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Will Segregation Prevent Racism?

Will Segregation Prevent Racism?

  • Yes, how can you be a racist living with those of the same race?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes, I've lived in a segregated city with no racism in sight

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • No, other races will be sneaking in your neighborhoods to incite racism

    Votes: 7 87.5%

  • Total voters
    8
***I'm already famous in my own mind. That's enough for now.

I'm actually rather well known in my mind too, now that you mention it.

And for your information, Kid, I've already seen the stars. I know them quite well, actually. Nearly as well as I know myself.

But enough about me. Good luck, kid. And be happy. And I glad that being famous in your own mind is enough for you, because...

Keep in mind, Kid, you don't know me. I don't know you any better than this, any better than here.


Duke
 
I'm actually rather well known in my mind too, now that you mention it.

And for your information, Kid, I've already seen the stars. I know them quite well, actually. Nearly as well as I know myself.

But enough about me. Good luck, kid. And be happy. And I glad that being famous in your own mind is enough for you, because...

Keep in mind, Kid, you don't know me. I don't know you any better than this, any better than here.


Duke


***You're right, I don't know you, but for having the name of my good friend David Duke--you can't be all that bad, especially if you share his political ideology.
 
***Could you elaborate somewhat on each of your reasons for not liking segregation?

Because we are all one family under the sun and should celebrate our brothers and sisters and the difference's everyone has, not try to suffocate it. I love everyone despite their race, religion, or ethnicity. It's when you prove to me you are a jerk is when I start not liking you.

dur, segragation only serves to point out people's differences and creates racism. Be color blind kid and the world will open up to you.
 
***You're right, I don't know you, but for having the name of my good friend David Duke--you can't be all that bad, especially if you share his political ideology.

No relation.....

But are you a fan of D D, the other Duke? This one?

David-Duke-pix-2.jpg


Hmm. I'm not quite surprised.


Duke
 
Because we are all one family under the sun and should celebrate our brothers and sisters and the difference's everyone has, not try to suffocate it. I love everyone despite their race, religion, or ethnicity. It's when you prove to me you are a jerk is when I start not liking you.

dur, segragation only serves to point out people's differences and creates racism. Be color blind kid and the world will open up to you.

I agree! Any type of segregation, whether voluntary or involuntary, just promotes the idea that skin color is a bigger deal than hair or eye color. I don't think TV shows, contests, magazines, schools, ect should promote the idea that you belong to a certain group based on the color of your skin. It's just ridiculous.
 
Oh God, I've been waiting for someone to say that, Talloulou! Thank you, thank you, thank you!


Duke
 
Because we are all one family under the sun and should celebrate our brothers and sisters and the difference's everyone has, not try to suffocate it. I love everyone despite their race, religion, or ethnicity. It's when you prove to me you are a jerk is when I start not liking you.


***That would be a nice ideal if it were that easy to celebrate each one's difference. Many problems with that exercise. First, most people would just soon promote or celebrate their own culture over that of others, or that of the American culture. The problem with the attempt to celebrate these multi cultures in the United States, is that many of these mixed aculturated peoples refuse to accept, defend, promote or fully assimilate to the American culture--thus the reason for racial tension and racism. I love everyone despite their race, religion or ethnicity as well, but it remains my opinion that peaceful/approved segregation is the answer to fully eliminating racism.

dur, segragation only serves to point out people's differences and creates racism. Be color blind kid and the world will open up to you.

***Segregation only serves to point out people's differences and creates racism? That statement is so untrue, in fact segregation prevents racism. How does pointing out one's differences create racism? Again, how in the world can you have racism if everyone living in a particular neighborhood is of the same race? Its when you mix (integrate) the races that you open up the chance for there to be racism. This is just common sense. Please remember the forced bussing (desegregation) issue of Boston in 1972-73 when black kids were forced to bus with white kids. Racial tension and racial crime hit a peak during that time. There was little if no racial crime when Irish kids lived together in neighborhoods, and rode buses with one another. When black kids were forced to desegregate by bussing with white kids--the race wars began. So don't tell me that mixing races as opposed to seperating races will bring some kind of racial harmony. It helps to be a realist and to have lived through the experience of racial unrest as I have before rendering a decision on the pros & cons of segregation.
 
I agree! Any type of segregation, whether voluntary or involuntary, just promotes the idea that skin color is a bigger deal than hair or eye color. I don't think TV shows, contests, magazines, schools, ect should promote the idea that you belong to a certain group based on the color of your skin. It's just ridiculous.


