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What billions of people in the world. ? Come now.
The fact is that we should make it easy for citizens in the us to vote. If a few non citizens or fraud takes place? It's so minor it doesn't matter.
Meanwhile putting the liars and thieves in charge as you say of deciding who gets to vote or not..well historically that has not worked out.
Verification and certification by notaries? How do you stop a notary from simply saying..sorry doesn't match..since signature verification is still subjective.
Cripes signatures Chand all the time too. Get older ..have essential tremor..hand injury, arthritis , stroke, Parkinson and so forth.
Why do you want 5p put liars and thieves into the position to simply cheat by arbitrarily refusing to let opposing voters vote.
Its what happened with Jim crow laws. The voting law was that everyone had to undergo a literacy test.
When administered to a white person..they person administering the test passed him.
When it was a black person..they failed them.
Done.

I had to sift through what you wrote to find something that was connected to the real world.

A Notary WITNESSES the signer signing the document and attests that the signer who signed is the person indicated on the document.

This is NOT a forensic investigation. It occurs at the time when when the signature is affixed. The signing is WITNESSED by the Notary.
 
I had to sift through what you wrote to find something that was connected to the real world.

A Notary WITNESSES the signer signing the document and attests that the signer who signed is the person indicated on the document.

This is NOT a forensic investigation. It occurs at the time when when the signature is affixed. The signing is WITNESSED by the Notary.

He described literacy tests accurately.

If the angry old white talk radio right thinks that changing the laws to make it hard for the “wrong people” to vote will work this time, I think they’re in for a disappointment.

One of the main reasons they lost last time was because millions of Americans are now aware of these formerly obscure and behind the scenes efforts (which have been going on in increasingly obvious ways for twenty years).

That’s going to happen again in 2022.

Nobody wants to year the right’s pathetic lies about protecting voter security in elections in which there is almost no real fraud.

But since the GOP couldn’t win the last election on the strength of ideas (which mainly centered around worshiping their wannabe fuhrer), they have to change tho laws so they can try and pick the right voters, since they can’t win election any other way.
 

Another win for White Privilege, thanks to DEMOCRATS.

Thanks for informing me about the current demographics of Atlanta.

Now I better understand why Her Honor is trying to find a way to stop rampant crime.
 
I had to sift through what you wrote to find something that was connected to the real world.

A Notary WITNESSES the signer signing the document and attests that the signer who signed is the person indicated on the document.

This is NOT a forensic investigation. It occurs at the time when when the signature is affixed. The signing is WITNESSED by the Notary.

Wow.. okay.. thats whackadoo.
 
Wow.. okay.. thats whackadoo.

Why? Because it provides certainty?

How many of the billions of people on the planet to you wish would vote in our elections?
 
Why? Because it provides certainty?

How many of the billions of people on the planet to you wish would vote in our elections?
Because it would cost billions of dollars and would require elections last months ..
And wouldn't make a lick of difference when it comes to stopping fraud since there is no evidence it exists on a scale to influence a state or national election
 
Because it would cost billions of dollars and would require elections last months ..
And wouldn't make a lick of difference when it comes to stopping fraud since there is no evidence it exists on a scale to influence a state or national election

Regarding the first statement, you are wrong.

With regard to the second statement, you don't know.
 
Regarding the first statement, you are wrong.

With regard to the second statement, you don't know.
Of course it would... how would it not cost billions and take months.. to hire notaries to oversee the signing of every absentee/mail ballot. You would have to have notaries go into homes for people that are disabled and or elderly. It would take months for notaries to verify every signature for an absentee ballot. You would have to have notaries be able to witness the signatures for all our military personnel overseas.. etc.

Sure I do.. voter fraud has been researched extensively. There is no evidence of systemic voter fraud. The logistics are just too great. You can;t even come up with how it would work on a systemic level.
However.. the research has shown that while fraud is not an issue with the safety of elections... instead its been shown that voter suppression through greater restrictions HAS been shown to be effective tool for politicians to cheat. I.E the jim crow voting laws that required a literacy test.. and that literacy test was applied differently whether you were white or black.
 
Of course it would... how would it not cost billions and take months.. to hire notaries to oversee the signing of every absentee/mail ballot. You would have to have notaries go into homes for people that are disabled and or elderly. It would take months for notaries to verify every signature for an absentee ballot. You would have to have notaries be able to witness the signatures for all our military personnel overseas.. etc.

