Women are most attractive at 31

[1069]

I respect a woman's decision to strip. It's the men that are getting exploited willingly.

I concur.



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[BDBoop]

Where I grew up, that was the logic behind field parties.

Some of the people are insane around here.

The old timers don't want entertainment type places for some reason, then they expect the kids to act all pure and wholesome.
In my town of 10k people, we have 2 "wholesome" things you can do.
They built a skateboard park and football games.

That leaves much "fun" to be had.

 

[Goshin]

Some of the people are insane around here.

The old timers don't want entertainment type places for some reason, then they expect the kids to act all pure and wholesome.
In my town of 10k people, we have 2 "wholesome" things you can do.
They built a skateboard park and football games.

That leaves much "fun" to be had.

Yeah. My original home-church preacher figured that anything other than church-sponsored events, or hunting or fishing, was sin. :roll:

Bored and frustrated teenagers with nothing to do are a terrible thing.

 

[1069]

At least Catholics know how to have fun.
We drink to excess, dance, and play Bingo at church-sponsored events. We also have bad-ass Halloween carnivals with haunted houses that are actually scary, while the stick-up-their-butt protestants down the road are celebrating a "Harvest Festival" because Halloween is Satan's holiday.

>insert obligatory pedophile priest joke here<

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Yeah. My original home-church preacher figured that anything other than church-sponsored events, or hunting or fishing, was sin. :roll:

Bored and frustrated teenagers with nothing to do are a terrible thing.

Very true, not to knock them because their hearts are in the right place.
Their brains, however, need some educating.

As 10 points out, the only real gatherings are to counter the "satan" holidays.
They're, usually, not as much fun.

 

[Dav]

Bored and frustrated teenagers with nothing to do are a terrible thing.

That's why the internet was invented. It keeps us occupied.

 

[1069]

That's why the internet was invented. It keep us occupied.

It would not have kept me occupied, as a teenager.
I was interested in more, shall we say, visceral experiences.
I did like to write, even then, and it no doubt would've provided me with a creative outlet... but it wouldn't have sucked me in the way it did in my more-sedate 30s.

 

[Kali]

I'd say fully half of them are one-timers; they come in in groups out of curiosity or out of pressure from their friends, just to see what it's like.
Then there's another large chunk that only goes occasionally, usually with one buddy, or two.
These guys don't have any loyalty to any particular establishment or girl. They're the type that gets drunk and bored with their friends on a Friday night once in a while and decide, "Hey, let's go hit up a strip club or three".
Unlike the first-timers (who tend to be nervous and overly-awed by the whole situation), these guys sometimes become rambunctious.

Finally, there are regulars, and yes, strip-club regulars are weird.
Sometimes interesting-weird and sometimes creepy-weird.

But they only comprise a minority of the over-all patrons.
Most could not be classified as "regulars", and I'm pretty sure that many of them are "normal". Lot of gangs of rowdy college guys, stuff like that.
The regs tend to be older, and have more money. And they almost invariably come in alone.

So, yeah: regardless of where I formed my opinions about what guys find physically attractive in females, I believe they're valid. My experience is rather broad-based. I mean, I've watched thousands of guys and hundreds of girls over many thousands of hours.
And, because of my tendency to ponder things and form theories, I paid pretty close attention.
I feel like I learned a lot there, on this one particular topic.
I feel like I have a PhD in this topic, actually. Socio-sexual gender interactions, or something.
Not that any of the knowledge I gleaned from such places is worth anything, materially speaking.
But sometimes it's interesting to know things just for the sake of knowing them.
I can walk into a room full of females and line them up in order of how much money they'd make in a club.
I know what makes men choose one woman over another, in a situation where all are equally available.

Materially speaking? The knowledge you have on this subject could make for a good read which could bring you some mad money

 

[Kali]

Assuming AE is referring to strip clubs and suchlike, it seems to be rapidly becoming a commonplace rite of passage. I'm thinking that 90% of young men between 21-29 have been to a strip club at least once. If I had to guess I'd say half of them went once or twice a month for a year or more, and some of those continue to do so.

Nowadays they're everywhere, and put up billboards on the highway, and the stigma has largely worn off. And I live in the buckle on the Bible Belt! :roll:

When I was 25, the only strip club in the county was down a dirt road, on a wooded acreage with a gate and no sign. You had to know somebody to get in. (I never went, it seemed likely to be far too sordid and embarassing.)

Boy have things changed; people see this as normal now. Some men even go with their wife or GF, apparently. Personally I don't think this is a good change; I don't think it teaches young men any respect for women, for sure. The opposite, more like.

Well there are nice clubs that are not those back in the day skanky type places. They are called Genetlemans Clubs and are usually much better than your typical nasty strip club.

I can totally see why gf and wife would come along to these places with their men. A lot of them are very tasteful and those girls have major dance skills.

