Will Segregation Prevent Racism?

[ptsdkid]

Just when you thought Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson couldn't incite racism to a higher level than they already have, along came this common sense plan called segregation; a fool proof method to prevent racism at any level.

 

[Hatuey]

Just when you thought Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson couldn't incite racism to a higher level than they already have, along came this common sense plan called segregation; a fool proof method to prevent racism at any level.

First you have to look at what causes racism. To my knowledge it is hate, prejudice and ignorance. In an Utopian world, men can be divided into groups and live side by side in perfect harmony minding their own business and providing for their own. To my knowledge there hasn't been a time when men have separated themselves into any kind of groups and it didn't end in violence and large scare genocides. Segregation doesn't prevent racism. It just makes it more obvious.

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PS: Once again you've proven that you can't make neutral polls.

 

[Just Me 2]

I don't think segregation is racism IF the it just happens, what I mean is places like Little Italy in NYC is mostly white, China Town mostly Chinese. Now this happens because people wanted to live with others like them nothing wrong with that. If you force segregation that is wrong.

I hope I said this clear enough.

 

[Hatuey]

I don't think segregation is racism IF the it just happens, what I mean is places like Little Italy in NYC is mostly white, China Town mostly Chinese. Now this happens because people wanted to live with others like them nothing wrong with that. If you force segregation that is wrong.

I hope I said this clear enough.

You did. You can't force people to live where they don't want to live. If African American nationalists want to go make a "homeland" somewhere in Ethiopia for blacks only. Let them go ahead I'm staying right here in the U.S. of A. Same goes for white nationalists. All these people who want to divide America into different regions based on race should either pony up enough money to buy land or stfu and learn to stop being racist.

 

[Just Me 2]

You did. You can't force people to live where they don't want to live. If African American nationalists want to go make a "homeland" somewhere in Ethiopia for blacks only. Let them go ahead I'm staying right here in the U.S. of A. Same goes for white nationalists. All these people who want to divide America into different regions based on race should either pony up enough money to buy land or stfu and learn to stop being racist.

You got it.

 

[Hatuey]

You got it.

I got Goobie on speed dial just in case a scenario like that ever happens. I also got him on speed dial just in case I ever have to defend the American Mexican border from Vermont but thats a whole different deal.

 

[1069]

If African American nationalists want to go make a "homeland" somewhere in Ethiopia for blacks only.

It was my distinct impression that this experiment had already been tried.
Liberia...?

 

[Hatuey]

It was my distinct impression that this experiment had already been tried.
Liberia...?

I don't think they were black nationalists... Wasn't that where they sent some freed Slaves? I always thought it was because some white slave owners didn't think slavery would hold much longer but were reluctant to assimilate their former slaves into society.

History of Liberia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Notable supporters of transporting freed blacks to Liberia included Henry Clay, Francis Scott Key, Bushrod Washington, and the architect of the U.S. Capitol, William Thornton—all slave owners. These "moderates" thought slavery was unsustainable and should eventually end but did not consider integrating slaves into society a viable option. So, the ACS encouraged slaveholders to offer freedom on the condition that those accepting it would move to Liberia at the society's expense. A number of slave owners did just that.

The colonization effort resulted from a mixture of motives. Free blacks, freedmen and their descendants, encountered widespread discrimination in the United States of the early 19th century. They were generally perceived as a burden on society, and a threat to white workers because they undercut wages. Some abolitionists believed that blacks could not achieve equality in the United States and would be better off in Africa. Many slaveholders were worried that the presence of free blacks would encourage slaves to rebel. Other supporters of removal to Africa wanted to prevent racial mixing, to promote the spread of Christianity in Africa, or to develop trade with Africa.[1][2]

 

[Kandahar]

Just when you thought Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson couldn't incite racism to a higher level than they already have, along came this common sense plan called segregation; a fool proof method to prevent racism at any level.

You...are...not...a...real...person

Go...away...troll

This is a recording.

 

[Hatuey]

You...are...not...a...real...person

Go...away...troll

This is a recording.

OMG thank you for a good laugh you just made my day.:lamo :2funny: :rock :lamo :2rofll:

 

[jamesrage]

Just when you thought Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson couldn't incite racism to a higher level than they already have, along came this common sense plan called segregation; a fool proof method to prevent racism at any level.

Keeping people in separate racial groups only fuels racism.Only a fu<ken retard actually thinks segregation doesn't fuel racism.You don't think forcing people to be separated into racial groups won't fuel some kind of resentment/hatred towards other races and ignorant perception about other races?

 

[ptsdkid]

Keeping people in separate racial groups only fuels racism.Only a fu<ken retard actually thinks segregation doesn't fuel racism.You don't think forcing people to be separated into racial groups won't fuel some kind of resentment/hatred towards other races and ignorant perception about other races?

***Who said anything about forcing people to segregate? Its when you force people to desegregate that you get racial tension and racial wars. Great example (as I lived in the Boston area during the 1972-3 desegregation experiment) when black school children from Mission Hills and Roxbury were forced to bus to school together with white Irish kids from South Boston and Dorchester. You might want to google that troubling time in our history to see just how great the racial relations were between the two races.
Someone here mentioned the living arrangements of certain races, i.e. Little Italy, the French quarters, any of the Chinatowns, Watts, Harlem, South Boston Irish, any of your Indian reservations etc, etc, to see what the percent of racial tension is in those neighborhood factions. Wouldn't you guess it to be hovering around 0%?
Pick any of our worldwide wars to find that each one develops as a result of one race of people overpowering another race of people. I doubt if you'll find any amount of international racial love between the two. The last thing two warring nations should do, is to experiment socially, by offering an exchange program of sorts so that differing peoples could intermingle with others of a foreign makeup. That would be like me (a Boston Irish/American) experimenting with my life by going out to live in the heart of Harlem. First of all, it ain't going to happen, and second, I feel more secure and more comfortable living with other Irish Americans. Not only do I have the choice to live with my people, but I'm preventing the chance of there ever being any racial tension. My preference to live among white people should never be misconstrued by others into thinking that I hold racist beliefs, nor should it be misconstrued into thinking that I feel superior to any other race of people, for that surely is not the case.

