Will the Dem's see the light?

[Topsez]

Do you agree there is a point that the Democratic Party can push the funding of the Iraq War?

In the House of Representatives Nancy had to buy votes and beg votes from those who wanted to give zero funds to the war... with a veto on the bill, with pork removed to buy votes will Nancy go to zero funding or support exactly what the President is asking congress for.

In the Senate the Majority leader is threatening to cut off funds if the Prez veto's the offered defeat funding bill.

First, I don't think Nancy can get anything cutting off or clean funding from her members which means she either has to try to cut funding which some Blue Dogs will vote against or promote a bill that fully funds as asked by the president.

In the Senate Harry doesn't have a chance of passing a cutting off funds bill... Senator Liberman would switch parties first giving the majority to the Republicans first.

So, can you see anything other than a clean Iraq War Emergency funding bill with left and right pork in it at this point? Please explain how it could end otherwise?

 

[Navy Pride]

I personally believe the democrats will blink on this bill....They know what if they cut off funding to the troops it will put them in harms way......Although I believe many of their leaders are anti military (Murtha, Kerry, Durbin come to mind) I don't believe the majority of democrats want to endanger our troops......

 

[Topsez]

I personally believe the democrats will blink on this bill....They know what if they cut off funding to the troops it will put them in harms way......Although I believe many of their leaders are anti military (Murtha, Kerry, Durbin come to mind) I don't believe the majority of democrats want to endanger our troops......

I think they have already painted themselves into a corner and underestimate Prez Bush... When Bush veto's and veto's again and tells the nation the Dem's have a choice to fund the troops or take credit for failure they will fund and then if there is positive progress the Dem's will look double weak and weak on foreign policy.

 

[BWG]

I think they have already painted themselves into a corner and underestimate Prez Bush... When Bush veto's and veto's again and tells the nation the Democrat's have a choice to fund the troops or take credit for failure they will fund and then if there is positive progress the Democrat's will look double weak and weak on foreign policy.

CONGRESS has funded the troops. It's up to the President to sign or not sign.
The bill is sent from Congress, not Democrats or Republicans.

110th Congress

House of Representatives
Republicans 201
Democrats 233

Senate
Republicans 49
Democrats 49
Independents 2

To say that Congress will put the troops in harms way is just another 'fear' talking point from this administration.

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 14, 2005
Dear Mr. Speaker:
Today, I am submitting a request for fiscal year 2005 supplemental appropriations of $81.9 billion for ongoing military and intelligence operations in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and selected other international activities, including tsunami relief and reconstruction. This request reflects urgent and essential requirements. I ask the Congress to appropriate the funds as requested and promptly send the bill to me for signature.

On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, the President signed into law:
H.R. 1268, the "Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005"

86 days

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 16, 2006
Dear Mr. Speaker:
Today, I am submitting a request for Fiscal Year 2006 supplemental appropriations of $72.4 billion for ongoing military and intelligence operations in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and selected other international activities.

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
June 15, 2006
Today, I have signed into law H.R. 4939, the "Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Hurricane Recovery, 2006."

To the Republic lead Congress after 119 days:

"I applaud those Members of Congress who came together in a fiscally responsible way to provide much-needed funds for the War on Terror.” - GWB

To the Democratic lead Congress after 57 days:

"In a time of war it’s irresponsible for the Democratic leadership in Congress to delay for months on end while our troops in combat are waiting for the funds." - GWB

The UNITER has spoken

 

[Topsez]

CONGRESS has funded the troops. It's up to the President to sign or not sign.
The bill is sent from Congress, not Democrats or Republicans.

110th Congress

House of Representatives
Republicans 201
Democrats 233

Senate
Republicans 49
Democrats 49
Independents 2

To say that Congress will put the troops in harms way is just another 'fear' talking point from this administration.

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 14, 2005
Dear Mr. Speaker:
Today, I am submitting a request for fiscal year 2005 supplemental appropriations of $81.9 billion for ongoing military and intelligence operations in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and selected other international activities, including tsunami relief and reconstruction. This request reflects urgent and essential requirements. I ask the Congress to appropriate the funds as requested and promptly send the bill to me for signature.

On Wednesday, May 11, 2005, the President signed into law:
H.R. 1268, the "Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005"

86 days

THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 16, 2006
Dear Mr. Speaker:
Today, I am submitting a request for Fiscal Year 2006 supplemental appropriations of $72.4 billion for ongoing military and intelligence operations in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and selected other international activities.

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
June 15, 2006
Today, I have signed into law H.R. 4939, the "Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Hurricane Recovery, 2006."

To the Republic lead Congress after 119 days:

"I applaud those Members of Congress who came together in a fiscally responsible way to provide much-needed funds for the War on Terror.” - GWB

To the Democratic lead Congress after 57 days:

"In a time of war it’s irresponsible for the Democratic leadership in Congress to delay for months on end while our troops in combat are waiting for the funds." - GWB

The UNITER has spoken

Clearly he will sign it but as a veto... he has stated that weeks ago... The new congress with all of its oversight is well aware of when troops and troop readiness will be affected. I think the oversight revealed mid April would be a date lack of the funding would start the requirement for re shuffling funds (this costs tax dollars) to meet mission requirements.

Congress will be in a postion to either cut off funds or fund in a manner acceptable to the president. The American people will not forgive the Democratic majority for leaving the troops in harms way unfunded... they will blame the congress and not the president because the congress is clearly violating the US constitution by playing the Commander in Chief's role in funding legislation.

 

[Iriemon]

Clearly he will sign it but as a veto... he has stated that weeks ago... The new congress with all of its oversight is well aware of when troops and troop readiness will be affected. I think the oversight revealed mid April would be a date lack of the funding would start the requirement for re shuffling funds (this costs tax dollars) to meet mission requirements.

Congress will be in a postion to either cut off funds or fund in a manner acceptable to the president. The American people will not forgive the Democratic majority for leaving the troops in harms way unfunded... they will blame the congress and not the president because the congress is clearly violating the US constitution by playing the Commander in Chief's role in funding legislation.

I'm not sure why the American people will not forgive the Democrats when it is the President who vetoed the funding bill because he didn't like the conditions.

Personally, as one of the American people, I will blame Bush if he fails to sign the funding bill and leaves the troops without funding.

 

[Topsez]

I'm not sure why the American people will not forgive the Democrats when it is the President who vetoed the funding bill because he didn't like the conditions.

Personally, as one of the American people, I will blame Bush if he fails to sign the funding bill and leaves the troops without funding.

A majority of Americans do not agree with an immediate withdraw from Iraq. Because the president is the Commander in Chief and not the Congress he can state if congress is not funding to meet his strategy then he will be forced to evacuate the troops thus blaming the congress for the following circumstances.

One could say then the president should compromise with congress but why should he? He desires victory and thinks victory is possible... the congress only offers defeat with a timetable... if you are going to lose then lose quick so soldiers don't die for politics... but in real life the Democrats are not willing to buy Bush's war and the hell that would follow when we retreat quickly.

There is absolutly no reason Bush should compromise! None, nada, nilch...it only aids those against him, his agenda, America's agenda to be victorious in any conflict entered... to agree to a cutoff date is to agree that any armed force person that dies past that agreement is for politics...politics lubricated by KY Jelly liberal defeat over time. If you feel defeated then end the war... For Bush to not fund for victory is defeat so return the troops home but by authority of a majority that caused it. Bush will not appologize to moms and dads of dead and wounded soldiers that Democrats politically demand die and be wounded so the war remains in Bush's responsibility. The Dem's want out vote out... the Dem's want to manage the war... get elected president.