***You gals are missing the point here. Who in the world is talking about TV shows, contests, magazines or schools when considering living where one feels most comfortable? You and the American Woman seem to want to find ways in which to highlight or bring attention to racial differences. Can't you see that people living in a chosen segregated community will have no need to constantly question, or constantly compare, or constantly feel like the target of a possible racial injustice? None of these outside factors will have any weight in deciding who should live where due to skin color, for everyone's skin color will be the same, and everyone living in their racially compatible communities--will do so at their own desire. This isn't exactly rocket science here.
 
***Segregation only serves to point out people's differences and creates racism? That statement is so untrue, in fact segregation prevents racist.

Saying segregation prevents racism is like saying an ocean can prevent terrorists attacks. The mentality is still there. The idea is still there.

How does pointing out one's differences create racism? Again, how in the world can you have racism if everyone living in a particular neighborhood is of the same race?

See above.

Its when you mix (integrate) the races that you open up the chance for there to be racism.

Wrong. It's when you allow prejudice to reign over your mind instead of reason

Racial tension and racial crime hit a peak during that time.

This is an expected side effect when one tries to alter a system. There will be some resistance at first and then eventually cooler heads prevail. Thankfully.

There was little if no racial crime when Irish kids lived together in neighborhoods, and rode buses with one another.

Thats because most of the violence was going on with the big dogs. Irish mob wars ring a bell?

Irish Mob Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When black kids were forced to desegregate by bussing with white kids--the race wars began.

Do tell about these race wars a.k.a. William Luther Pierce III's paranoia.

So don't tell me that mixing races as opposed to seperating races will bring some kind of racial harmony. It helps to be a realist and to have lived through the experience of racial unrest as I have before rendering a decision on the pros & cons of segregation.

You have issues my friend.
 
When black kids were forced to desegregate by bussing with white kids--the race wars began.
And here I thought it began when they were kidnapped from their countries in Africa and forced to travel the ocean and become slaves :roll:
Ignorance causes racism. And what is ignorance, it's unfamiliarity, it's not being curious, interested or educated about other cultures and what causes that..well segregation does.
Segregation is for the boring, the cowardly, the ignorant. It's foolishness.
 
***You gals are missing the point here. Who in the world is talking about TV shows, contests, magazines or schools when considering living where one feels most comfortable? You and the American Woman seem to want to find ways in which to highlight or bring attention to racial differences. Can't you see that people living in a chosen segregated community will have no need to constantly question, or constantly compare, or constantly feel like the target of a possible racial injustice? None of these outside factors will have any weight in deciding who should live where due to skin color, for everyone's skin color will be the same, and everyone living in their racially compatible communities--will do so at their own desire. This isn't exactly rocket science here.


The problem with this is that people must interact with others outside of their community and if all they have to compare is people like themselves they will have little tolerance for those out side of the community.
 
***You gals are missing the point here. Who in the world is talking about TV shows, contests, magazines or schools when considering living where one feels most comfortable? You and the American Woman seem to want to find ways in which to highlight or bring attention to racial differences. Can't you see that people living in a chosen segregated community will have no need to constantly question, or constantly compare, or constantly feel like the target of a possible racial injustice? None of these outside factors will have any weight in deciding who should live where due to skin color, for everyone's skin color will be the same, and everyone living in their racially compatible communities--will do so at their own desire. This isn't exactly rocket science here.

Well the modern global world is just far too small for you to hole yourself up all isolated and $hit with likeminded throwbacks to a bygone era. Skin color is a really pointless way to organize people. Now if all men with monster pee pees want to live in one huge schlong city that would be equally silly and yet oddly informative. :mrgreen:
 
Well the modern global world is just far too small for you to hole yourself up all isolated and $hit with likeminded throwbacks to a bygone era. Skin color is a really pointless way to organize people. Now if all men with monster pee pees want to live in one huge schlong city that would be equally silly and yet oddly informative. :mrgreen:


***likeminded throwbacks to a bygone era? How dare you call the fine segregated people living in Harlem and Watts...a bunch of likeminded throwbacks to a bygone era. You need to apologize for your racist statement, then you need to stop thinking in terms of a global culture, and start thinking like an American where we have and govern ourselves as Americans first and foremost. I'm surprised that you being a conservative haven't yet picked up on the importance of being an American--having and living by the American tradition as outlined to us by our forefathers. You want to promote multiculturalism/desegregation; may I suggest you move to the border of Arizona or Southern California to get a first hand view of Mexican/American racism as it unfolds on a daily basis. Perhaps we could find you a home on the Mexican/American border where you could pull service as a kind multicultural peace negotiater between two races of people that have differing goals in mind. What do you say talloulou....you up for the job?
 
