Why You Can't Argue with a Leftist

[rocket88]

Well considering Obama's birth certificate is conveniently missing, I wouldn't say that's credible information

Trump may have had money, but he turned a few million into several billions.

Now please kindly piss off.

Missing? Didn't he have a big press conference where he distributed copies?

 

[<alt>doxygen]

Are we not having this discussion already, on this very same video?

Prager and his army of drones/bots.

 

[Jezcoe]

Well considering Obama's birth certificate is conveniently missing, I wouldn't say that's credible information

Trump may have had money, but he turned a few million into several billions.

Now please kindly piss off.

President Obama has released his Birth Certificate in two different forms

President Trump was “earning” $200,000 as a three year old and had everything handed to him by his father.
He is the epitome of someone who has constantly failed upwards.

 

[trixare4kids]

The freaking title is "Why you can't argue with a leftist." How unclear is that?

Shouldn't you be telling the other poster? Or are you as confused as him?

 

[MrWonka]

Mueller has yet to come up with any evidence of collusion. All the arrests are on financial technicalities and perjury traps.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! 6 core members of Trump's campaign staff have been charged with felonies. A perjury trap is what you get when you ask a sitting president about an affair he had with his wife under oath as Republicans did with Bill Clinton. When you're being asked questions about major crimes committed against the United States you had better ****ing tell the truth. If you don't it's not a perjury trap you're just a ****ing traitor.

Michael Cohen is singing like a canary, and we can already confirm that both Monafort and Don Jr. met with Russians at Trump tower to discuss the leaking of illegally obtained information on Hillary Clinton. We also know for a fact that Trump himself directed the bribing of multiple porn stars in order to cover up affairs he had in order to keep their stories out of the media and hurting his presidential chances. That is a felony campaign finance violation and he is dead to rights. Donald Trump's twitter feed alone contains more instances of Obstruction of Justice in plain sight than anything they had on Richard Nixon.

The only thing that is keeping Donald Trump from spending the rest of his life in prison is a Republican Senate that's too cowardly to do their ****ing jobs and a Vice President that can offer him a Pardon.

You do not have a leg to stand on when accusing Liberals of Corruption. The Republican party spent four long years desperately investigating every aspect of Hillary Clinton's emails and when it was all said and done you could find even one single solitary thing to charge her with. Hillary Clinton testified under oath in front of Congress for 11 ****ing hours and no matter how desperately they tried Republicans couldn't get her to perjure herself or say anything whatsoever that was even remotely incriminating. Meanwhile, your boy Trump has to submit his answer in writing because his lawyers know he can't go 5 seconds without lying his ass off in a face to face interview.

 

[MrWonka]

Well considering Obama's birth certificate is conveniently missing, I wouldn't say that's credible information

Umm...first, it's not missing. Second, if he were in fact born in raised in Kenya that would make his upbringing even more humble.

Trump may have had money, but he turned a few million into several billions.

While filing for bankruptcy on six separate occasions. Do you have any ****ing clue how easy it is to get rich in real estate when you start out with a large bankroll? If I was given 5 million dollars back in the 1970's I guarantee you I'd have several billion today, and I would have done it without the bankruptcies. It's not even a ****ing challenge.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Mueller has yet to come up with any evidence of collusion. All the arrests are on financial technicalities and perjury traps.

There hasn't been a single 'perjury trap' in the entire investigation.

 

[bongsaway]

An invasion of our country by human traffickers says the president and most of the right will agree with him.

And people on the right wonder why they can't argue with people on the left? Might it be the people on the left don't see the invasion of human traffickers? Trump claims or trump says and the right swallows and then expects the left to agree with what they just swallowed.

 

[Xelor]

From the OP:

Owen Benjamin explains [...] the problem with America today is we no longer share the same goals.

Be that as it may, there's, IMO, a far bigger problem, and that problem supersedes the matter of goals, be they different or the same: the left rely on facts, whereas the right relies on alternative facts. There simply is no common ground to be found when one side believes so that which isn't.

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[Grokmaster]

Right wingers can't argue with liberals because liberals are arging facts, real life situations, real life solutions, and many right wingers are arguing a made up version, so in the end, they aren't even arguing on the same topic

He said LEFTISTS, not LIBERALS.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

Well considering Obama's birth certificate is conveniently missing, I wouldn't say that's credible information

Trump may have had money, but he turned a few million into several billions.

Now please kindly piss off.

The fact that your question Obama's birth certificate means you are part of the fringe irrational right. Even Trump admitted he was wrong.

And if I gave you a few hundred million in the 70's it would be worth billions now. Iran had $400 million frozen in 1979. It was worth $1.7 Billion in 2015 just from simple interest without aggressive investment. If you had millions in real estate in NYC in the 70's you would be worth billions today.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

He said LEFTISTS, not LIBERALS.

Name me a leftist who is for open borders and raising children without gender.

 

[Doc91478]

Are we not having this discussion already, on this very same video?

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Kindly point out where this is taking place. Certainly not in the House of Representatives.

 

[ludin]

Name me a leftist who is for open borders and raising children without gender.

don't pay too much attention to the threads on this board do you?