Sure I do.. voter fraud has been researched extensively. There is no evidence of systemic voter fraud. The logistics are just too great. You can;t even come up with how it would work on a systemic level.
However.. the research has shown that while fraud is not an issue with the safety of elections... instead its been shown that voter suppression through greater restrictions HAS been shown to be effective tool for politicians to cheat. I.E the jim crow voting laws that required a literacy test.. and that literacy test was applied differently whether you were white or black.

If signatures cannot be verified, what method to you recommend to certify the identities of those that CHOOSE to vote in locations remote from election officials?

Voter fraud has NOT been researched effectively at all. Why would the crooks who defraud the public by running crooked elections want to be found out? Why would they run the investigations to do so?

Voter fraud has been noticed to have occurred. This notice occurs despite NO INVESTIGATIONS OF ANY SORT. However, the least stringent measures possible are used to certify voter identity and qualifications.

Listen to an add for your local on-line betting house. Double your winnings tonight only. Bet on either team and get $100 automatically. The house always wins.

In the case of our elections we KNOW that they are run by politicians. We KNOW that politicians are lying thieves. We know that the house always wins.

Clearly, we KNOW that lying thieves are running our elections.

This is all you need to understand to also understand that good safe guards need to be in place.

In passing, incumbents win about 93% of the time and Congress has an approval rate of about 30%. Do the math.

 
If signatures cannot be verified, what method to you recommend to certify the identities of those that CHOOSE to vote in locations remote from election officials?

Voter fraud has NOT been researched effectively at all. Why would the crooks who defraud the public by running crooked elections want to be found out? Why would they run the investigations to do so?

Voter fraud has been noticed to have occurred. This notice occurs despite NO INVESTIGATIONS OF ANY SORT. However, the least stringent measures possible are used to certify voter identity and qualifications.

Listen to an add for your local on-line betting house. Double your winnings tonight only. Bet on either team and get $100 automatically. The house always wins.

In the case of our elections we KNOW that they are run by politicians. We KNOW that politicians are lying thieves. We know that the house always wins.

Clearly, we KNOW that lying thieves are running our elections.

This is all you need to understand to also understand that good safe guards need to be in place.

In passing, incumbents win about 93% of the time and Congress has an approval rate of about 30%. Do the math.

1. I would recommend that ballots be sent out to those registered voters that request them. Thats really all thats necessary since the logistics of committing fraud after that are just too great
2. Voter fraud has been studied extensively for decades. Its not like voter fraud is studied by politicians. Politicians don;t study fraud. Researchers do. And there are a plethora of independent researchers and research groups that have studied the issue of voter fraud and found that there is little to no evidence of systemic voter fraud particularly for state or federal elections.
3. Yes. Elections ARE run by politicians.. which means by granting politicians the power to exclude people from voting, you are literally handing them the power to keep themselves elected. Thats the irony of your position. You fear these politicians cheating.. and then want to give them the means to cheat. Trying to get your hands on a bunch of absentee ballots.. put peoples names on them of registered voters, and then hope none of those voters actually votes creating duplicates and suspicion.. not to mention stealing those absentee ballots.. knowing how many you need to win.. knowing that you are not taking votes from people that would have voted for you anyway.. etc.. is impossible logistically.
BUT.. put a restriction in that signatures have to be checked and approved to be accepted as a vote? All a politician has to do, is get a few vote counters to go along and they simply reject votes for "unmatching signatures".. from areas that tend to vote for the opposition.
The safeguard to stop this is to let people vote. To make voting easy and be careful not to allow politicians to put restrictions on voting that put them in power to prevent votes.

4. Voter fraud has occurred on a very small scale. Its occurred and been prosecuted because there are already multiple layers of investigation into the system.

The irony in your premise regarding the politicians being liars and thieves and stealing an election..is that you are listening to these liars tell you that there is fraud... even though they, nor anyone else can produce ANY credible evidence that it happens in a systemic level. And not only do you drink up their lies.. you then agree with their proposals to "protect the vote".. by giving them the VERY POWER.. to cheat an election!!!
 
