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Why This Election Campaign May Become The Ugliest In American History

"Cancel culture"? Like when a US company bans political apparel (left, right, middle) and Trump wants you to boycott them?
 
I'm not going to reply to each breakdown because none of it was really necessary. The Original Poster lumped these groups in with CLINTON Voters and my question was why would they expect them not to be? You can claim all you want that "mature" people in these demographics are apart of the Republican Party, but the reality is that according to Gallup, only 6% of African Americans identify as Republicans and only 21% of LGBTQ People identify as Republican. There is a reason for this. The Republican Party does not have a history of being a welcoming place for these groups.
No, again your statements are clearly false.

Your false perspective, that I "claimed" mature people are Republicans, is simply false. I clearly stated in the above two posts in this thread that mature adults simply don't let identity politics be their sole-decider of their party preference. They weigh multiple concerns and planks, like economics, military, international relations, immigration, etc., and they decide for the Republicans, the Democrats, or whatever based on that mature method of selection.

The reasons a comparatively small percentage of people of color and LGBTQ have been Republicans is because the liberal Democrats told them a ton of lies for decades and seduced them via identity politics that "only Democrats will look out for you". :roll:

But, that tide is turning. Thanks to the economic successes of Trump that have benefited both people of color and LGBTQ people, the more mature among them are starting to see that the seduction of the liberal Democrats was simply that, and that once elected .. to governorship and mayoral posts, and even during the Obama administration .. these two groups were not economically benefited by leftist socialist liberal Democrat economic policies in any way, and in fact many lost jobs to offshoring and outsourcing championed by Multi-Cultural Internationalist Obama himself.

As those who have succumbed to the scourage of identity politics get older, and mature, they open their eyes, and they will see for themselves the truth of it, without requiring the leftist Democrats to do their "seeing" for them.

The Republican Party is and has been a welcoming place for these two groups to support American freedom and economic security.
 
"Cancel culture"? Like when a US company bans political apparel (left, right, middle) and Trump wants you to boycott them?
Your misconstruence is blatant and purposeful .. and, it is false.

Good Year did not ban leftist apparel: they clearly said apparel supporting the violent radical leftist Marxist organization Black Lives Matter (BLM) was acceptable .. which they indeed, perhaps unconsciously, listed on the left side of their Power Point presentation.

Meanwhile, on the right side of that presentation, the "unacceptable" apparel side, they banned "Blue Lives Matter", Blue Lives Matter being in support of our police officers who are trying to defend our cities against leftist BLM's bullying, rioting, looting, assaulting, and murder in our cities' streets these past three months.

So yes, not only is that a "cancel culture" supporting political perspective on Good Year's part, it most certainly warrants a boycott -- or worse sanctions -- for enforcing such blatant political censorship of their employee's rights to free speech.

Trump got this one right: either allow no political garb and perspective or allow all political garb and perspective.

You couldn't be more wrong on this one.
 
Your misconstruence is blatant and purposeful .. and, it is false.

Good Year did not ban leftist apparel: they clearly said apparel supporting the violent radical leftist Marxist organization Black Lives Matter (BLM) was acceptable .. which they indeed, perhaps unconsciously, listed on the left side of their Power Point presentation.

Meanwhile, on the right side of that presentation, the "unacceptable" apparel side, they banned "Blue Lives Matter", Blue Lives Matter being in support of our police officers who are trying to defend our cities against leftist BLM's bullying, rioting, looting, assaulting, and murder in our cities' streets these past three months.

So yes, not only is that a "cancel culture" supporting political perspective on Good Year's part, it most certainly warrants a boycott -- or worse sanctions -- for enforcing such blatant political censorship of their employee's rights to free speech.

Trump got this one right: either allow no political garb and perspective or allow all political garb and perspective.

You couldn't be more wrong on this one.

They banned political apparel. Sorry you feel so triggered.
 
I am 68, and I've been politically aware for a number of decades.

I could've sworn you once said were a teenager that was dating a younger teenage girl? Am I wrong?
 