***likeminded throwbacks to a bygone era? How dare you call the fine segregated people living in Harlem and Watts...a bunch of likeminded throwbacks to a bygone era. You need to apologize for your racist statement, then you need to stop thinking in terms of a global culture, and start thinking like an American where we have and govern ourselves as Americans first and foremost. I'm surprised that you being a conservative haven't yet picked up on the importance of being an American--having and living by the American tradition as outlined to us by our forefathers. You want to promote multiculturalism/desegregation; may I suggest you move to the border of Arizona or Southern California to get a first hand view of Mexican/American racism as it unfolds on a daily basis. Perhaps we could find you a home on the Mexican/American border where you could pull service as a kind multicultural peace negotiater between two races of people that have differing goals in mind. What do you say talloulou....you up for the job?

Harlem and Watts? You do know there are white people who live in Harlem right?
 
Harlem and Watts? You do know there are white people who live in Harlem right?


**Great! I bet there are a few whites living on an Indian reservation as well. What's your point? How do you think the multicultural experiment between the Bloods & Crypts is going? Could be a little racism going on throughout those gangs. How do you think the desegregation in our federal prisons is working out, when you have various Chicano, Black, White, Latino and neo Nazi gangs taking showers together?
 
Racism will be prevented when all groups realize that they are no better than any other. I fail to see how segregation is gonna bring that about. :2wave:
 
**Great! I bet there are a few whites living on an Indian reservation as well. What's your point?

It's not "a few whites" that live in Harlem. There are actually a lot of wealthy white New Yorkers moving into Harlem. This is due to the fact that most Manhattan and Brooklyn have been gentrified.

Harlem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How do you think the multicultural experiment between the Bloods & Crypts is going.

What do you mean?

Could be a little racism going on throughout those gangs. How do you think the desegregation in our federal prisons is working out, when you have various Chicano, Black, White, Latino and neo Nazi gangs taking showers together?

OK.....so.....basically what you're saying is...segregating prisons...would stop criminals and gang members from doing what criminals and gang members do? lol. Kid seriously don't make me laugh. I've been to juvi homes. You don't need somebody of a different skin color around to be a criminal. You either are or you are not. It's really that simple. Most acts of violence that go on in jails aren't race related. They're drug/money related.
 
then you need to stop thinking in terms of a global culture, and start thinking like an American where we have and govern ourselves as Americans first and foremost.
You do know Americans have a variety of skin tones? Heck theres different shades in my own immediate family. Also I'd like to point out that anyone from South America or Anywhere in North America is well within their rights to call themselves Americans, not just citizens of the USA.

I'm surprised that you being a conservative haven't yet picked up on the importance of being an American--having and living by the American tradition as outlined to us by our forefathers.
Again see above on "Americans."

You want to promote multiculturalism/desegregation; may I suggest you move to the border of Arizona or Southern California to get a first hand view of Mexican/American racism as it unfolds on a daily basis. Perhaps we could find you a home on the Mexican/American border where you could pull service as a kind multicultural peace negotiater between two races of people that have differing goals in mind. What do you say talloulou....you up for the job?

I have a big problem with illegal aliens but I have zero problem with legal immigrants regardless of skin color and there is nothing wrong with multiculturalism. I lived in San Diego for years and years and while illegal immigration is a huge problem in California I assure that you would not be able to travel around San Diego and pick out which people were legal citizens vs illegal aliens based on skin color alone. :roll: There are in fact many who've come here legally from South America and many of them are just as upset about illegal immigration as I am.
 
You do know Americans have a variety of skin tones? Heck theres different shades in my own immediate family. Also I'd like to point out that anyone from South America or Anywhere in North America is well within their rights to call themselves Americans, not just citizens of the USA.

***You need to get off this skin tone nonsense. I'm talking about segregating peoples due to their comfort zone of living with people of the same cultural makeup. There is an overwhelming amount of Mexicans that believe they are owed an ownership to a great portion of Southwestern America. Many of these people whether arriving legally or illegally have no intention of learning English as their #1 language, or of assimilating into America as Americans first beyond their mother country cultures.