1. I would recommend that ballots be sent out to those registered voters that request them. Thats really all thats necessary since the logistics of committing fraud after that are just too great
2. Voter fraud has been studied extensively for decades. Its not like voter fraud is studied by politicians. Politicians don;t study fraud. Researchers do. And there are a plethora of independent researchers and research groups that have studied the issue of voter fraud and found that there is little to no evidence of systemic voter fraud particularly for state or federal elections.
3. Yes. Elections ARE run by politicians.. which means by granting politicians the power to exclude people from voting, you are literally handing them the power to keep themselves elected. Thats the irony of your position. You fear these politicians cheating.. and then want to give them the means to cheat. Trying to get your hands on a bunch of absentee ballots.. put peoples names on them of registered voters, and then hope none of those voters actually votes creating duplicates and suspicion.. not to mention stealing those absentee ballots.. knowing how many you need to win.. knowing that you are not taking votes from people that would have voted for you anyway.. etc.. is impossible logistically.
BUT.. put a restriction in that signatures have to be checked and approved to be accepted as a vote? All a politician has to do, is get a few vote counters to go along and they simply reject votes for "unmatching signatures".. from areas that tend to vote for the opposition.
The safeguard to stop this is to let people vote. To make voting easy and be careful not to allow politicians to put restrictions on voting that put them in power to prevent votes.

4. Voter fraud has occurred on a very small scale. Its occurred and been prosecuted because there are already multiple layers of investigation into the system.

The irony in your premise regarding the politicians being liars and thieves and stealing an election..is that you are listening to these liars tell you that there is fraud... even though they, nor anyone else can produce ANY credible evidence that it happens in a systemic level. And not only do you drink up their lies.. you then agree with their proposals to "protect the vote".. by giving them the VERY POWER.. to cheat an election!!!

Do you seriously believe that lying thieves competing to win a thing that they truly desire to win are not going to study HOW to cheat to win?

Your naivete is adorable and probably a little dangerous for you. I hope you have concerned caretakers.

You recommend that voters be allowed to vote with absolutely NO review of their identity. More than 1 million ballots requested were NOT returned in Michigan.

When ballots are requested, it is more like a "maybe I'll need this" than a "this is my sacred and cherished right".

Why is it so important to you that the identities of voters be a mystery allowing any individual from any part of the world to cast ballots in our elections?
 
Do you seriously believe that lying thieves competing to win a thing that they truly desire to win are not going to study HOW to cheat to win?

Your naivete is adorable and probably a little dangerous for you. I hope you have concerned caretakers.

You recommend that voters be allowed to vote with absolutely NO review of their identity. More than 1 million ballots requested were NOT returned in Michigan.

When ballots are requested, it is more like a "maybe I'll need this" than a "this is my sacred and cherished right".

Why is it so important to you that the identities of voters be a mystery allowing any individual from any part of the world to cast ballots in our elections?
Sure. Lying thieves probably do study how to cheat. HOWEVER THEY PROBABLY DONT HAVE THEIR RESEARCH PUBLISHED IN PEER REVIEWED ARTICLES... you ridiculous dude.
Talk about naivete

Well.. thats not quite true of voters being allowed to vote with NO review. I suggested requested ballots from registered voters.
So what that 1 million ballots requested were not returned in michigan? What does that mean to you? I mean.. they weren;t all sent to ONE ADDRESS were they? Duh.. so you going to claim that these ballots were requested and then sent to a million different addresses which didn;t match up with the address of a registered voters. And that the politicians purchased a million residents or rented them.. just so they could collect all those ballots? Oh.. and then none of the people who requested those ballots.. then ended up voting in person or requesting another ballot because theirs didn;t arrive.. and thus create evidence of a scheme to take ballots from registered voters?

Dude.. sending out ballots to registered voters.. is not " identities of voters being a mystery". It doesn't appear that you even understand our voting process here in america. Are you a Russian Troll?

The real question is to you. IF you contend that politicians are liars and thieves and they want to cheat elections. WHY do you then BELIEVE. these liars and thieves when they tell you that there was systemic fraud.. when they cannot produce ANY Evidence of systemic fraud? Why do you believe these liars and thieves.. when they tell you their was systemic fraud.. in a system that they designed.. and only after LOSING.. do they tell you its fraudulent (and again with no proof).
And then.. after believing these liars and thieves who have produced no proof of their assertions.. why are you so willing to go along with these liars and thieves and willingly HAND THEM THE TOOLS TO RESTRICT VOTES from their opposition?

Please explain.
 