 

[ludin]

From the OP:


Be that as it may, there's, IMO, a far bigger problem, and that problem supersedes the matter of goals, be they different or the same: the left rely on facts, whereas the right relies on alternative facts. There simply is no common ground to be found when one side believes so that which isn't.

The only facts that leftist rely on are the ones they make up and consider facts.
anything that counters those "facts" aren't facts.

that is the problem with leftists. They don't care what facts are because the only "facts"
are those they agree with.

 

[Xelor]

From the OP:


Be that as it may, there's, IMO, a far bigger problem, and that problem supersedes the matter of goals, be they different or the same: the left rely on facts, whereas the right relies on alternative facts. There simply is no common ground to be found when one side believes so that which isn't.

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Red:
To illustrate the "red" point, I cite the following astoundingly ignorant claims "righties" have made, in public no less:

• When gasoline prices fall, people think their doing so notably indicates something about the economy and merit of policies the POTUS/Congress enacts affecting it, no matter their normativity. Gasoline prices are not a leading or lagging indicator of an economy. They indicate how much one will pay for gasoline. That gives them the potential to be a material or immaterial component of the cost of living, which is but a representation of how much money one must have to purchase a predefined "basket" of goods, not a proxy or indicator of an economy's strength/weakness.
• There are folks on the right think editorials are news and they rail against published editorials calling them "fake news." Editorials aren't any kind of news and nobody should refer to or evaluate them as such.
• There are folks on the right who will argue that factual (and contextual) accuracy is irrelevant, on occasion doing so by going so far even as to defend the notion the word "half" is something other than a specific arithmetic quantity.
• There are folks on the right who genuinely believe (1) Trump hasn't lied, and (2) that willful exaggerations and omissions uttered in furtherance of one's own argument (for/against "whatever") aren't lies/dissemblings.
• There are folks on the right who utterly disregard material contravening facts.
• There are folks on the right who believe history's events happened in a sequence other than that in which it did, and subsequently form and utter conclusions based on their revision of the order in which events happened.
• There are folks on the right who think extant recent trends and current statuses that simply are not, and subsequently form and utter conclusions based on their having hewn to such notions.

Most discomfiting is that in addition to relying on "alternative facts," falsities, they will also defend the purported truth of those falsities, even going so far as to deny the verisility of the facts involved.

 

[Xelor]

The only facts that leftist rely on are the ones they make up and consider facts.
anything that counters those "facts" aren't facts.

that is the problem with leftists. They don't care what facts are because the only "facts"
are those they agree with.

See post 41's linked-to content.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Name me a leftist who is for open borders and raising children without gender.

I could, with enough digging, probably find five or ten....out of millions.
It's like digging for a 1945 Ford pickup truck in civilian garb.
They're out there, actually...the country's car plants were tasked with building MILITARY equipment but a limited number of civilian vehicles WERE in fact manufactured to replace spent domestic government fleets.
The trucks are technically 1940 and 1941 models BUT the tag says "1945".

Leftists for whom open borders and the gender neutral birth designation are that important do exist.
I wager that you will find more Flat Earthers, Young Earth Creationists, Holocaust Deniers and Moon Hoaxers in the same period of time and with the same effort.

So, are we really going to run around with our hair on fire?



But if someone is attempting to claim that this constitutes the majority on the Left, they're lying.
The numbers are undetectable.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

The only facts that leftist rely on are the ones they make up and consider facts.
anything that counters those "facts" aren't facts.

that is the problem with leftists. They don't care what facts are because the only "facts"
are those they agree with.

Who are these leftists? Is Obama a leftist? Is Hillary? Do they believe in genderless children and open borders?

Surely, you agree these are a reasonable question. Can you provide a reasonable answer?

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

But if someone is attempting to claim that this constitutes the majority on the Left, they're lying.
The numbers are undetectable.

This is what the right does. They define "The Left" by the most extreme positions on the left. Yet they object to "The Right" being defined by the most extreme positions held by the racists and conspiracy theorists on the right.

And the idea that Republicans share a goal of clean air is news to me. How are more coal plants going to help clean the air?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

They need to get a ****ing grip and stop masturbating to this guy. He's been dead for over fifty years.

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[AlphaOmega]

You heard correctly. The argument boils down to: you can always tell a leftist, but you sure can't tell them much.

Thats because they already know so much about that which isnt so!

 

[ludin]

See post 41's linked-to content.

confirmation bias is well nothing.

 

[ludin]

Who are these leftists? Is Obama a leftist? Is Hillary? Do they believe in genderless children and open borders?

Surely, you agree these are a reasonable question. Can you provide a reasonable answer?

yes they do believe in open borders. In fact much of the issue we have with these surges is because of obama telling people they can just come here.
Yes leftist continue to push gender-less children.

Sorry but he is right. it is child abuse to tell a boy he isn't a boy but whatever gender he wants to be. same goes with a girl.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/27/nyregion/gender-neutral-birth-certificate.html
there you go.

 

[DarkWizard12]

LOL! That same asshat in the video claims that one cannot engage in productive discussions with leftists is the guy who posts this: https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/s...27095404437505

There's no sweet, fetid stench of hypocrisy quite like that which surrounds conservatives like a nimbus of stink.

fan of the ad hominem fallacy, eh?