I have a big problem with illegal aliens but I have zero problem with legal immigrants regardless of skin color and there is nothing wrong with multiculturalism. I lived in San Diego for years and years and while illegal immigration is a huge problem in California I assure that you would not be able to travel around San Diego and pick out which people were legal citizens vs illegal aliens based on skin color alone. :roll: There are in fact many who've come here legally from South America and many of them are just as upset about illegal immigration as I am.

***One of your problems is your myopic view of many of these so-called legal immigrants. You have no problem with these people, despite the fact that a majority of them have no intention to assimilate into the American culture. It doesn't bother you that many hard working tax paying Americans are watching their tax monies go to feed, clothe, incarcerate and hospitalize the millions that leech of our system. As a Conservative you still haven't accepted the axiom that conservatism/capitalism is totally different than your form of Socialism. You do know that 1/3 of our felons are illegal aliens? How is your multicultural experiment working out with these people? Shouldn't we as Americans--if we were to be as kind as you....set up a reservation or a mini city of sorts, designated for all illegals, for all unassimilated legal immigrants, and for all illegal felons to live together in one large merry community so as to fend for themselves without threatening or jeopardizing the rest of we law abiding racially neutral Americans? They could even build a fence or wall around themselves (like the Berlin Wall) so as to insure that we true Americans won't upset their progress and their march toward self identity and self independence. We real Americans could call these people "American Wannabes Incorporated". There is plenty of unused land in Nevada that they could use, and most would feel comfortable living in an arid/desert climate--like the living conditions from their mother banana republic homelands.
 
***One of your problems is your myopic view of many of these so-called legal immigrants. You have no problem with these people, despite the fact that a majority of them have no intention to assimilate into the American culture.
This is a total of crock of $hit. I had tons of friends in San Diego that were 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants from Mexico and they had assimilated fine. I think I only knew one grandmom who spoke no English amoungst my friends. And she was from India. Her son had immigrated here legally with her and his daughter was my friend. The daughter was assimlated fine as she never knew anything but here. The father was a bit strict but otherwise fine. The grandmother didn't speak English and never left the house so maybe she didn't assimilate. But in general they assimilate fine.

It doesn't bother you that many hard working tax paying Americans are watching their tax monies go to feed, clothe, incarcerate and hospitalize the millions that leech of our system.
Illegal aliens bother me. While I feel for them the problem isn't one that should be ignored. I've already said that. And yes you are correct that they leech off our system and they do cost a ton of money.

However the ones that are here legally and living in ridiculously expensive San Diego houses are not leeching off the system in anyway, shape, or form. Most of them have been here for generations and many of them are quite well off. They have no intention of segregating themselves off into some barrio full of people you deem to be Mexicans.

As a Conservative you still haven't accepted the axiom that conservatism/capitalism is totally different than your form of Socialism.
What have I ever said constitutes "socialism?" My belief that legal immigrants can assimilate into the US just fine and that they need not be restricted to living in neighborhoods by race or skin color? Is that, to you, socialism??? :rofl

:rofl

You do know that 1/3 of our felons are illegal aliens? How is your multicultural experiment working out with these people?
I do know many illegals end up in jail. I also know they use the ER as their primary care dr. and they don't pay their medical bills and they tend to work jobs where physically injury is quite common. They also enroll their non-English speaking kids in schools and in areas where the illegal alien population is high it's a real problem. I have never disagreed with any of that.

However there are also tons of legal immigrants that don't cause such problems.

Shouldn't we as Americans--if we were to be as kind as you....set up a reservation or a mini city of sorts, designated for all illegals, for all unassimilated legal immigrants, and for all illegal felons to live together in one large merry community so as to fend for themselves without threatening or jeopardizing the rest of we law abiding racially neutral Americans?

Immigration laws should be enforced. As far as "unassimilated legal immigrants" I'm not sure what you're talking about as I haven't seen enough of this in the US to view it as a problem. I do understand that it is a problem in parts of Europe but where in the US are legal immigrants not assimilating in large numbers?

And what the fvck is racially neutral? :stooges I have no idea what that means.

They could even build a fence or wall around themselves (like the Berlin Wall) so as to insure that we true Americans won't upset their progress and their march toward self identity and self independence. We real Americans could call these people "American Wannabes Incorporated". There is plenty of unused land in Nevada that they could use, and most would feel comfortable living in an arid/desert climate--like the living conditions from their mother banana republic homelands.

Clearly continuing with you is nothing more than riding the short bus. :2wave: :2wave:
 
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ptsdkid said:
You do know that 1/3 of our felons are illegal aliens?

I'm calling your bluff on this lie.


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm

Factslapped, liar.

