Will the Republican Tax Plan Work?

Will the Republican Tax Plan Work?

We have a big decision this fall; let the Republicans stay in power so they've no one to blame or try to fix what may not be wrong.

I want clear answers, not bias or trying to win argument.

What is the data presently showing? What has happened to the Obama growth trajectory? Are we seeing candy growth or substantial gains? Will the growth, foreign investment and returning business be enough to grow us out of our hole or should we go back to the Democrats?

Define "work".

Exquisitor said:

Will the Republican Tax Plan Work?

We have a big decision this fall; let the Republicans stay in power so they've no one to blame or try to fix what may not be wrong.

I want clear answers, not bias or trying to win argument.

What is the data presently showing? What has happened to the Obama growth trajectory? Are we seeing candy growth or substantial gains? Will the growth, foreign investment and returning business be enough to grow us out of our hole or should we go back to the Democrats?

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How much "returning business" has happened or has been announced?

Exquisitor said:

Will the Republican Tax Plan Work?

We have a big decision this fall; let the Republicans stay in power so they've no one to blame or try to fix what may not be wrong.

I want clear answers, not bias or trying to win argument.

What is the data presently showing? What has happened to the Obama growth trajectory? Are we seeing candy growth or substantial gains? Will the growth, foreign investment and returning business be enough to grow us out of our hole or should we go back to the Democrats?

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It will work, but not as well as it would have if Congress had passed every part of Trump's agenda.

Exquisitor said:

Will the Republican Tax Plan Work?

We have a big decision this fall; let the Republicans stay in power so they've no one to blame or try to fix what may not be wrong.

I want clear answers, not bias or trying to win argument.

What is the data presently showing? What has happened to the Obama growth trajectory? Are we seeing candy growth or substantial gains? Will the growth, foreign investment and returning business be enough to grow us out of our hole or should we go back to the Democrats?

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The Republicans did nothing but put trillions of dollars of tax cuts for the rich onto the national credit card. And remember, the House Republicans wanted to additionally punish homeowners, grad students, etc.

BTW it hasn't even worked that well. Trump?s Tax Cuts Didn?t Benefit U.S. Workers, Made Rich Companies Richer, Analysis Finds

Exquisitor said:

Will the Republican Tax Plan Work?

We have a big decision this fall; let the Republicans stay in power so they've no one to blame or try to fix what may not be wrong.

I want clear answers, not bias or trying to win argument.

What is the data presently showing? What has happened to the Obama growth trajectory? Are we seeing candy growth or substantial gains? Will the growth, foreign investment and returning business be enough to grow us out of our hole or should we go back to the Democrats?

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The right wing has nothing but socialism on a national basis. It is only a matter of time before Your guy's trade wars, catch up with us.

azgreg said:

Define "work".

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Fantastic I got five great comments.

You're the man. You're the man.

I'm going to have to think about this I'll get back to you.

Work means produce enough growth for us to grow out of our Debt. Means not stagnate or tank only crash.

But how do we pay the debt if we're maxed out and crashed? So if it crashes then plan B; go with the Democrats as soon as possible.

Amelia said:

How much "returning business" has happened or has been announced?

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Apple is coming in on the order of ten billion.

Mycroft said:

It will work, but not as well as it would have if Congress had passed every part of Trump's agenda.

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It's too late, the bill's already passed. Do you have any remedy you would like me to dictate to the Democrats?

Phys251 said:

The Republicans did nothing but put trillions of dollars of tax cuts for the rich onto the national credit card. And remember, the House Republicans wanted to additionally punish homeowners, grad students, etc.

BTW it hasn't even worked that well. Trump?s Tax Cuts Didn?t Benefit U.S. Workers, Made Rich Companies Richer, Analysis Finds

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Homeowners? Why should I tell you to get a house? But this in argument to Flat Tax, not this nonsense.

Rich companies can accomplish more, but are harder to keep up with, harder to control, have more power in Congress, have a greater capacity for destruction and evil, can put others out of business making more market share for themselves.

danielpalos said:

The right wing has nothing but socialism on a national basis. It is only a matter of time before Your guy's trade wars, catch up with us.

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Well, He is my guy (lol), but I've ****** him up so bad for how he would have acted if he had lost and for passing his tax reform. (I'm just Joshing with you)(go read 1 Peter 2:7,8 and Romans 9:33; I just learned these yesterday)

I'm not sure what you mean, the left are the socialists.

I think he's prudent and prudent to use his credit to do what he thinks will work, but will it? I believe everything else he's doing is prudent.

The only argument I see so far is that we don't like running up the Debt, but I don't hear the Democrats screaming as loudly as the Republicans did about the Debt so they're missing it. They're only screaming about Russia and these words don't mix as well as Benghazi and e-mail. No, Russia is alone and they have nothing to pin it to they should pin Russia to Debt, but they did have to keep borrowing with Obama because of the financial crisis he was handed.

Republicans are winning because of their God and the Godless Democrats are going to want to see the deed (try to get rid of Bible).

Exquisitor said:

Will the Republican Tax Plan Work?

We have a big decision this fall; let the Republicans stay in power so they've no one to blame or try to fix what may not be wrong.

I want clear answers, not bias or trying to win argument.

What is the data presently showing? What has happened to the Obama growth trajectory? Are we seeing candy growth or substantial gains? Will the growth, foreign investment and returning business be enough to grow us out of our hole or should we go back to the Democrats?