 

[Kali]

Some of the people are insane around here.

The old timers don't want entertainment type places for some reason, then they expect the kids to act all pure and wholesome.
In my town of 10k people, we have 2 "wholesome" things you can do.
They built a skateboard park and football games.

That leaves much "fun" to be had.

Do you live in North Carolina?

 

[1069]

Materially speaking? The knowledge you have on this subject could make for a good read which could bring you some mad money

And perhaps it will someday; my memoir will contain exactly one (1) chapter on it.
This is unlikely to benefit me monetarily, however, because I don't plan to write my memoir until I'm old and dying.

 

[Kali]

And perhaps it will someday; my memoir will contain exactly one (1) chapter on it.
This is unlikely to benefit me monetarily, however, because I don't plan to write my memoir until I'm old and dying.

Well I hope I am still around to read it

 

[lizzie]

I'd say that the survey results are pretty accurate in my own experience. Early 30's was my peak for looks- not too young and bouncy, but not old enough to be a victim to gravity yet, and definitely no longer an empty-headed piece of fluff.

That being said, 50's is where it's at psychologically and emotionally. I absolutely love it!

 

[BDBoop]

Roger that.

Have you seen this video? I was a bit hysterical.

I'd say that the survey results are pretty accurate in my own experience. Early 30's was my peak for looks- not too young and bouncy, but not old enough to be a victim to gravity yet, and definitely no longer an empty-headed piece of fluff.

That being said, 50's is where it's at psychologically and emotionally. I absolutely love it!

 

[lizzie]

Roger that.

Have you seen this video? I was a bit hysterical.

Hah! That's great!:mrgreen: Thanks for posting.

 

[Gipper]

That being said, 50's is where it's at psychologically and emotionally. I absolutely love it!

Too bad it's not physically though, unless you're a fetishist that chases grannies. No offense.

I've learned one simple truth from women: the best age to be is whatever age they're currently at - and the age they say they're currently at is 29.

 

[BDBoop]

I'd rather be alone than with most of the males on the planet. They're right; all the good ones are taken.

Too bad it's not physically though, unless you're a fetishist that chases grannies. No offense.

I've learned one simple truth from women: the best age to be is whatever age they're currently at - and the age they say they're currently at is 29.

 

[lizzie]

Too bad it's not physically though, unless you're a fetishist that chases grannies. No offense.

No offense taken. Frankly, I love this time of my life, and it's kind of nice not being viewed as a piece of meat anymore. The beauty of youth is definitely an advantage, but it's pretty devoid of anything real, and it tends to attract men who are somewhat superficial and shallow. Of course, it attracts nice intelligent men as well (naturally), but you have to work your way through alot of stuff to find the real treasure.

 

[cpwill]

I'm thinking it's a more common rite of passage in urban areas than in rural areas.
Adult-oriented businesses tend to proliferate around military bases; most military guys have probably been to one.

there is a strip club in jacksonville north carolina called "driftwood"; about a mile outside the gate. it is considered a kind of wierd cultural touchstone; one of those "if you are an East Coast Marine you have to go there just to have gone there at least once" kind of things.

i've been, but i'm kind of wierd myself; and while my buddies were staring at the bouncing flesh i checked out the faces. then i realized that these women were at work (and, at times, about as excited about their job as i was about mine), and it kind of ruined the whole experience for me.

i will generally agree that you get a rough cross section of american males through a club at some point or another; but remember also behavioral differences. at a strip club, you are generallly there to engage in a different kind of sensual experience than you are when you (for example) begin to date a girl, or marry one. most folks are not the same people at sports games, strip clubs, or casinos as they are on a regular basis.

personally, i tend to agree that the early 20's are the sexiest years, but then, my wife is 24 and i am 27. ask me in 10 years and i may have a very different answer. our opinions of these things are malleable according to what we put in front of our eyes and in our minds; and i consiously make the point to focus on my wife as the chief source of feminine beauty and sexuality in my life.

back to the personal; as to yourself and kali etc; i will say i find your life interesting, because it is so very different from my own; son of a minister, youth pastor, military, etc; you have a unique read.

 

[1069]

i've been, but i'm kind of wierd myself; and while my buddies were staring at the bouncing flesh i checked out the faces. then i realized that these women were at work (and, at times, about as excited about their job as i was about mine), and it kind of ruined the whole experience for me.

Yeah.
I've encountered many guys who were perceptive enough to see that.
Ironically, dancers hate guys like that.
It's like, "Can't you see I'm working, fool? If I can be up here night after night, in costume, in persona, pretending this is fun instead of a job, the least you can do is play along."

