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Wisconsin forces women to get ultrasound!!!!!

Ok Cons, let us know when the government requires an x-ray before tooth extractions or cavity removal/fillings.
 
nota bene said:
Have you heard of an impacted wisdom tooth?
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That is not what was implied or claimed. Please do not change the argument. The article used for proof expresses that the X-ray is for determining alternatives, not for the safety of a patient in all extractions. Also, to determine a wisdom tooth is impacted and not some other dental problem may actually require an X-ray. These are for deterministic purposes to decide on treatment. Your analysis is wrong, and your supporters actually helped that argument to it's conclusion regarding the similarity of dental X-rays and a ultrasound in an abortion. Please feel free to come up with another argument that applies to make your case.
 
nota bene said:
Two little girls were holding these signs. Scroll down to see pic: The Conservative Meme of Satan-Loving Texas Pro-Choice Protesters Is a Bit Off - Elspeth Reeve - The Atlantic Wire
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we had one person at a tea party rally have one racist sign and the left contributes it to every tea party member to be racist. so stop with the selective outrage
also if you look further down the article they was forced to make a retraction about the kids holding up that vile sign so why should we believe any of the article?

Update: I read the date wrong. The photo is real! My apologies. The pro-choice activists appear to have let a kid hold that sign after all, which, gross.
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if a reporter cant get a date right why would you beleave it can get any of it right
 
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Etoner said:
Ok Cons, let us know when the government requires an x-ray before tooth extractions or cavity removal/fillings.
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It's not my analogy. I am not a DDS, but I do know that cavities are not removed, also that x-rays are necessary if the root of the tooth needs to be seen. And the AAOMS does work with Congress, HHS, and the FDA.
 
This isn't a regular sonogram.

The technician is required by law to tell the mother where the organs are and where the extremities are.

Whether he wants to or not. There is no medical necessity in this procedure.

Its about getting to pick on the mother one last time and let her know that she is killing her child.

Nice job, Cons.
 
Etoner said:
This isn't a regular sonogram.

The technician is required by law to tell the mother where the organs are and where the extremities are.

Whether he wants to or not. There is no medical necessity in this procedure.

Its about getting to pick on the mother one last time and let her know that she is killing her child.

Nice job, Cons.
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if the left is so sure it isn't human that you convinced your self and attempting to do with others why should it matter to you,
what are you scared of? that a women through that ultra sound decides that it is a human and chooses to not to abort? are you against that choice after more information is provided? is it not about choice?

through the decades the left has convinced women it is just a clump of cells it is time they learned the truth
and that is what your scared about
 
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trfjr said:
if the left is so sure it isn't human that you convinced your self and attempting to do with others why should it matter to you,
what are you scared of? that a women through that ultra sound decides that it is a human and chooses to not to abort? are you against that choice after more information is provided? is it not about choice?
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Not human? Of course its human!

What is it a cat? Dolphin? Oak tree?
 
trfjr said:
if the left is so sure it isn't human that you convinced your self and attempting to do with others why should it matter to you,
what are you scared of? that a women through that ultra sound decides that it is a human and chooses to not to abort? are you against that choice after more information is provided? is it not about choice?
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This bill is plain psychological warfare againist a mother wanting to make a decision about her own body.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Do the words "informed consent" have any meaning to you?
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The mother knows its a human being.

She knows it has arms, legs, feet, toes, fingers, eyes, ears nose.

She knows it has a heart, lungs, appendex.

What are you going to do if she refuses to look at the sonogam? Lock her head in place and her eyelids open????
 
Etoner said:
The mother knows its a human being.

She knows it has arms, legs, feet, toes, fingers, eyes, ears nose.

She knows it has a heart, lungs, appendex.

What are you going to do if she refuses to look at the sonogam? Lock her head in place and her eyelids open????
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Your view is contrarian to popular opinion in that a fetus might actually be somewhat human...
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
This bill is plain psychological warfare againist a mother wanting to make a decision about her own body.
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so more information is psychological warfare? if any one has committed psychological warfare are the pro-abortionist with their decade long campaign convincing women it is just a clump of cells. it is time they learn the truth it is a lot more then just a clump of cells
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Do the words "informed consent" have any meaning to you?
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Given the circumstances, "informed consent" appears to be nothing more than another way for Christians to stick their stinking snouts where they don't belong. Hi. Just saying.......................
 
Bonzai said:
Given the circumstances, "informed consent" appears to be nothing more than another way for Christians to stick their stinking snouts where they don't belong. Hi. Just saying.......................
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Good evening bonz. I'm just being a bit contrary this evening...
 
trfjr said:
so more information is psychological warfare? if any one has committed psychological warfare are the pro-abortionist with their decade long campaign convincing women it is just a clump of cells. it is time they learn the truth it is a lot more then just a clump of cells
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What are you going to do if she refuses to look at the sonogram?

Toss her in jail?
 
trfjr said:
so more information is psychological warfare? if any one has committed psychological warfare are the pro-abortionist with their decade long campaign convincing women it is just a clump of cells. it is time they learn the truth it is a lot more then just a clump of cells
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Don't you think the mother who wants to have a abortion does not know that? Why should society make decsions over one woman's choice to have a child or not?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Don't you think the mother who wants to have a abortion does not know that? Why should society make decsions over one woman's choice to have a child or not?
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Does society not make the decision over what she can do once it's popped out?
 
Planned Parenthood reassures women seeking abortion that it's "only tissue." If a woman doesn't have the opportunity to see what she is aborting, she may not be able to make an informed decision.

Surely, you want every woman who seeks an abortion to make an informed choice. Or are you afraid that if a woman sees the "product of conception," she will change her mind?

 
nota bene said:
Planned Parenthood reassures women seeking abortion that it's "only tissue." If a woman doesn't have the opportunity to see what she is aborting, she may not be able to make an informed decision.

Surely, you want every woman who seeks an abortion to make an informed choice. Or are you afraid that if a woman sees the "product of conception," she will change her mind?

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Ask me if I really care if a woman is so stupid as to be guilt tripped into rugrat hatching..............................
 
MaggieD said:
I won't argue with the first part of your post, but I will with the second. If a doctor is going to perform an abortion -- which isn't like a tooth extraction -- things can go wrong. With general anesthetic things can go wrong. With abortions, hemorrhaging can occur. If a doctor doesn't have admitting privileges, he may be reluctant to get her to the hospital. This is just common sense to me.
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Are doctors doing other procedures in clinics required to have admitting privileges at the nearest hospital?
 
The woman already knows the fetus is human.
In fact 61 percent of the women seeking abortions already have given birth to at least one child.
 
minnie616 said:
The woman already knows the fetus is human.
In fact 61 percent of the women seeking abortions already have given birth to at least one child.
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Given this, you're okay with destroying that human?
 
This is disgusting what these republicans are doing. Trying to shame women into not getting abortions
 
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