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US officials had evidence of widespread torture by Indian police and security forces and were secretly briefed by Red Cross staff about the systematic abuse of detainees in Kashmir, according to leaked diplomatic cables released tonight.
The dispatches, obtained by website WikiLeaks, reveal that US diplomats in Delhi were briefed in 2005 by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) about the use of electrocution, beatings, sexual humiliation against hundreds of detainees.
Other cables show that as recently as 2007 American diplomats were concerned about widespread human rights abuses by Indian security forces, who they said relied on torture for confessions.
"Other cables show that as recently as 2007 American diplomats were concerned about widespread human rights abuses by Indian security forces, who they said relied on torture for confessions."
Ok so its good that they were concerned but why are they not concerned about all the people that we torture?
Note the "widespread". I haven't heard claims of widespread torture done by Americans, but I have heard claims of some torture - however, I have not heard anything about torture in India, until now."Other cables show that as recently as 2007 American diplomats were concerned about widespread human rights abuses by Indian security forces, who they said relied on torture for confessions."
Ok so its good that they were concerned but why are they not concerned about all the people that we torture?
Note the "widespread". I haven't heard claims of widespread torture done by Americans, but I have heard claims of some torture - however, I have not heard anything about torture in India, until now.
Yeah, it isn't quite the cause célèbre that torture in China is for Western media.
I'm honestly more concerned with the US using torture than other countries. We have a provision against it in our constitution. And how do we expect other countries to stop the practice if we do not act as a role model? We need to put our money where our mouth is, and take the first step to ridding the world of torture.
There is no torture in China.
What do you think of Obama's reactivation of the policy of extraordinary rendition?
It means he's nowhere near as liberal as his detractors make him out to be.
It means he's nowhere near as liberal as his detractors make him out to be.
What does the one have to do with the other?
Do I really have to explain what a liberals position on this would be? You can't be serious. :roll:
Snatches, or more properly "extraordinary renditions," were operations to apprehend terrorists abroad, usually without the knowledge of and almost always without public acknowledgement of the host government.... The first time I proposed a snatch, in 1993, the White House Counsel, Lloyd Cutler, demanded a meeting with the President to explain how it violated international law. Clinton had seemed to be siding with Cutler until Al Gore belatedly joined the meeting, having just flown overnight from South Africa. Clinton recapped the arguments on both sides for Gore: Lloyd says this. Dick says that. Gore laughed and said, "That's a no-brainer. Of course it's a violation of international law, that's why it's a covert action. The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass."
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