They banned political apparel. Sorry you feel so triggered.
Oh, now you try to belittle people for being upset at their political freedom of speech being taken away while they have to look at others political speech on the job to which they're understandably greatly opposed. :shock:

How disgusting of you. :roll:

But, again you misconstrue. They only banned some political apparel -- they kept political apparel that supports the leftist Marxist organization Black Lives Matter.

And, they banned Blue Lives Matter, a blatant act of political censorship favoritism that if an employee violates they could get fired.

Clearly you have it all backwards and wrong on this.
 
Oh, now you try to belittle people for being upset at their political freedom of speech being taken away while they have to look at others political speech on the job to which they're understandably greatly opposed. :shock:

How disgusting of you. :roll:

But, again you misconstrue. They only banned some political apparel -- they kept political apparel that supports the leftist Marxist organization Black Lives Matter.

And, they banned Blue Lives Matter, a blatant act of political censorship favoritism that if an employee violates they could get fired.

Clearly you have it all backwards and wrong on this.

I don't know about you, but I typically work 40 hours a week. That means the rest of the time I can do as I wish. During those 40 hours, I obey the rules as long as they are not illegal. If they tell me not to wear political apparel, I don't. After all, they are paying for my salary.
 
I don't know about you, but I typically work 40 hours a week. That means the rest of the time I can do as I wish. During those 40 hours, I obey the rules as long as they are not illegal. If they tell me not to wear political apparel, I don't. After all, they are paying for my salary.
Meaningless diversion.

Fact: Good Year allows wearing of t-shirts that support the leftist Marxist political organization Black Live Matter (BLM) that's orchestrating bullying, rioting, looting, assaulting, and murder in our cities' streets.

Fact: Good Year disallows wearing of t-shirts that support the organization Blue Lives Matter that supports our police officers as they try to defend us against the violence of BLM.

Fact: Good Year disallows wearing of t-shirts that support the moderate/right perspective "All lives matter" that states that all lives are important regardless of skin color.

Fact: This amounts to blatant censorship of certain mainstream political perspectives while encouraging the extreme political behavior of the Marxist political group BLM, threatening employees who violate this blatantly unfair political policy with the loss of their job.

Clearly, this is wrong. And it is at least a boycott justifying violation.

But, on another topic that you seem to want to discuss .. I take it therefore you were quite happy with the NFL blacklisting Colin Kaepernick for making a political statement by kneeling disrespectfully during the pledge of allegiance, thereby violating the NFL policy against disrespecting our flag, country and service personnel, and you were quite okay with that then because at the time that was Kaepernick's employer's work policy? Right?
 
I am 68, and I've been politically aware for a number of decades.

There's a phenomenon present today unlike anything I've ever seen or read about since 1950s McCarthyism, and which is beginning to approach late 1930s German Nazism!

A movement began around 2013 calibrated on racism, falsely asserting that rampant "systemic racism" was everywhere in the U.S. and that it was frequently displayed as "microaggression" causing harm to Black/African Americans all the time everywhere.

Senator Clinton's campaign in 2016 picked up on that movement, grouping all non-White races with Blacks. She added "women" as well, alleging there are "systemic misogyny" attitudes throughout America. She made similar inclusions of LGBTQ gender identity and gender preference. Ultimately she appealed to every personal identity characteristic that could be considered on the outside of the "status quo" looking in.

Thus Senator Clinton played heavily on what is known as identity politics, which grabs her supporters by their egos and takes them for a "self-esteem" ride on her campaign. Indeed, her supporters were riding high emotionally as polls said she would win.

When she lost, many of her identity politics followers were understandably devastated emotionally, more so than they would have been had they supported her simply for economic or international issues reasons. They were devastated because they supported her egoistically, and losing had a huge shaming impact on their psyche's self-identity, the self-identity of non-White, female, LGBTO, and the like supporters.

These devastated people became emotionally distraught, sought out "safe spaces" in universities, and angrily talked about how they'd get even with "cheating" Trump.

