Women of DP - I ask you

[TheGirlNextDoor]

If you haul off and hit a person (female OR male) do you expect to be hit back?

If you push and shove a person, do you expect to be pushed and/or shoved back?

These ^ are extreme cases, but I want to know AS A WOMAN, if you take part is what I'd call 'risky aggressive behavior' do you expect to be met with the same... or do you believe your gender excuses you from consequences?

 

[RosieS]

Neither. I don't think a female should escape consequences, but since it isn't possible for women to have the upper body strength that men have, men should not shove, push or hit back because the chances of causing injury to the woman are so much higher. And no, a man is not a wimp for not hitting a woman who has hit him, he's a man who chooses brain over brawn. It really is one of those lifestyle choices.

And if she rightly gets arrested for assault, she'll have earned those consequences.

Regards from Rosie

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

I find it funny that there are a handful of people who are women here, yet we already have a vote of 7 'gender' excuses.

 

[liblady]

I find it funny that there are a handful of people who are women here, yet we already have a vote of 7 'gender' excuses.

should have made it public......

 

[rathi]

Not a woman, but I personally believe in the concept of proportionate response. If someone gets physical with me, my reaction depends on the threat the person represents. Strength, training, presence of weapon and aggressiveness are all important factors. I see no moral difference between a man or a woman of equal danger to me.

 

[Gipper]

The results of the poll do not shock me. I've always said that if you step up like a man and throw a punch like a man, you should take a punch like a man.

Those 7 people that TGND referenced to in the poll as to why any concept of "gender equality" is bull. People who vote yes are the true proponents of equality.

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

I voted yes and I'm having a hard time believing that other women here are the ones voting "no". I'm sure some are.. but 7? Gimme a break. :?

If I ball up my fist and dot some guys eye, I fully do that with the thought that he may very well ball up his fist and lay me out. Sorry, but that's how it goes.

 

[Coronado]

Just interjecting -- the rule is that a man should never strike a lady. Not all women are ladies. Men should assume that a woman is a lady, but if she shows that she is not, all bets are off.

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

Yeah, I'm not talking about a guy walking up to a woman and beating the holy hell out of her.. I'm talking about a woman who starts an aggressive action against a male (OR female, for that matter).

A friend of mine (male) had his girlfriend beat the living tar out of him and he didn't raise a finger.. I don't think I'd make a very good man, because I would have laid her out. :? :shrug:

 

[Tucker Case]

...but since it isn't possible for women to have the upper body strength that men have...

I'll let my friend who is a female professional boxer, heavyweight, know that it's not possible for her to be able to kick a man's ass. :lol:

 

[Coronado]

I suspect Gina Carano could kick about anyone's ass here on DP.

 

[Tucker Case]

As far as how I would react to being hit by a woman, it really depends on the woman. If it were the friend I mentioned above, I'm going to hit her back because if not, she'd beat the living **** out of me.

In most cases, I would try to defend myself using the least amount of force necessary. I wouldn't simply sit back and get pounded on, though.

 

[StandUpChuck]

Neither. I don't think a female should escape consequences, but since it isn't possible for women to have the upper body strength that men have, men should not shove, push or hit back because the chances of causing injury to the woman are so much higher. And no, a man is not a wimp for not hitting a woman who has hit him, he's a man who chooses brain over brawn. It really is one of those lifestyle choices.

And if she rightly gets arrested for assault, she'll have earned those consequences.

Regards from Rosie

I think you're wrong. I don't lift heavy, but I have plenty of muscles. Plus I know how to throw everything I've got into a punch. I'm not an aggressive person, but I'm fairly sure if presented with a dangerous situation, I could flatten a quarter of the guys here. If any one of them tried to harm my kid, I think that number could rise to 100%.

Addressing the poll, were I to shove or strike another person, I would expect to be in a position to defend myself, because I don't think anyone would just take that. If they did, I'd just hit 'em again. :giggling:

 

[Black Dog]

Only two things could make me hurt or punch a woman. If she kicks me in the kahona's, or comes at me with a weapon or clenched fist.

I don't really give anyone reason to assult me, so I don't expect to be hit. If they do I will defend myself.

 

[Gipper]

If I ball up my fist and dot some guys eye, I fully do that with the thought that he may very well ball up his fist and lay me out. Sorry, but that's how it goes.

And if he doesn't, I would hope you give him a good ass-whipping. Cro-magnate sexism like that deserves it. Assuming that perceived frailty and smaller stature means weakness in the case of a woman is probably more chauvanistic than retaliating against an aggressive woman.

