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Why The Future of Belarus Matters to the United States

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Why The Future of Belarus Matters to the United States

The protests and violent crackdown in Minsk will reshape Russian and Western decision-making for years.

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A basic primer for those unfamiliar with this eastern European nation.
 

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The lowest level of property stratification in the world is in Belarus, where the income of the richest 10% exceeds the income of the poorest 10% by only 4 times. And their Gini coefficient (the ratio of poverty to wealth) is low - 21.7. In Russia, for example - 92.3.
To make it clear who is fanning the flames and why.
 

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It's a Europe problem, not ours.

Not a problem. An opportunity.

Then again, your foreign policy skills are every bit as bad as your domestic policy skills.
 

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Not a problem. An opportunity.

Then again, your foreign policy skills are every bit as bad as your domestic policy skills.

Your BS is stacked 40 feet high here on DP.

Again, this is a Euro problem.

You are the very person who ridicules US hegemony, while also claiming this to be a opportunity at the same time.
 

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Lukashenko: "There is a build-up of military power on the Western borders of the country. Lithuania, Poland, and Ukraine are ordering us to hold new elections. If we listen to them, we will perish as a state, as a people, as a nation"
 

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Your BS is stacked 40 feet high here on DP.

Again, this is a Euro problem.

You are the very person who ridicules US hegemony, while also claiming this to be a opportunity at the same time.

Finding an ally is not equivalent to hegemony. But in your bygone world ... they are probably analogous.

All you do here is criticize others sailor. A drive-by artist. You never ever have the cojones to start your own threads on topics.
 

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Finding an ally is not equivalent to hegemony. But in your bygone world ... they are probably analogous.

All you do here is criticize others sailor. A drive-by artist. You never ever have the cojones to start your own threads on topics.

I don't start threads loaded with hypocritical views such as yours. On one side of your face, the USA is a hegemony, and on the other you say we should intervene.

Belarus is, and always will be a Euro/Russia problem regardless of your nonsense..
 

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I don't start threads loaded with hypocritical views such as yours.

You don't start threads at all and if you did, FOX would probably be your primary source.
 

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Not a problem. An opportunity.


The first time you've been correct perhaps.


Let's be realists here - it's an opportunity for US neo-cons to stir up trouble in another state - think Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela.

But of course, two more realist points to make:

1. That ordinary people will suffer from unrest and political instability.

2. That, because Belarus is existential to Russia's security, there'll be no 'pro West' coup in Belarus. These protestors are not anti Russian or pro West. They just want a fair election, and they know who butters their bread (clue for you RV - it isn't Uncle Sam all those thousands of miles away ;).
 
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The first time you've been correct perhaps.


Let's be realists here - it's an opportunity for US neo-cons to stir up trouble in another state - think Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela.

But of course, two more realist points to make:

1. That ordinary people will suffer from unrest and political instability.

2. That, because Belarus is existential to Russia's security, there'll be no 'pro West' coup in Belarus. These protestors are not anti Russian or pro West. They just want a fair election, and they know who butters their bread (clue for you RV - it isn't Uncle Sam all those thousands of miles away ;).



check out polish GDP per capita and Belarusian one, its clear that your butter has much less calories than EU/NATO´s butter
 

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TLet's be realists here - it's an opportunity for US neo-cons to stir up trouble in another state - think Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela.

Belarusian's don't need outside help to know when an election has been rigged.

[video=youtube;NuvDkpv1PoY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NuvDkpv1PoY[/video]

Minsk, August 16: Tens of thousands gather in biggest protest in Belarus history
 

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Lukashenko "has no legitimacy", as the European Union did not recognize the elections in Belarus, said the head of european diplomacy Josep Borrel.

This is quite a beautiful logic. Legitimacy is the recognition of power by the PEOPLE. Since when are european politicians are the people of Belarus?
 

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Lukashenko "has no legitimacy", as the European Union did not recognize the elections in Belarus, said the head of european diplomacy Josep Borrel.

This is quite a beautiful logic. Legitimacy is the recognition of power by the PEOPLE. Since when are european politicians are the people of Belarus?

Belarusians have rejected the rigged election. Do try and keep up.
 
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