 

[afr0byte]

I got Goobie on speed dial just in case a scenario like that ever happens. I also got him on speed dial just in case I ever have to defend the American Mexican border from Vermont but thats a whole different deal.

Hmm, what do you mean? Are you from Vermont?

 

[Jerry]

Just when you thought Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson couldn't incite racism to a higher level than they already have, along came this common sense plan called segregation; a fool proof method to prevent racism at any level.

What exactly are you talking about? Who said what? Source please?

 

[Duke]

Just when you thought Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson couldn't incite racism to a higher level than they already have, along came this common sense plan called segregation; a fool proof method to prevent racism at any level.

Quite the opposite, really. In a city or town with only one race, one would expect all other races would be viewed as inferior. In the short term, this would not make much of a difference, but as we know, such segregation doesn't last forever.

Say PTSD, been reading a few too many David Duke books? You remind me of him.


Duke

 

[dragonslayer]

I did not vote in your poll. from the choices you give, I take it that you are person that believes in seperation, intolerance and racism.

The stuff that will stop all racism is nothing. there will probably always be some. But, being seperate can only breed contempt, myth, and feelings of superiority.

what we need are equal social and financial rights, and equal opportunity makes it possible for all races to get along. During the years before Bush, we had reached a point where less than 25% of the American people were living in poverty. Now Bush is happy to report that Poverty has again been stretched so it covers almost 50% of population.

I am not talking about welfare. Welfare is designed only to feed people, not change a person's future. During the years of the War on Poverty, the IRS reported that 14 million folks left welfare and became tax payers. Did you know that 60 percent of those folks were white?

yeaaaay Bush is your hero.

 

[Kandahar]

Guys, if you don't feed the troll, it will eventually go away.

 

[Duke]

Guys, if you don't feed the troll, it will eventually go away.

We tried that one, Kandy. I've known this guy for a long, long time, and the only logical conclusion I can possibly draw about him is extreme: That he's not trolling.


Duke

 

[Gibberish]

Desegregation AFTER years of segregation prompts racial tension. There should be no segregation in the first place. We are all HUMAN BEINGS.

 

[Hatuey]

Hmm, what do you mean? Are you from Vermont?

Goobieman has an affinity for guns. He'd probably know which one I can use to defend the U.S. Mexico border from where I live. I'm from Cali but I live in Vermont.

 

[Kandahar]

We tried that one, Kandy. I've known this guy for a long, long time, and the only logical conclusion I can possibly draw about him is extreme: That he's not trolling.


Duke

I'm almost 100% sure that he is. He gave himself away in the thread "Does anyone here work?" with his inane question. No real person - no matter how stupid they were - would say something so blatantly troll-like.

He also made an alias a while back called "Arkansas" for the purpose of saying things like "You guys should listen to ptsdkid, he's the only person here who makes a lot of sense." And I know that it was an alias, because the pair had done similar tag-team things in other forums too, despite "Arkansas" claiming that he had just found this board and met ptsdkid.

 

[1069]

I'm almost 100% sure that he is. He gave himself away in the thread "Does anyone here work?" with his inane question. No real person - no matter how stupid they were - would say something so blatantly troll-like.

What would be his agenda, though, with that question?
Many threads in the "off-topic" section have a disingenuous question as a title: "Does anyone here listen to music?", etc. Most of them seem compelled by little more than idle curiosity.
Don't trolls usually have an agenda?
(Not to suggest he's not a troll; I tend to agree with you that he is one. But that thread in particular was not the deciding factor for me. Rather, his rhetorical polls, and combative and belligerent stances in any number of threads he's started).

 

[Hatuey]

What would be his agenda, though, with that question?
Many threads in the "off-topic" section have a disingenuous question as a title: "Does anyone here listen to music?", etc. Most of them seem compelled by little more than idle curiosity.
Don't trolls usually have an agenda?
(Not to suggest he's not a troll; I tend to agree with you that he is one. But that thread in particular was not the deciding factor for me. Rather, his rhetorical polls, and combative and belligerent stances in any number of threads he's started).

Right@NYU had a theory that he was a liberal plant put here to make Conservatives look like idiots. I told him if this was the case I'd become a conservative become a pro-lifer and support the 2nd amendment to the fullest extent.

 

[1069]

Right@NYU had a thesis that he was a liberal plant put here to make Conservatives look like idiots.

Huh.
Right@NYU ought to just admit that extremist conservatives make themselves look like idiots, without any direct assistance from the Left.
Still, I suppose it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
I guess I hadn't read enough of PTSD's posts to realize he was a conservative (or was attempting to pose as one).
I thought he was just a weirdo who liked to shock and incite people for attention.
It seems to me I've heard him express many sentiments that are not typically associated (or stereotypically associated, in case he's a plant) with the Right.

Does the Right even believe in PTSD (unless it's discussing a woman who had an abortion and now regrets it)?
I thought they were mostly tough, manly, "Pull-up-yer-socks-and-quit-yer-whinging" types.

 

[ptsdkid]

Quite the opposite, really. In a city or town with only one race, one would expect all other races would be viewed as inferior. In the short term, this would not make much of a difference, but as we know, such segregation doesn't last forever.

Say PTSD, been reading a few too many David Duke books? You remind me of him.


Duke

***What do you mean, I remind you of David Duke? Granted, he is a great friend of mine, but its you that has his namesake.