Sure. Lying thieves probably do study how to cheat. HOWEVER THEY PROBABLY DONT HAVE THEIR RESEARCH PUBLISHED IN PEER REVIEWED ARTICLES... you ridiculous dude.
Talk about naivete

Well.. thats not quite true of voters being allowed to vote with NO review. I suggested requested ballots from registered voters.
So what that 1 million ballots requested were not returned in michigan? What does that mean to you? I mean.. they weren;t all sent to ONE ADDRESS were they? Duh.. so you going to claim that these ballots were requested and then sent to a million different addresses which didn;t match up with the address of a registered voters. And that the politicians purchased a million residents or rented them.. just so they could collect all those ballots? Oh.. and then none of the people who requested those ballots.. then ended up voting in person or requesting another ballot because theirs didn;t arrive.. and thus create evidence of a scheme to take ballots from registered voters?

Dude.. sending out ballots to registered voters.. is not " identities of voters being a mystery". It doesn't appear that you even understand our voting process here in america. Are you a Russian Troll?

The real question is to you. IF you contend that politicians are liars and thieves and they want to cheat elections. WHY do you then BELIEVE. these liars and thieves when they tell you that there was systemic fraud.. when they cannot produce ANY Evidence of systemic fraud? Why do you believe these liars and thieves.. when they tell you their was systemic fraud.. in a system that they designed.. and only after LOSING.. do they tell you its fraudulent (and again with no proof).
And then.. after believing these liars and thieves who have produced no proof of their assertions.. why are you so willing to go along with these liars and thieves and willingly HAND THEM THE TOOLS TO RESTRICT VOTES from their opposition?

Please explain.

When a person drives a car off the lot, whether it's a car dealership or a rental outlet, the person in the driver's seat needs to verify his right to drive it away.

You are suggesting that anyone can vote with no verification of qualification at all.

You position is insane. Unless you position is to promote fraud.
 
When a person drives a car off the lot, whether it's a car dealership or a rental outlet, the person in the driver's seat needs to verify his right to drive it away.

You are suggesting that anyone can vote with no verification of qualification at all.

You position is insane. Unless you position is to promote fraud.
Yeah stop lying.
Sending a ballot to a registered voters is not "anyone can vote with no verification of qualification at all".
Say the state sends you a ballot to you as you request as a registered voter.
But.. the evil illegal immigrants are lying in wait.. just to steal your ballot.. which they do.. and they vote for BIDEN..on your ballot... oh terrible!

Oh wait.. you don;t get your ballot.. and so you request another and you send it in.. and now there is a duplicate ballot with your name on it.. and so that attempt at fraud is found out. Done.

Your position is the one thats insane my friend.

IF you contend that politicians are liars and thieves and they want to cheat elections. WHY do you then BELIEVE. these liars and thieves when they tell you that there was systemic fraud.. when they cannot produce ANY Evidence of systemic fraud? Why do you believe these liars and thieves.. when they tell you their was systemic fraud.. in a system that they designed.. and only after LOSING.. do they tell you its fraudulent (and again with no proof).
And then.. after believing these liars and thieves who have produced no proof of their assertions.. why are you so willing to go along with these liars and thieves and willingly HAND THEM THE TOOLS TO RESTRICT VOTES from their opposition?

Please explain.

Still waiting for an answer dude. Why do you believe these liars and thieves? Why do you want to give them the power to decide who votes.. ?
 
Yeah stop lying.


Still waiting for an answer dude. Why do you believe these liars and thieves? Why do you want to give them the power to decide who votes.. ?
I can tell you why, but I’d be risking an infraction, if you catch my drift...
 
Yeah stop lying.
Sending a ballot to a registered voters is not "anyone can vote with no verification of qualification at all".
Say the state sends you a ballot to you as you request as a registered voter.
But.. the evil illegal immigrants are lying in wait.. just to steal your ballot.. which they do.. and they vote for BIDEN..on your ballot... oh terrible!

Oh wait.. you don;t get your ballot.. and so you request another and you send it in.. and now there is a duplicate ballot with your name on it.. and so that attempt at fraud is found out. Done.

Your position is the one thats insane my friend.

IF you contend that politicians are liars and thieves and they want to cheat elections. WHY do you then BELIEVE. these liars and thieves when they tell you that there was systemic fraud.. when they cannot produce ANY Evidence of systemic fraud? Why do you believe these liars and thieves.. when they tell you their was systemic fraud.. in a system that they designed.. and only after LOSING.. do they tell you its fraudulent (and again with no proof).
And then.. after believing these liars and thieves who have produced no proof of their assertions.. why are you so willing to go along with these liars and thieves and willingly HAND THEM THE TOOLS TO RESTRICT VOTES from their opposition?