Meanwhile, Generation Z was entering universities with a lot of baggage. These 1995-2015 kids suffered from an epidemic of "helicopter parenting" where they were way over-protected. But they were also under-nurtured, as they were the first generation to be "babysat" by social media devices while parents were emotionally/physically distant at work/projects. This social media-facilitated peer pressure had a traumatic effect on so many Gen. Z kids. Indeed, Gen. Z kids suffer true anxiety and depression in late teens that is off the charts compared to previous generations, and universities found they really had to beef up their staff of therapists and counselors.

Devastated Clinton supporters and Gen. Z kids are both wounded emotionally/psychologically, leaving them with zero tolerance at this point for any opposing viewpoint that's akin to what they delude wounded them. And, they have created a bond based on their woundedness.

The organization Black Lives Matter (BLM), founded in 2013, that had been essentially not much of a player until 2016, soon began to spearhead what we now know as "cancel culture". Intentionally taking advantage of these wounded people, BLM greatly exaggerated the what and where of "systemic racism" and "microaggression" to the level of a conspiracy theory. They were able to play these wounded people into a direction of "getting even" with "straight White males" via mob aggression of false assertions about these people to get them fired at universities and other institutions.

The media's reports of "cancel culture" success caused companies to become concerned about lawsuits if "cancel culture" came their direction. Thus many companies created the "inclusion and diversity" department of IR, tasked with the forestalling job of "educating" all White people falsely about their "White privilege", "White guilt", and so-called "unconscious racism", all truly false constructs for the overwhelming vast majority.

Today, many leftists have zero tolerance to even hear an opposing political opinion from the right, wanting everyone who disagrees with them to be silenced and fired, and many moderates/rights are really pissed about the false accusations of "racism" and "microaggression" leveled at them that's egregiously reprehensibly getting many of them silenced or fired.

Indeed, the unbelievable mind-boggling success of the "cancel culture", coupled with the mainstream media's obsession to defeat Trump, has morphed this "systemic racism" and "microaggression" conspiracy theory into a scary major force via avowed Marxist BLM's horrific uncalled-for bullying, rioting, looting, assaulting, and murder in our streets the past three months, which the left supports!

(Cut because of length see post one for full context. )

Considering the intolerable wounded leftists and the really pissed-off moderates/rights from being falsely accused of racism and losing their jobs, the stage is set for a very ugly U.S. political campaign.

May!!??!! Are you hiding under a rock?
 
I seldom watch the news -- I read a lot of it though, from diverse sources. And, I've learned from experience that the lame-stream media (MSNBC, CNN, CBS, NBC, and ABC and other liberal-oriented presentations) present statements and conclusions that are contradicted by both actual news video and the quotes of those who actually make the news.

So, maybe, it's possible that you've been watching too much lame-stream media news.

If you have to watch news, try moderate Fox. They've had their share of disagreements with Trump, so they're clearly not a rubber-stamp conservative news.

Fox is moderate. Though I'm sure the myopic left blurs the distinction whenever they look to the right of themselves, not being able to differentiate between moderate and conservative.

What Fox does is put the most extreme people and the most extreme stories in front of the audience to scare the crap out of them, and apparently it worked with you.

When this pandemic is over you should leave your house and attend a few local Democratic party functions. You might actually not hate it.
 
Meaningless diversion.

Fact: Good Year allows wearing of t-shirts that support the leftist Marxist political organization Black Live Matter (BLM) that's orchestrating bullying, rioting, looting, assaulting, and murder in our cities' streets.

You seem sad that no one likes you white winger.... :lol:

Ontologuy said:
Fact: Good Year disallows wearing of t-shirts that support the organization Blue Lives Matter that supports our police officers as they try to defend us against the violence of BLM.

So Good Year is adopting the policy that the vast majority of the country agrees with. Sounds like good business to me. :shrug:

Ontologuy said:
Fact: Good Year disallows wearing of t-shirts that support the moderate/right perspective "All lives matter" that states that all lives are important regardless of skin color.