 

[Josie]

Gender excuses nothing. If I smack a man in the face, I'm not going to cry assault when he smacks me back.

 

[theangryamerican]

I've only been in a situation like this once. I had a crazy gf when I was younger that hit me with a closed fist in a verbal argument. I laughed in her face and with my voice dead calm told her "That one was free. I dare you to do it again." I think I got the point across adequately enough, she backed down and I walked away from the relationship without assault charges.

That said, I wouldn't hit anyone out of anger, but if I feel threatened or if my loved ones are threatened, either me or the aggressor is not walking away and I'll fight as long as I have the strength to swing to protect my wife and kids.

 

[winston53660]

So far 8 males have posted in this thread and 5 females have.

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

So far 8 males have posted in this thread and 5 females have.

I'm female, btw.

 

[Redress]

For what it is worth: it depends. Generally a man should not hit a woman, ever. The reverse also holds true. If a man feels threatened, then taking what actions he needs to protect himself is fine, but usually that does not involve hitting.

 

[Djoop]

I would hit the woman out of principle. Then again, I have very small hands, using force is never my best option. Luckily I have little experience with hitting or being hit. In my recollection it never works out, you either get beaten or you end up feeling sorry for your victim. Verbal abuse never fails though ... at least those who master it ..,
it simply never works out for me in any case.

 

[randel]

Yeah, I'm not talking about a guy walking up to a woman and beating the holy hell out of her.. I'm talking about a woman who starts an aggressive action against a male (OR female, for that matter).

A friend of mine (male) had his girlfriend beat the living tar out of him and he didn't raise a finger.. I don't think I'd make a very good man, because I would have laid her out. :? :shrug:

i would have knocked the crap outta her if i was him

 

[Apocalypse]

I'll let my friend who is a female professional boxer, heavyweight, know that it's not possible for her to be able to kick a man's ass. :lol:

Put that friend of yours in the ring together with a male proffessional boxer and she's most likely done for.
There's a reason why male and female sport competetions are separated, and frankly, that's because women can't compete with men of the same level. It's only natural.

Of course a female proffessional boxer can and might as well kick the crap out of an average untrained dude, but that's not an equal level of training.
An average untrained male would kick the crap out of an average untrainede female, an average male proffessional boxer would kick the crap out of an average female proffessional boxer, and so on and so on.

 

[roguenuke]

I said "it depends". I know me, so I know that I would never intentionally hit anyone with any effort to hurt them unless they struck me first or I actually felt threatened and was trying to get a way out of the situation.

However, I have hit some of my male friends, usually with the back of my hand, on the shoulder or in the chest, for their comments or actions. Most I knew would never hit me back and I only did this to guys I know. One treated me like his sister, so I absolutely always expected to get hit back, but I knew that he wouldn't use all of his force against me. Although, there was at least one instance where I came away with a split lip, but it was an accident and I had started it, so I didn't consider it a big deal. There was one incident however, with a different one of my friends who scared the heck out of me while I was standing watch. I felt someone's hand on my leg and I didn't completely trust all the guys in my division, so it startled me. When the guy came up and I seen that it was one of my friends, I hit him on the shoulder with an open hand and told him that he scared the crap out of me. He then punched me in my shoulder pretty hard. It definitely took me by surprise that he had hit me so hard. I could tell he was mad, but so was I. I felt that he should have warned me before he fixed my pantleg (which is what he had been doing) and he didn't think that it should have been that big of deal for me to have hit him. Our other friends intervened and we worked it out, with each of us apologizing.

So, eventhough I expect to possibly get hit back for hitting a guy, if it is one of my friends and we're just playing or I don't actually punch the guy, I completely expect some restraint if he does hit me back. I doubt that I could hurt any of my guy friends even if I punched them, while many of them could hurt me easily with only a half-hearted punch.

 

[Djoop]

Put that friend of yours in the ring together with a male proffessional boxer and she's most likely done for.
There's a reason why male and female sport competetions are separated, and frankly, that's because women can't compete with men of the same level. It's only natural.

Of course a female proffessional boxer can and might as well kick the crap out of an average untrained dude, but that's not an equal level of training.
An average untrained male would kick the crap out of an average untrainede female, an average male proffessional boxer would kick the crap out of an average female proffessional boxer, and so on and so on.

I wouldn't get in the ring with e.g., Lucia Rijker, she also fought professional male kickboxers. I think you underestimate being trained, the fitness aspect as well as the ability to do damage.