The prevalence of imprisonment in 2001 was higher for
-- black males (16.6%) and Hispanic males (7.7%) than for white males (2.6%)
-- black females (1.7%) and Hispanic females (0.7%) than white females (0.3%)

Not 33.3 percent.

About 4% of State prison inmates were not U.S. citizens at yearend 2001.

Not the newest information, but you'd have to be an idiot to try to convince me that it went up 27% in the last few years. This applies to felonies too.

I'm sick of this imbecile making up facts to support his racist views.


Duke
 
This is a total of crock of $hit. I had tons of friends in San Diego that were 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants from Mexico and they had assimilated fine. I think I only knew one grandmom who spoke no English amoungst my friends. And she was from India. Her son had immigrated here legally with her and his daughter was my friend. The daughter was assimlated fine as she never knew anything but here. The father was a bit strict but otherwise fine. The grandmother didn't speak English and never left the house so maybe she didn't assimilate. But in general they assimilate fine.

***Where were you when I believe it was last year some time (perhaps during Cinco de Mayo) when illegal Mexicans, somewhat legal Mexicans, and Liberal America were marching in the streets of many of our largest cities demanding equal rights and demanding open borders in the Southwest? I remember Ted kennedy shouting through a bullhorn to the illegal world that we should have open borders. Many of these protestors displayed Mexican flags in direct defiance of America and the American flag. None of these people had assimilation on their minds, and furthermore their actions were racist toward every American willing to listen and understand their message.

Illegal aliens bother me. While I feel for them the problem isn't one that should be ignored. I've already said that. And yes you are correct that they leech off our system and they do cost a ton of money.

However the ones that are here legally and living in ridiculously expensive San Diego houses are not leeching off the system in anyway, shape, or form. Most of them have been here for generations and many of them are quite well off. They have no intention of segregating themselves off into some barrio full of people you deem to be Mexicans.

***High class recent legal immigrants are certainly a minority. Next time you take a personal poll of these Mexican immigrants from Kalifornia--you made want to include the millions living in the barrios and of those that are incarcerated so as to get a more accurate assessment to their assimilation finesse. Don't forget to search through L.A.'s more prominent gang neighborhoods as well.

What have I ever said constitutes "socialism?" My belief that legal immigrants can assimilate into the US just fine and that they need not be restricted to living in neighborhoods by race or skin color? Is that, to you, socialism??? :rofl

***Merely using incorrect rhetoric that legal immigrants can assimilate into the US just fine, doesn't address the fact or reality that most of them fail to assimilate.



I do know many illegals end up in jail. I also know they use the ER as their primary care dr. and they don't pay their medical bills and they tend to work jobs where physically injury is quite common. They also enroll their non-English speaking kids in schools and in areas where the illegal alien population is high it's a real problem. I have never disagreed with any of that.

However there are also tons of legal immigrants that don't cause such problems.

**There may be tons of legal immigrants that don't cause problems, but for purposes here--its the loudest most unassimilated legals that make the most noise, cause the most friction, cost us the most money, and incite racial tensions throughout the land.



Immigration laws should be enforced. As far as "unassimilated legal immigrants" I'm not sure what you're talking about as I haven't seen enough of this in the US to view it as a problem. I do understand that it is a problem in parts of Europe but where in the US are legal immigrants not assimilating in large numbers?

**Well, there is anywhere from 20-30 illegal immigrants in this country, so we can safely say that none of them have even bothered to entertain the though of assimilating. Now there is also this huge amount of legal immigrants that continue to swell our welfare roles, utilize our hospitals at the tax payers expense, and continue to speak Spanish over the act of actually learning how to speak English.

And what the fvck is racially neutral? :stooges I have no idea what that means.

***Racial neutrality is a generic term meaning that one is not out to incite, complain, or argue over anything racial. I prefer to live in a segregated community that is racially neutral; we do not make a big deal out of racial differences or racial problems of integrated communities; thus we can never be considered to be racist in any manner whatsoever. Even if I were to have racist/supremacist thoughts (which I don't), I couldn't be accused of being a racist because I've kept those thoughts to myself. So as far as you know, I could be the poster boy for national racial harmony. That wouldn't be a stretch, seeing how its me that has suggested segregation as a means to preventing racism.



Clearly continuing with you is nothing more than riding the short bus. :2wave: :2wave:

***I differ with you here; I believe it would be you riding on the short bus while I'll be the driver--driving you and other multiculturalists back to your racially war torn mixed neighborhoods, replete with crime and disillusionment.
 
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