Maybe because normal folk see through the trolling that is Blue Lives and All Lives Matter. The thing of it is that you white wingers aren't that clever. Now that never used to matter, back in the day other whites would still humor you like you were making some valid point, but those days are done. No one is playing along with your nonsense anymore. Welcome to an America that finally has no time for white wing bull****. :thumbs:
 
You seem sad that no one likes you white winger.... :lol:



So Good Year is adopting the policy that the vast majority of the country agrees with. Sounds like good business to me. :shrug:



Maybe because normal folk see through the trolling that is Blue Lives and All Lives Matter. The thing of it is that you white wingers aren't that clever. Now that never used to matter, back in the day other whites would still humor you like you were making some valid point, but those days are done. No one is playing along with your nonsense anymore. Welcome to an America that finally has no time for white wing bull****. :thumbs:

Black Lies matter...
 
Meaningless diversion.

Fact: Good Year allows wearing of t-shirts that support the leftist Marxist political organization Black Live Matter (BLM) that's orchestrating bullying, rioting, looting, assaulting, and murder in our cities' streets.

Regardless of your beliefs, BLM is not a political group, so they are allowed.

Fact: Good Year disallows wearing of t-shirts that support the organization Blue Lives Matter that supports our police officers as they try to defend us against the violence of BLM.

They view that as political, probably because the police are a government entity.

Fact: Good Year disallows wearing of t-shirts that support the moderate/right perspective "All lives matter" that states that all lives are important regardless of skin color.

I've seen no evidence that this is the case.

Fact: This amounts to blatant censorship of certain mainstream political perspectives while encouraging the extreme political behavior of the Marxist political group BLM, threatening employees who violate this blatantly unfair political policy with the loss of their job.

Clearly, this is wrong. And it is at least a boycott justifying violation.

The president of the United States should never get involved. If private citizens want to boycott, fine. If you believe what Goodyear is doing is wrong, you can boycott and even take them to court. Good luck.

But, on another topic that you seem to want to discuss .. I take it therefore you were quite happy with the NFL blacklisting Colin Kaepernick for making a political statement by kneeling disrespectfully during the pledge of allegiance, thereby violating the NFL policy against disrespecting our flag, country and service personnel, and you were quite okay with that then because at the time that was Kaepernick's employer's work policy? Right?

I've no opinion about that. I really have no real opinion about Goodyear's policy either, I simply believe that the president of the United States should never be involved in such matters.
 
I haven't seen anything like this egregious "cancel culture" since 1950s McCarthyism, and if it doesn't stop soon, it may paint straight White males in the same vein as the Nazis painted the Jews in the 1930s!

1. Your thread title uses the word "may." I respectfully suggest that it should be "WILL" be the ugliest campaign in American history.

2. Actually, no one is really responsible.

a. It was inevitable from the first day that people were brought here from a faraway continent to be unpaid workers that someday the country would implode. And that "someday" is now.

3. Personally, I do not blame the Dems or the Republicans or even the ancestors of those unpaid workers. If anyone is to blame, it is the colonists who brought those unpaid workers here in 1619.

4. It is truly the American Tragedy. Our foreign enemies, of course, are gloating.

5. I agree with your comment that I have quoted above. We are currently in the 1920s, so to speak. If the Dems win (as is likely), we WILL be in the 1930s, so to speak. Terrible things will happen that will figuratively (and in some cases physically) destroy many people's lives. I understand that the super rich are already preparing to leave for safer countries. (Just as the rich in New York City have fled to safer states.)
 
We all know why... Trump.

Really. This isn’t complex. Trump has nothing to run on, can’t fix anything, doesn’t want to.


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it is going to be ugly. Biden is not a great candidate and has a lot of baggage. Trump is a man-child who can do nothing but throw tantrums and produce Reality-TV drama to divide and anger the People.

This election is going to be ugly, it's going to be embarrassing, and it will leave a mark on the Republic.
 
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