http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news-mainstream-media/94279-wisconsin-republicans-vote-strip-public-worker-collective-bargaining-rights-withou-143.html#post1059355946
Why am I not surprised PB had no response and immediately changed tack?
You're kidding, Right?
Here is an article for you to read that's more on the topic of this tread: :mrgreen:
We Are All Wisconsinites Now | The Nation
So your entire problem is with "unionism?" Now that is funny but also that is their opinion and mine as well but regardless that isn't the point at all, nice diversion. What exactly in the comparison between public and private unions is wrong?
Unionism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
un·ion·ism (yny-nzm)
n.
1. The principle or theory of forming a union.
2. The principles, theory, or system of a union, especially a trade union.
So in other words you would rather deflect,than answer this question honestly "what is the difference between public Unions and private Unions"?Instead you come up with a lame ass attempt at deflection to Unionism.Weak sauce indeed.:mrgreen:
If that is the case then I have done my job in pointing out to all that care to see (in case there is someone that hasn’t seen any of your post) what a completely dishonest poster really are.:2wave:
Do you ask yourself questions much, Whovian?
You and your buddies on Wall Street have that mission. You guys came damn close in 2008.You challenged the author but ignored the content, says a lot about you. Get someone to help you read it then get back to me with you disagree with. The issue was the difference between public and private unions and everything in that article is absolutely correct.
Yep, talk about leftwing bulls***, that is it and that includes the content. You won't be happy until you and your ilk destroy the entire U.S. economy with your search for utopia and total dependence of the ignorant.
Only when people are too scared to respond.
You got PWNED, yet again... and chickened out of responding.
Only when people are too scared to respond.
You got PWNED, yet again... and chickened out of responding.
Don't you ever get tired of that sophomoric stuff? :roll:
Glad to see you, Whovian, I have been taking a lot of personal attacks today from the looney left. Thanks for being here.
You're kidding, Right?
Here is an article for you to read that's more on the topic of this tread: :mrgreen:
We Are All Wisconsinites Now | The Nation
How to Help in JapanWisconsin Rallies for Labor Rights and Economic DemocracyBritish It was, paradoxically, at once a significant loss for the protest movement in Wisconsin and a measure of its extraordinary success that Governor Scott Walker and his Republican allies had to resort to legislative legerdemain to pass their unpopular unionbusting measure on March 10. By separating the attack on collective bargaining from the budget bill, they ensured its passage, but they also stripped the veneer off their own agenda: this was never about budgets, and always about class war. As Michael Moore put it in his rousing speech to the crowd of tens of thousands who had assembled a few days before in Madison, “America is not broke…. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It’s just that it’s not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and portfolios of the über-rich.”
The article describes the differences and you have yet to refute anything in that article as being inaccurate, that is because you cannot so you divert. .
If you want to run and hide after taking an out of context post and running with it, go ahead. But before you go try to make at least one of your patented feeble attempts at answering what we were discussing. Which was… "What is the difference between public Unions and private Unions”?
As Michael Moore put it in his rousing speech to the crowd of tens of thousands who had assembled a few days before in Madison, “America is not broke…. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It’s just that it’s not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and portfolios of the über-rich.”
wrong cp, ....if the shop is already unionized when the a person applies for a job, and they are offered a job, THEY HAVE A CHOICE THEN, TO ACCEPT THE JOB, AND WORK IN A UNION SHOP, OR TO SAY 'NO THANKS, NOT WORKING IN A UNION SHOP'
and no, not unionizing can't be made a condition of employment, as that choice is a right of the worker, and protected by federal law.
This heist exactly was what?
Labor jobs not management...again Union labor are the only working americans making a halfway living wage with some security.
rich people made the poor people's lives better by building things like Walmarts and lowering their cost of living.
coming from Moore, though, the whole thing is rather rich.
that's a big stretch, even from Moore.
rich people made the poor people's lives better by building things like Walmarts and lowering their cost of living.
coming from Moore, though, the whole thing is rather rich.
Yeah, right! The rich CEO's of all the major corporations have their merchandise made in China and other places leaving the middle class without any manufacturing jobs. That is the heist.
stop, just stop already, you keep trotting this out, and it keeps getting smacked down....those 'union dues' come out of wages earned by the employee...you are implying that the employee hasnt earned this money, and that the state is just 'giving away' tax payer money to cover the dues...you know this is wrong, why on God's green earth do you keep trotting this line of bs out?You are missing a very important point and that is the benefits that the employee gets but doesn't pay for. Pension funds and healthcare funds are provided by the taxpayer for the employee and paid to the unions that manage both. That is a lot of money and a lot of control of taxpayer money. Also, in Wisconsin, the union dues are payroll deductions, not paid for by the employee. Payment of those dues comes from the taxpayer to the department to the unions.
In your example, yes all funding for union employees comes from the taxpayer just like all funding for private sector employees comes from the customer. Without taxpayers or customers where wouldn't be any employees thus no spending at McDonalds.
Important Differences Between Government and Private-Sector Unions [Mackinac Center]
Yeah, right! The rich CEO's of all the major corporations have their merchandise made in China and other places leaving the middle class without any manufacturing jobs. That is the heist.
stop, just stop already, you keep trotting this out, and it keeps getting smacked down....those 'union dues' come out of wages earned by the employee...you are implying that the employee hasnt earned this money, and that the state is just 'giving away' tax payer money to cover the dues...you know this is wrong, why on God's green earth do you keep trotting this line of bs out?
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