Her reason/s are the only ones that matter.

Gordy327 · Dec 6, 2023

stealthycat said:
all of those reasons could apply after birth too - why stop at birth ?

Because it's about abortion. Once birth occurs, abortion becomes a moot point. But the woman faces the ramifications of dealing with child rearing, especially if she is not ready.

AGENT J · Dec 6, 2023

Atreus21 said:
If the unborn aren't human beings, kill them at your leisure. If they are, then nothing in the OPs list justifies killing them.

unless you value the rights and freedoms of the woman
the one that has that life "inside" of her, then its 100% justified

otherwise you see the woman as a lesser
which i do not

hecatmoggie · Dec 6, 2023

BirdinHand said:
Well…because the topic is abortion.

Abortion is a medical procedure that ends a pregnancy.

There is no “after birth” as a part of that topic because then you are no longer dealing with a pregnancy.

Do try to keep up.

the reason's listed apply to born or not born

seem's logical a woman should have the right to get out of having to care for a child at any point for all the reasons listed - right ?

hecatmoggie · Dec 6, 2023

Gordy327 said:
Because it's about abortion. Once birth occurs, abortion becomes a moot point. But the woman faces the ramifications of dealing with child rearing, especially if she is not ready.

all the reasons you listed still remains though

abortion is killing the life that a woman doesn't want to deal with - why stop at birth ?

like you said, the ramifications are there - why not allow the woman to choose death for the born too ?

if its a horrible thing to do after birth ... its also a horrible thing to do BEFORE birth is the point and ya'll see it

AGENT J · Dec 6, 2023

stealthycat said:
all of those reasons could apply after birth too - why stop at birth ?

basic common sense and how rights, freedoms and laws work LMAO

Atreus21 · Dec 6, 2023

americanwoman said:
Just remember you want them to live and you are going to end up paying for their survival - one way or another. If that's the way you want it, so be it.

You don't want it that way? You'd prefer death to expense?

americanwoman said:
You can say to cut off all the social programs but I am pretty sure when that little unwanted kid who never had enough in life turns to crime, you will be one to say "lock them up" and still end up paying for them.

I'll pay it. Better alive than dead. Yours is a ghastly argument.

Atreus21 · Dec 6, 2023

Gordy327 said:
Thanks for your approval. They are also not persons.

Same old arguments. Neither were black people once.

Gordy327 said:
Says who? The provided reasons perfectly justify it, not that justification is required if a woman wants an abortion.

Well, says everyone except for Nazis, slavers, and those who advocate for abortion.

Atreus21 · Dec 6, 2023

AGENT J said:
unless you value the rights and freedoms of the woman
the one that has that life "inside" of her, then its 100% justified.

Look I mean if you're going to admit that it's okay to deliberately kill innocent human beings then fine. I have no way of convincing you otherwise. My argument is a non sequitur if we can't at least agree that murder is wrong.

AGENT J · Dec 6, 2023

Atreus21 said:
Same old arguments. Neither were black people once.

Well, says everyone except for Nazis, slavers, and those who advocate for abortion.

gits so cringe everytime somebody tries to compare this to slavery, good god its avile comparason
first off treating the woman as a lesser and forcing her to risk hewr life and health against her will is more like slavery than abortion and second the reality is they are nothing alike

its beyond stupid and offense to me as a minority to claim otherwise
abortion is about two lives and one resides inside another

again theres a reason the vast majority of first world countries with governments based on individual rights and freedoms have laws that are prochoice
and typical the places that do not, are dictatorships, communists and or theorcaricies etc and do not have governments based on individual rights and freedom

its because the foprmer does not see the wqoman as a lesser

Women should have abortions if they want. Here's why:

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