Please explain.

Still waiting for an answer dude. Why do you believe these liars and thieves? Why do you want to give them the power to decide who votes.. ?

I have answered your question repeatedly, but you refuse to accept my answer.

I START with the firm and undeniable knowledge that ALL POLITICIANS are liars and thieves.

If a politician says ANYTHING, I assume it's a lie. What is difficult for you to understand in this?

I am not believing anyone who says that the "the other side" is cheating. BOTH SIDES say this of both sides. Have you somehow failed to notice this?

Who you send the ballot to has absolutely nothing to do with verifying who returns the completed ballot as a vote in an election.

The verification of the identity and qualification of the VOTER is what I wish to see firmed up. Mailing lists are mailing lists. I don't care who is on them.

Would you care to discuss topics I am talking about or are you going to continue to simply respond to the voices in your head?
 
I have answered your question repeatedly, but you refuse to accept my answer.

I START with the firm and undeniable knowledge that ALL POLITICIANS are liars and thieves.

If a politician says ANYTHING, I assume it's a lie. What is difficult for you to understand in this?

I am not believing anyone who says that the "the other side" is cheating. BOTH SIDES say this of both sides. Have you somehow failed to notice this?

Who you send the ballot to has absolutely nothing to do with verifying who returns the completed ballot as a vote in an election.

The verification of the identity and qualification of the VOTER is what I wish to see firmed up. Mailing lists are mailing lists. I don't care who is on them.

Would you care to discuss topics I am talking about or are you going to continue to simply respond to the voices in your head?
No.. you didn;t answer the questions. You keep avoiding it.
You SAY.. you "assume what a politicians says is a lie"... but you have absolutely BELIEVED those same politicians when they say that there is widespread fraud. Despite them not being able to produce a LICK of evidence that there is widespread fraud.
And not only do you suck up their BS hook line in sinker... but then.. YOU BELIEVE THEM AGAIN.. when they tell you that the only way to fix the problem..is to give these cheaters and liars.. the power to DECIDE WHO VOTES.
So.. you have no credibility when you say.. "but but I don;t believe these liars and thieves"...you most certainly do. And worse.. you are willing to give them MORE power to cheat.

Certainly who I send a ballot to has to do with verifying who returns the completed ballot.
Like I said.. send a ballot to a registered voter. And it gets stolen.... the registered voter requests another.. identifying a problem.
And so on.

Why do you "wish to see the identity and qualification of the voter "firmed up"? Why do you wish to grant more power to the liars and thieves to regulate who gets to vote?
Oh wait.. because those same liars and thieves have told you there is a problem with how the system works.. even though they can provide NO PROOF.

So.. You basically want to give more power to the liars and thieves to stop a problem that you have no evidence exists.. except for the word of these very liars and thieves.
 
No.. you didn;t answer the questions. You keep avoiding it.
You SAY.. you "assume what a politicians says is a lie"... but you have absolutely BELIEVED those same politicians when they say that there is widespread fraud. Despite them not being able to produce a LICK of evidence that there is widespread fraud.
And not only do you suck up their BS hook line in sinker... but then.. YOU BELIEVE THEM AGAIN.. when they tell you that the only way to fix the problem..is to give these cheaters and liars.. the power to DECIDE WHO VOTES.
So.. you have no credibility when you say.. "but but I don;t believe these liars and thieves"...you most certainly do. And worse.. you are willing to give them MORE power to cheat.

Certainly who I send a ballot to has to do with verifying who returns the completed ballot.
Like I said.. send a ballot to a registered voter. And it gets stolen.... the registered voter requests another.. identifying a problem.
And so on.

Why do you "wish to see the identity and qualification of the voter "firmed up"? Why do you wish to grant more power to the liars and thieves to regulate who gets to vote?
Oh wait.. because those same liars and thieves have told you there is a problem with how the system works.. even though they can provide NO PROOF.

So.. You basically want to give more power to the liars and thieves to stop a problem that you have no evidence exists.. except for the word of these very liars and thieves.

Still discussing topics with the voices in your head.

Why are you quoting my posts when you ignore what they say?
 
Still discussing topics with the voices in your head.

