Will the Joe Biden,Kamala Harris or their staff help pay the bail those who stormed the capital building like they did for the BLM rioters?

[jamesrage]

Will the Biden, Harris or their staff help pay the bail those who stormed the capital building like they did for the Black Lives Matter rioters?
Its a simple yes or no poll

Kamala Harris condemns riots weeks after promoting bail fund for rioters

Reaction from Republican congressional candidate Kimberly Klacik, New York Rep. Lee Zeldin, and civil rights attorney Leo Terrell.

news.yahoo.com

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.foxbusiness.com

I voted no. Because left wingers are only okay with left wing terrorists who loot riot, and burn down businesses and homes, and assault people. No one should be paying the bail of anyone who loots, riots, burns down buildings or any other acts of violence regardless of political affiliation.

 

[Mycroft]

Will the Biden, Harris or their staff help pay the bail those who stormed the capital building like they did for the Black Lives Matter rioters?
Its a simple yes or no poll

Kamala Harris condemns riots weeks after promoting bail fund for rioters

Reaction from Republican congressional candidate Kimberly Klacik, New York Rep. Lee Zeldin, and civil rights attorney Leo Terrell.

news.yahoo.com

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.foxbusiness.com

Of course not.

1. It would screw up their anti-Trump narrative attempts.
2. They don't want to admit that Antifa/BLM was involved.

 

[Arby]

The Dems started this attack on Conservatives before the presidential election...

Back in June of 2018, Maxine Waters said “Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere."

List: 15 Democratic attacks, assaults, threats on Republicans

The crude Saturday Night Live attack on the looks and battle-taken right eye of GOP House candidate Dan Crenshaw was just the latest attack and threat against Republicans this year by critics, some of whom have called for violence against their political opponents. Both sides have been talking...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

"Also in 2019, Tester said on MSNBC that the way to beat Trump in the election was to “punch him in the face.”
“I mean, the truth is this guy is bad for this country,”

Democrats have been advocating violence since Trump was elected. Also in 2018, Sen. @CoryBooker told activists to “get up in the face of some congresspeople”

Here are six videos of Democrats calling for violence or physical confrontations that are still active on Twitter - Washington Examiner

Videos of Democrats during the Trump administration calling for their supporters to confront Republicans physically or warning of “civil unrest” on the streets are still active on Twitter. Rep. Maxine Waters, Rep. Ted Lieu, Sen. Cory Booker, Rep. Joaquin Castro, Sen. Jon Tester, and House...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

The bottom line is Dems were promoting violence long before this assault on the capitol (which I don't condone).

Oh, and don't forget the June 2017 shooting of U.S. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise at a charity baseball game.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Will the Biden, Harris or their staff help pay the bail those who stormed the capital building like they did for the Black Lives Matter rioters?
Its a simple yes or no poll

Kamala Harris condemns riots weeks after promoting bail fund for rioters

Reaction from Republican congressional candidate Kimberly Klacik, New York Rep. Lee Zeldin, and civil rights attorney Leo Terrell.

news.yahoo.com

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.foxbusiness.com

I voted no. Because left wingers are only okay with left wing terrorists who loot riot, and burn down businesses and homes, and assault people. No one should be paying the bail of anyone who loots, riots, burns down buildings or any other acts of violence regardless of political affiliation.

Why would they? Those folks are white nationalist insurrectionists.

 

[roguenuke]

No, nor should they. Of course your links fail to explain that they are actually giving to non-profits that bail pretty much anyone out who doesn't have the means, stating that they believe in "innocent until proven guilty" and noting that judges granted a bail amount for these people.

Did Biden Staffers Contribute to a Protester-Bailout Fund?

Following the arrests of anti-police-brutality protesters, a bailout assistance organization received more than $20 million in donations over four days.

www.snopes.com

What they did not do was simply go there and bail out these people that were arrested for looting, violence, etc. What they did do was donate to an organization that makes the call on who can utilize their charitable donations for bail. If there is one of these in DC, they may have already donated to it and there may be some that could be used for these Capitol stormers, insurrectionists.

Mind you, I don't necessarily agree with this, because it should be a burden on the person. At the same time, people who are well off are able to pay such bails without much issue and others beg and borrow from friends or bail bondsmen. This isn't really that different.

 

[molten_dragon]

Can you get out on bail if you're charged with insurrection or seditious conspiracy?

 

[jamesrage]

No, nor should they. Of course your links fail to explain that they are actually giving to non-profits that bail pretty much anyone out who doesn't have the means, stating that they believe in "innocent until proven guilty" and noting that judges granted a bail amount for these people.

Did Biden Staffers Contribute to a Protester-Bailout Fund?

