Devil, run and hide from this now....
cut and run...
Your side is doing the exact thing you have been bitching about. lets see you not be hypocritical.... :lol:
You know I can not tell if some are dense, do not read, or just do not care. Here, in this thread, we are talking about a woman that shamelessly lied her ass off. Other threads of discussed the tactics and strategies of not discussing healthcare reform, but rather to disrupt townhalls so that there is no discussion. What your smoking gun here is calling for grassroots organization..whoop de doo. What you have with that, I do not not. But I guess if you want to compare multi-billion dollar insurers hiring organizers with some liberal groups, go right ahead. Still does not change the simple facts that this woman is a shameless liar, and the right wing organizers were too stupid that they did not keep their mouths shut about their strategy beforehand.
Maybe you should actually read what people are bitching about for once, so as to not make a fool of yourself.
So IOW you have no problem with a permanent Liberal Communist government here in the US, right?? Pathetic indeed!!!!
You know I can not tell if some are dense, do not read, or just do not care. Here, in this thread, we are talking about a woman that shamelessly lied her ass off. Other threads of discussed the tactics and strategies of not discussing healthcare reform, but rather to disrupt townhalls so that there is no discussion. What your smoking gun here is calling for grassroots organization..whoop de doo. What you have with that, I do not not. But I guess if you want to compare multi-billion dollar insurers hiring organizers with some liberal groups, go right ahead. Still does not change the simple facts that this woman is a shameless liar, and the right wing organizers were too stupid that they did not keep their mouths shut about their strategy beforehand.
Maybe you should actually read what people are bitching about for once, so as to not make a fool of yourself.
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As far as this woman, she didn't "lie her ass off" as it appears she is currently no longer part a part of the republican party, simply a registered republican, yes?
Except there's been ZERO proof that "multi-billion dollar insureres" are hiring organizers. There have been proof that PACS have been ORGANIZING people (still no proof that people have been paid...I stll think some have, I think its a small minority, and I think that its happening on both sides such as shown in Rev's above post) but how is a PAC on the right organizing something any different than a politicial group on teh left organizing something. Why is one "grassroots" and the others not?
As far as this woman, she didn't "lie her ass off" as it appears she is currently no longer part a part of the republican party, simply a registered republican, yes? Or are you advocating that everyone that has ever had anything to do with a political party should get up at a town hall and run down their resume before speaking?
Oh quit being so disingenuous for god's sake. This woman lied. Have you not read anything? Obviously not, or you are selectively choosing in what to read. The woman actively worked to unseat this specific Congress member as a member of his Republican opponent's campaign. She has a long list of associations with the Republican party, as well as employment with the Republican party. So no, she is not as she says “not affiliated with any political party." That is complete and utter B.S. and you god damn well know it. This is the one thing that just grinds my gears, in the face of reality you still want to argue that this woman was just some average Jane?
And for the last time, speaking just for myself, I have not had issue if people in opposition to the bills at hand wish to organize. What I have an issue with is when a lobbying firm puts out a memo telling their activists to disrupt town halls so that no discussion can occur. The whole issue of people being paid off is something one person brought up, and you can take that up with them.
Hey, that sounds like they are....umm....what's the word..."organized."Well, that's great for you. I'm not speaking just with you, but with those on the thread in general on the opposite side. Its hardly "one" perosn that's been mentioning the paid thing, with Devil, Formerroadie, and WillRockwell all being large proponents of the "they're paid off" theory.
Where did I advocate she be silenced?
Hey, that sounds like they are....umm....what's the word..."organized."
I wonder who's paying them? Do we know they're not being paid? Can we be certain they're not "plants" of Dear Leader and the Anti-Republican Party?
After all, paranoia should be an equal opportunity affliction.
Was she being a bit dishonest? Yes.
Being organized is not the problem. It's HIDING the fact that your are an organized group & posing as just impartial concerned citizens (without an agenda) .
She's still a citizen and has a right to speak her mind on issues of public interest. This is a fundamental American right. What are you going to do, conduct litmus tests for free speech?
You totally miss the point & I assume it was intentional.
Being organized is not the problem. It's HIDING the fact that your are an organized group & posing as just impartial concerned citizens (without an agenda) that makes it deception, deceitful & lying.
Your guys understand what I'm saying.......You just will never admit that I am right!
Again, it is the GOP's attempts at DECEPTION that are the key here & a large reason why you guys are out of power & will remain so.
Except you have no proof she was doing it as part of an "organized group"
Because you're not
Except, again, you have no proof this has anything to do with THE GOP
Was she being a bit dishonest? Yes.
The fact that the woman lied doesn't bother you? You approve of stealth politics?
I don't care if she is an operative, I care that she misrepresented herself as 'just a mom'.
It doesn't bother me. If she was going to lie, a better lie would be to say she was an expert in health care and budgeting.
"Just a mom" doesn't really say "listen to me!"
Why did she give up on the republican party? Maybe she doesn't want to be associated with the party anymore.
Nobody has a thing on this woman until they can prove she's a plant as they claim. Until then she's just a mom from down the street like she said.
She was a plant. I proved it by providing Heather Bliss own webpage. Her own words out herself.
Small question for you:
Since you admit this:
Is being a bit dishonest. ....Like being slightly or a bit pregnant?
She was a plant. I proved it by providing Heather Bliss own webpage. Her own words out herself.
Ah, so you live in a world of absolutes devil? Such as "You're either with us or against us". Hey, random question, did you fully support America during the Iraq War or were you against the war and thus against America? You know, since its all or nothing for you.
I wouldn't exactly use a "bit" pregnant but you could use a definition for pregnant as a value based on how long they've been pregnant. However I don't think it fits with the words you're using for it anymore.
If I swing by the bar and have a short drink with a few guy friends after a long day at work and when I arrive home kind of late my GF goes "Wow you're home late, did you have a long day at worK" and I simply answered "yes" I'd be a bit dishonest because that wasn't the only reason I was late, but the reason I was late had little baring on the situation or the person I was asking and it was a long day at work.
If I get off work early and take the oppertunity to swing by my mistresses house for a little afternoon delight and then show up home late to my GF going "Wow, you're home late, did you go somewhere after work" and I go "No, I just got caught up in the office for a long time" I'd say I'm being very dishonest, because not only am I omiting information but I'm flat out lying about it and its something that would have a high probability of greatly affecting the person I'm responding to.
In this case whether or not she worked with Republicans a year ago should have little baring on the matter; her views are her views. I would say she was being far more dishonest and flat out lying if she had said the same thing she said but was CURRENTLY working for the republican party. But that's not what was the matter.
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