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WikiLeaks cables: India accused of systematic use of torture in Kashmir

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Source: The Guardian

We are much too generous in calling India the world's biggest democracy.
 
"Other cables show that as recently as 2007 American diplomats were concerned about widespread human rights abuses by Indian security forces, who they said relied on torture for confessions."

Ok so its good that they were concerned but why are they not concerned about all the people that we torture?
 

I think it's because they're 'diplomats' they don't usually deal with domestic issues just the interests of their own countries.
 
This isn't America's business. If you're looking for victims look to Detroit, and a host of locations in America. Americans should mind their own business.
 
Note the "widespread". I haven't heard claims of widespread torture done by Americans, but I have heard claims of some torture - however, I have not heard anything about torture in India, until now.

And what Hatuey said, obviously.
 
Note the "widespread". I haven't heard claims of widespread torture done by Americans, but I have heard claims of some torture - however, I have not heard anything about torture in India, until now.

Yeah, it isn't quite the cause célèbre that torture in China is for Western media.
 
I'm honestly more concerned with the US using torture than other countries. We have a provision against it in our constitution. And how do we expect other countries to stop the practice if we do not act as a role model? We need to put our money where our mouth is, and take the first step to ridding the world of torture.
 

What do you think of Obama's reactivation of the policy of extraordinary rendition?
 
It means he's nowhere near as liberal as his detractors make him out to be.

That's a possibility I think is pretty remote. He's not a believer in ruthlessness as a legitimate means of persuasion. I think he's trapped.

Obama has no place to put these folks any more. Not Gitmo. Bagram's prison is bursting at the seams because the miscreants can't be transferred to Afghan custody. They would let them go.

He's reactivated extraordinary rendition for torture overseas, but the really interesting thing is his escalation in the use of drone strikes. I have the impression Obama prefers to simply kill jihadis rather than capture and interrogate them.
 
What does the one have to do with the other?

Do I really have to explain what a liberal's position on extraordinary rendition would be? You can't be serious. :roll:
 
Do I really have to explain what a liberals position on this would be? You can't be serious. :roll:

1) You make it sound like it's exclusively a "liberal" position.

2) You also make sound like liberal administrations didn't make use of it just as often as "conservative" ones.

This is one of those things which was never a problem until Bush did it.


Richard Clarke, Against All Enemies, pp. 143-144


I guess Al Gore is not a liberal. Who are we kidding? He's one of the most liberal people in the country. :lamo
 
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