What I really hated was guys who would say, "You look bored."
I'd always say, "I'm not bored. That's just how my face is."
Inside I'd be wondering, "Seriously. How do you expect me to respond to that? This is my job. Either give me money or go away and leave me alone."

i will generally agree that you get a rough cross section of american males through a club at some point or another; but remember also behavioral differences. at a strip club, you are generallly there to engage in a different kind of sensual experience than you are when you (for example) begin to date a girl, or marry one. most folks are not the same people at sports games, strip clubs, or casinos as they are on a regular basis.

Agreed.

personally, i tend to agree that the early 20's are the sexiest years, but then, my wife is 24 and i am 27. ask me in 10 years and i may have a very different answer. our opinions of these things are malleable according to what we put in front of our eyes and in our minds; and i consiously make the point to focus on my wife as the chief source of feminine beauty and sexuality in my life.

Agreed; I'd say nearly all of the 20s.
Many women do not even begin to fade until their late 20s.
When you're older, you may agree. It's hard to see it objectively, when you're still in your 20s.
I definitely think that by the 30s, however, the physical decline has begun, for most women, even though they may just be coming into their own, intellectually and personality-wise.

back to the personal; as to yourself and kali etc; i will say i find your life interesting, because it is so very different from my own; son of a minister, youth pastor, military, etc; you have a unique read.

My son is in the military. We have something in common after all.

 

[cpwill]

Yeah.
I've encountered many guys who were perceptive enough to see that.
Ironically, dancers hate guys like that.
It's like, "Can't you see I'm working, fool? If I can be up here night after night, in costume, in persona, pretending this is fun instead of a job, the least you can do is play along."

What I really hated was guys who would say, "You look bored."
I'd always say, "I'm not bored. That's just how my face is."
Inside I'd be wondering, "Seriously. How do you expect me to respond to that? This is my job. Either give me money or go away and leave me alone."

well yeah; the girl isn't there because gosh she really was hoping a random guy would come in tonight and slur drunkenly at her; she's there because you, the horny fellow, are her income. i stayed in the back corner, had a couple of drinks, and waited for my friends to need someone responsible to corral them back home. honestly, not to try to come off as demeaning, but after that - despite having been to a couple since - i never understood how some of my buddies always seemed to think that strip clubs were epic good times.

it actually made me kind of sad :-/ not sure exactly why. :lol: now that guy i'm sure is the worst one in the world to have in the club. but i was good enough i suppose to keep it to myself.

perhaps you can answer this question i've wondered though; i've seen the 'pole-dancing-fitness' routine tapes etc - do dancers generally have to work at staying in shape? or are the routines enough to keep the requisite tummy lines, etc.?

Agreed.

the question then becomes; to what extent are there different forms of "sexy"/"attractiveness" that would be determined by those kinds of behavioral assumptions? if i'm not looking for someone willing to be 20, blond, cluless, giggly, and bouncy (stereotyping), then am i still going to find that attractive?

Agreed; I'd say nearly all of the 20s.
Many women do not even begin to fade until their late 20s.
When you're older, you may agree. It's hard to see it objectively, when you're still in your 20s.

that's a fair point; and the only counters i can really offer is 1: who is to say that just as i thought 14 year old girls were the most amazing beautiful things at 14, that i will not find my 30-ish wife the most amazing beautiful thing at 30-ish; why does my opinion have to stop with 20-ish year old me?
and 2: Jennifer Anniston. though she may be an outlier.

I definitely think that by the 30s, however, the physical decline has begun, for most women, even though they may just be coming into their own, intellectually and personality-wise.

and that doesn't feed back in? how you hold and carry yourself is a huge part of whether or not you are attracting.

My son is in the military. We have something in common after all.

true.

HAH - oh lucky you, you get to know the worst part of deployments. i never appreciated how much that end sucked until all my guys went to Marjeh and I stayed back here to go to MOS school. they've been there not even two full months now, already too many of them aren't coming home... or aren't coming home with all their pieces - far worse being here than being there with them. but i promised the lady i would get out of the grunts, so it is what it is.

 

[Catz Part Deux]

Younger women are sort of like parfait... nice for an appetizer or dessert, but for the main course you want red meat you can sink your teeth into, and for that you usually have to go over 30. :mrgreen:

Rock on, you sexy beast. For the record, I feel the same way about men. I used to really like younger men, but now that I'm dating someone who is over 40, I have really come to appreciate the virtues of men in their 40s. HOT.

 

[Gardener]

I'd rather be alone than with most of the males on the planet. .

I had to read that one a couple of times, because the first time through I didn't notice the word "than".

 

[BDBoop]

Thanks for my first real laugh of the day.

I had to read that one a couple of times, because the first time through I didn't notice the word "than".

 

[lizzie]

I had to read that one a couple of times, because the first time through I didn't notice the word "than".

Admittedly, there's alot of wome who are crazy, but surely none of them are quite that insane.