Following the arrests of anti-police-brutality protesters, a bailout assistance organization received more than $20 million in donations over four days.

www.snopes.com

What they did not do was simply go there and bail out these people that were arrested for looting, violence, etc. What they did do was donate to an organization that makes the call on who can utilize their charitable donations for bail. If there is one of these in DC, they may have already donated to it and there may be some that could be used for these Capitol stormers, insurrectionists.

Mind you, I don't necessarily agree with this, because it should be a burden on the person. At the same time, people who are well off are able to pay such bails without much issue and others beg and borrow from friends or bail bondsmen. This isn't really that different.

The fact they used a middleman or 3rd party to bail out the rioters does not absolve them of bailing out the rioters and looters.

 

[roguenuke]

The fact they used a middleman or 3rd party to bail out the rioters does not absolve them of bailing out the rioters and looters.

It changes what they were doing. They were not themselves picking out who was being "bailed out". They were donating to a nonprofit that makes those decisions. But the facts are that you don't know who did what, when or where, and bail only means that they get to be out of jail before they go to trial for any illegal acts committed. Some will be bailed out by this nonprofit, others can pay their own way, some will get a bail bondsman to help them, others will get help from their family. How is any of that illegal? How is it different than Kyle Rittenhouse getting donations for his bail?

 

[jamesrage]

It changes what they were doing. They were not themselves picking out who was being "bailed out". They were donating to a nonprofit that makes those decisions. But the facts are that you don't know who did what, when or where, and bail only means that they get to be out of jail before they go to trial for any illegal acts committed. Some will be bailed out by this nonprofit, others can pay their own way, some will get a bail bondsman to help them, others will get help from their family. How is any of that illegal? How is it different than Kyle Rittenhouse getting donations for his bail?

When they donated that money who did they think was going to be bailed out? It sure as hell wasn't jaywalkers. It was the rioters, arsonist and other violent criminal scum.

 

[SMTA]

Of course not.

1. It would screw up their anti-Trump narrative attempts.
2. They don't want to admit that Antifa/BLM was involved.

1) **** Trump
2) no they were not - just good old moronic Trump zombies

 

[roguenuke]

When they donated that money who did they think was going to be bailed out? It sure as hell wasn't jaywalkers. It was the rioters, arsonist and other violent criminal scum.

Protestors were arrested in large numbers, many of whom were not actually involved in violence or rioting, but rather in violating curfews or in the area where such violence occurred (were not themselves involved though). But a judge somewhere still had to say "bail is set at ..." which gives them the opportunity to get out while waiting for their court date to come up.

Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply here? You do realize that bail comes before anyone can be called "guilty", right?

 

[j brown's body]

No, nor should they. Of course your links fail to explain that they are actually giving to non-profits that bail pretty much anyone out who doesn't have the means, stating that they believe in "innocent until proven guilty" and noting that judges granted a bail amount for these people.

Did Biden Staffers Contribute to a Protester-Bailout Fund?

Following the arrests of anti-police-brutality protesters, a bailout assistance organization received more than $20 million in donations over four days.

www.snopes.com

What they did not do was simply go there and bail out these people that were arrested for looting, violence, etc. What they did do was donate to an organization that makes the call on who can utilize their charitable donations for bail. If there is one of these in DC, they may have already donated to it and there may be some that could be used for these Capitol stormers, insurrectionists.

Mind you, I don't necessarily agree with this, because it should be a burden on the person. At the same time, people who are well off are able to pay such bails without much issue and others beg and borrow from friends or bail bondsmen. This isn't really that different.

Thats quite a distinction from bailing out insurrectionists.

 

[roguenuke]

Thats quite a distinction from bailing out insurrectionists.

It's possible that there is a similar type of nonprofit in the DC area who may even be willing to post bail for some of these Trump supporting insurrectionists, but that is just saying it is possible, highly unlikely though.

As I said, I don't necessarily agree with their stance, but they have a right to do it, and it certainly isn't something I care enough about either way to cry foul over, especially not when conservatives will bail out someone like Rittenhouse directly, pay all of his legal fees.

 

[What if...?]

Will the Biden, Harris or their staff help pay the bail those who stormed the capital building like they did for the Black Lives Matter rioters?
Its a simple yes or no poll

Kamala Harris condemns riots weeks after promoting bail fund for rioters

Reaction from Republican congressional candidate Kimberly Klacik, New York Rep. Lee Zeldin, and civil rights attorney Leo Terrell.

news.yahoo.com

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.foxbusiness.com

I voted no. Because left wingers are only okay with left wing terrorists who loot riot, and burn down businesses and homes, and assault people. No one should be paying the bail of anyone who loots, riots, burns down buildings or any other acts of violence regardless of political affiliation.