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No. Not unless the tax cuts either produce or happen to be serendipitously concurrent with a high level of sustained growth that provides continuous increased governmental revenue. Tax cuts must go hand in hand with spending cuts. Because the United States is presently engaging in massive deficit spending, because while tax cuts are popular, no one likes seeing their sacred cows sacrificed (the military, old-age pensions/single-payer medical insurance for the elderly, i.e. Medicare, etc.).

Without reigning in deficit spending, a failure to maintain a balanced budget will simply grow the debt to massive levels and increase the risk of either (1) a national debt default (which would be unlikely) or (2) the government simply printing currency to pay off the existing debt which results in hyperinflation (please see: Zimbabwe). Neither are good options. The only way this will work is if the United States government tackles entitlement reform. And by "reform" I mean cutting taxpayer dollars to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and privatizing these systems. In my opinion, the United States were to follow any other country's model with regard to our social safety nets (at least where retirement is concerned), our retirement system could stand to look more like Australia's.

Exquisitor said:

It's too late, the bill's already passed. Do you have any remedy you would like me to dictate to the Democrats?

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Nope.

The Democrats won't listen to you anyway.

Exquisitor said:

Fantastic I got five great comments.

You're the man. You're the man.

I'm going to have to think about this I'll get back to you.

Work means produce enough growth for us to grow out of our Debt. Means not stagnate or tank only crash.

But how do we pay the debt if we're maxed out and crashed? So if it crashes then plan B; go with the Democrats as soon as possible.



Apple is coming in on the order of ten billion.



It's too late, the bill's already passed. Do you have any remedy you would like me to dictate to the Democrats?



Homeowners? Why should I tell you to get a house? But this in argument to Flat Tax, not this nonsense.

Rich companies can accomplish more, but are harder to keep up with, harder to control, have more power in Congress, have a greater capacity for destruction and evil, can put others out of business making more market share for themselves.



Well, He is my guy (lol), but I've ****** him up so bad for how he would have acted if he had lost and for passing his tax reform. (I'm just Joshing with you)(go read 1 Peter 2:7,8 and Romans 9:33; I just learned these yesterday)

I'm not sure what you mean, the left are the socialists.

I think he's prudent and prudent to use his credit to do what he thinks will work, but will it? I believe everything else he's doing is prudent.

The only argument I see so far is that we don't like running up the Debt, but I don't hear the Democrats screaming as loudly as the Republicans did about the Debt so they're missing it. They're only screaming about Russia and these words don't mix as well as Benghazi and e-mail. No, Russia is alone and they have nothing to pin it to they should pin Russia to Debt, but they did have to keep borrowing with Obama because of the financial crisis he was handed.

Republicans are winning because of their God and the Godless Democrats are going to want to see the deed (try to get rid of Bible).

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I think my question was worth more than one line in a rapid-fire response to everyone in the thread. You say you want clear answers, and then you toss an offhand answer at me and include it in a wall of text written to other people.

I'll try one more time.

Thank you for the reminder about Apple's plans. Do we have any follow-up on their initial announcement? Have any other companies committed to bring business back to America?

And how does it compare to the businesses which are still leaving the country?


I don't expect an exhaustive answer, but if you actually know any specifics, I would appreciate hearing them.

Amelia said:

I think my question was worth more than one line in a rapid-fire response to everyone in the thread. You say you want clear answers, and then you toss an offhand answer at me and include it in a wall of text written to other people.

I'll try one more time.

Thank you for the reminder about Apple's plans. Do we have any follow-up on their initial announcement? Have any other companies committed to bring business back to America?

And how does it compare to the businesses which are still leaving the country?


I don't expect an exhaustive answer, but if you actually know any specifics, I would appreciate hearing them.

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Initially "returning business" was a category Trump hopes to fill.

I only heard someone trying to influence my opinion.

No, I don't know any specifics.

Felis Leo said:

No. Without reigning in spending, a failure to maintain a balanced budget will simply grow the debt to massive levels and increase the risk of either (1) a national debt default (which would be unlikely) or (2) the government simply printing currency to pay off the existing debt which results in hyperinflation (please see: Zimbabwe). Neither good options. The only way this will work is if the United States government tackles entitlement reform. And by "reform" I mean cutting taxpayer dollars to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and privatizing these systems. In my opinion, the United States were to follow any other country's model with regard to our social safety nets (at least where retirement is concerned), our retirement system could stand to look more like Australia's.

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Hey, I just got a picture of what you mean by corrupt (our Government).

I don't want to cut any of these, but we do need to cut health care and military costs by fifty percent.

Too bad I don't want to be President.

First thing is I want to take Putin up on that we walked away from salt II.

All Putin would have to do is point those nukes at me.

No, I really don't want to be President.

Then I make my de-nuked North Korea my depute and we go about policing the world.

No, I really can't run for President.

On the home front we gut the meat industry and tie off it's balls.

I'd be running on improving the quality of their beef.

Not by executive order, but by executive filibuster. I go slam gavel. I really don't have to say anything or have any input, I just let people talk and if they're nonsense or rhetoric or deception etc I slam my gavel (not literally).

Why should my federal dollars feed school children this? They should get this at home. Then you make it illegal to slaughter milk cows or use their progeny for veal. The excess cows produce manure for growing vegetables.

You can get phosphorus from the cow.

Little phosphorus in, lots of phosphorus out.

Phosphorus was first discovered by an alchemist clarifying Human urine.