Why are you quoting my posts when you ignore what they say?
Still discussing topics with the voices in your head.

Why are you quoting my posts when you ignore what they say?
Your failure to answer is again noted.
You simply cannot get around the fact that regardless of your assertions to the contrary..you believe these liars and thieves when they tell you that there is systemic fraud ..despite no evidence whatsoever..and you still believe in handi g these liars and thieves more power to cheat.
All your insults and diversions cannot get around those facts.
Have a very a nice day.
 
Your failure to answer is again noted.
You simply cannot get around the fact that regardless of your assertions to the contrary..you believe these liars and thieves when they tell you that there is systemic fraud ..despite no evidence whatsoever..and you still believe in handi g these liars and thieves more power to cheat.
All your insults and diversions cannot get around those facts.
Have a very a nice day.

I believe the opportunity for mischief exists and that the opportunities for mischief need to be limited to the absolute minimum possible.

My belief has nothing at all to do with the words spoken by the liars and thieves charging that other liars and thieves are lying and committing theft.

Why are you so incapable of understanding the words I write? Were you educated by the public schools system in America?
 
I believe the opportunity for mischief exists and that the opportunities for mischief need to be limited to the absolute minimum possible.

My belief has nothing at all to do with the words spoken by the liars and thieves charging that other liars and thieves are lying and committing theft.

Why are you so incapable of understanding the words I write? Were you educated by the public schools system in America?
Sure..you believe what the politicians...have told you.
I am perfectly capable of understanding the words you write..and perfectly capable of understanding your intellectual disconnect...while you sadly are unable to understand it.
That confusion you feel is why you feel the need to lash out with insults..since you are incapable of addressing the valid points I have made.
 
Sure..you believe what the politicians...have told you.
I am perfectly capable of understanding the words you write..and perfectly capable of understanding your intellectual disconnect...while you sadly are unable to understand it.
That confusion you feel is why you feel the need to lash out with insults..since you are incapable of addressing the valid points I have made.

The spending at all levels of government is out of control and is outlandishly out of control at the Federal Level.

My belief that this is true has nothing at all to do with what I am told by anyone. When money is stolen, somebody had to steal it. that's the way it works.

Do you think that every penny spent by all government entities is spent wisely with the greatest economy in mind?

I am hesitant to believe that stupidity can grip anyone with the strength that would promote the posts you write.

 
The spending at all levels of government is out of control and is outlandishly out of control at the Federal Level.

My belief that this is true has nothing at all to do with what I am told by anyone. When money is stolen, somebody had to steal it. that's the way it works.

Do you think that every penny spent by all government entities is spent wisely with the greatest economy in mind?

I am hesitant to believe that stupidity can grip anyone with the strength that would promote the posts you write.

Like I said ..all you have is insults because you are incapable of addressing the valid points I have made.
And now . You try to divert to government spending. Okay let's go there.
Nope..not every dollar the government spends is spent wisely. Why? Because of people like you.
You just advocated spending billions of dollars on a notary program on absentee voting...to solve a problem that you have zero evidence exists. If you want to understand why the government wastes money on stupid crap...
Go look in a mirror..you are the reason.
 
Like I said ..all you have is insults because you are incapable of addressing the valid points I have made.
And now . You try to divert to government spending. Okay let's go there.
Nope..not every dollar the government spends is spent wisely. Why? Because of people like you.
You just advocated spending billions of dollars on a notary program on absentee voting...to solve a problem that you have zero evidence exists. If you want to understand why the government wastes money on stupid crap...
Go look in a mirror..you are the reason.

My assertion is that there are many people working in our government who are not honest. I believe that most of the people working in our government are biased in favor of one particular party.

Do you disagree with those two points?
 
My assertion is that there are many people working in our government who are not honest. I believe that most of the people working in our government are biased in favor of one particular party.

Do you disagree with those two points?
Yes.. we are aware of your assertion. Which is why I ask you.. WHY DO YOU BELIEVE those same people.. that you think are liars and thieves.. when they tell you that there is systemic voter fraud.. when they offer NO PROOF? Why do you believe these liars,,, when if they win an election.. there is no fraud.. but suddenly if they lose an election.. the same process that they previously won under... is now "fraudulent".
Why do you want to give these liars.. MORE power to keep themselves in power by giving them greater power to determine who can vote or whose votes count?

Again.. please answer by addressing these questions.
 
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