Did the three bears dress up as grandma and kiss the sleeping princess.

That's the real question facing us in this crisis.

Yall's narrative managers suck balls. This bullshit is weak as Shit.

Get back to us when you get some better material.

This shit is insulting.

 

[rocket88]

Will the Biden, Harris or their staff help pay the bail those who stormed the capital building like they did for the Black Lives Matter rioters?
Its a simple yes or no poll

Kamala Harris condemns riots weeks after promoting bail fund for rioters

Reaction from Republican congressional candidate Kimberly Klacik, New York Rep. Lee Zeldin, and civil rights attorney Leo Terrell.

news.yahoo.com

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.foxbusiness.com

I voted no. Because left wingers are only okay with left wing terrorists who loot riot, and burn down businesses and homes, and assault people. No one should be paying the bail of anyone who loots, riots, burns down buildings or any other acts of violence regardless of political affiliation.

Will Trump say to shoot them all like he did with the BLM protestors? Will you all be cheering while it happens?

Or is the right a bunch of hypocrites aka "it was different, Orange Man is God"

 

[post]

No, nor should they. Of course your links fail to explain that they are actually giving to non-profits that bail pretty much anyone out who doesn't have the means, stating that they believe in "innocent until proven guilty" and noting that judges granted a bail amount for these people.

Did Biden Staffers Contribute to a Protester-Bailout Fund?

Following the arrests of anti-police-brutality protesters, a bailout assistance organization received more than $20 million in donations over four days.

www.snopes.com

What they did not do was simply go there and bail out these people that were arrested for looting, violence, etc. What they did do was donate to an organization that makes the call on who can utilize their charitable donations for bail. If there is one of these in DC, they may have already donated to it and there may be some that could be used for these Capitol stormers, insurrectionists.

Mind you, I don't necessarily agree with this, because it should be a burden on the person. At the same time, people who are well off are able to pay such bails without much issue and others beg and borrow from friends or bail bondsmen. This isn't really that different.

The first link in the OP, "yahoo news" was actually a faux news/ Washington Examiner, right wing extremist, "hit piece".

The worn out "equivalency" whataboutism attempt to put lipstick on "the pig", Trump's anti-American campaign of lies intended to shit all over the American, uninterrupted, peaceful transition of presidential power is actually sickening to observe, and this thread's OP is no exception! It is no different than Trump's own denialism. The only equivalent in U.S. history was the reaction to Lincoln's election by the slavers and other supporters of slavery.

What is intentionally overlooked is that Trump and Sessions "lit the match" of what happened in U.S. cities last summer, willfully in the spirit of both men's nortorious white supremacy sympathies.

I laid out, with numerous supporting links, how these white supremacists bastards, Trump and Sessions, reaped exactly what they sowed.: (The entire quoted post is available at the quote link...)

COTO, you want "unity"? On his way out the door, Sessions, with Trump's support, after they worked to re-militarize police, undid all
reforms in reaction to Ferguson, MO protests and the DOJ investigation that revealed Ferguson police "harvested" their operating budget
through oppression of the predominately black community.

The DOJ report on the Ferguson Police Department verifies this in stunning detail: .... 105 PAGES, read it!

IOW, "no justice, no peace"....

.......

The reaction of democrats, Trump was beaten like an ole rug by a coalition of 40 percent of white voters and voters of color, with a prominent "get out the vote" extraordinary effort by black women, was to Sessions, with Trump's support, setting up a regressive, "no justice" DOJ Civil Rights policy and actions, resulting in numerous protests.

No Justice - No Peace

 

[Ikari]

The Dems started this attack on Conservatives before the presidential election...

Back in June of 2018, Maxine Waters said “Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere."

List: 15 Democratic attacks, assaults, threats on Republicans

The crude Saturday Night Live attack on the looks and battle-taken right eye of GOP House candidate Dan Crenshaw was just the latest attack and threat against Republicans this year by critics, some of whom have called for violence against their political opponents. Both sides have been talking...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

"Also in 2019, Tester said on MSNBC that the way to beat Trump in the election was to “punch him in the face.”
“I mean, the truth is this guy is bad for this country,”

Democrats have been advocating violence since Trump was elected. Also in 2018, Sen. @CoryBooker told activists to “get up in the face of some congresspeople”

Here are six videos of Democrats calling for violence or physical confrontations that are still active on Twitter - Washington Examiner

Videos of Democrats during the Trump administration calling for their supporters to confront Republicans physically or warning of “civil unrest” on the streets are still active on Twitter. Rep. Maxine Waters, Rep. Ted Lieu, Sen. Cory Booker, Rep. Joaquin Castro, Sen. Jon Tester, and House...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

The bottom line is Dems were promoting violence long before this assault on the capitol (which I don't condone).

Oh, and don't forget the June 2017 shooting of U.S. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise at a charity baseball game.

Yes, well clearly that is grounds for insurrection.

 

[iliveonramen]

Poor people rot in jail for that year or so til their trial while those with means get out on bail. Welcome to America.

 

[Arby]

Yes, well clearly that is grounds for insurrection.

No, it's not. But it was taken directly from the Democrat's own playbook, wasn't it?

 

[CLAX1911]

Will the Biden, Harris or their staff help pay the bail those who stormed the capital building like they did for the Black Lives Matter rioters?
Its a simple yes or no poll

Kamala Harris condemns riots weeks after promoting bail fund for rioters

Reaction from Republican congressional candidate Kimberly Klacik, New York Rep. Lee Zeldin, and civil rights attorney Leo Terrell.

news.yahoo.com

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.foxbusiness.com

I voted no. Because left wingers are only okay with left wing terrorists who loot riot, and burn down businesses and homes, and assault people. No one should be paying the bail of anyone who loots, riots, burns down buildings or any other acts of violence regardless of political affiliation.

Will they bail them out to BLM and antifa people that were there yes. they might set up a firing squad for everyone else.

 

[Jason Warfield]

No. Here's why...

Biden and others contributed to a fund that helped to pay for protesters largely because they felt the actions of the police were not warranted in some cases (I'm simply stating the why, not justifying). Further, the protests were about police brutality and systemic racism. While laws WERE broken, the courts set up bail and the fund was for those who did not have the resources for bail.

The folks who stormed the Capitol were doing something far worse than protesting: they were trying to overthrow an election and the government. Some of those arrested may not get bail for their acts of insurrection. Their acts are not the same and worse than what the BLM protesters did.

The two groups are not equal in the severity of their acts. BLM did do property damage but was not intent on overthrowing the government. The thugs who laid siege to the Capitol were trying to overthrow the government by illegally stopping the due process of an election with force, aka insurrection.

While one can argue the merits of bail for protesters who did not actively try to overthrow the government, you can't argue a position of good merit for providing bail to those who are insurrectionists.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

Will the Biden, Harris or their staff help pay the bail those who stormed the capital building like they did for the Black Lives Matter rioters?
Its a simple yes or no poll

Kamala Harris condemns riots weeks after promoting bail fund for rioters

Reaction from Republican congressional candidate Kimberly Klacik, New York Rep. Lee Zeldin, and civil rights attorney Leo Terrell.

news.yahoo.com

Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis

Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city's police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

www.foxbusiness.com

I voted no. Because left wingers are only okay with left wing terrorists who loot riot, and burn down businesses and homes, and assault people. No one should be paying the bail of anyone who loots, riots, burns down buildings or any other acts of violence regardless of political affiliation.

FFS just keep beating that divisive drum.

 

[skeptic llc]

I think Trump has already called them patriots and said he loved them. So no, not the way he felt about BLM. And it turns out "protecting federal property" isn't actually as important to Trumpers as they claimed last summer.

 

[notquiteright]

I voted no. Because left wingers are only okay with left wing terrorists who loot riot, and burn down businesses and homes, and assault people. No one should be paying the bail of anyone who loots, riots, burns down buildings or any other acts of violence regardless of political affiliation.

Right wingers can't tell the difference between protesters and rioters, protesters and insurrectionists...

Now did Biden or Harris bail out any of those accused of burning down buildings??? Facts, not rants please.... ✌

 

[CLAX1911]

No. Here's why...

Biden and others contributed to a fund that helped to pay for protesters largely because they felt the actions of the police were not warranted in some cases (I'm simply stating the why, not justifying). Further, the protests were about police brutality and systemic racism. While laws WERE broken, the courts set up bail and the fund was for those who did not have the resources for bail.

The folks who stormed the Capitol were doing something far worse than protesting: they were trying to overthrow an election and the government. Some of those arrested may not get bail for their acts of insurrection. Their acts are not the same and worse than what the BLM protesters did.

The two groups are not equal in the severity of their acts. BLM did do property damage but was not intent on overthrowing the government. The thugs who laid siege to the Capitol were trying to overthrow the government by illegally stopping the due process of an election with force, aka insurrection.

While one can argue the merits of bail for protesters who did not actively try to overthrow the government, you can't argue a position of good merit for providing bail to those who are insurrectionists.

Nobody is ever talking about BLM protests. It's always the riots. That's why people get arrested. Refusal to acknowledge the BLM riots or mistakenly calling them protests is dishonest.