- May 8, 2005
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Just wondering do you recognize Isreal as a country or not?Aleem said:I'm an egyptian, But i don't hate american people BUT i extremely hate its administration and its violence against us .
But you know what ? I sometimes blame american people Because without their votes, Bush wouldn't be thier president, And i can't excuse you especially after the last elections which means your agreement with what he does .
I hate american army very much, I hate what they do against Iraqi people, I hate what they do against its prisoners everywhere . I hate them when palastinian people are slaughtered by american weapons .
In the past, I was dreaming to visit America, But now i can't endure the idea.
I can say you have a very ugly face toward the world especially Middle East.
You support our enemy i.e Israel, You support our despotic rulers .
You don't know how much you're hated here, I know what i say .
In short, USA is the other face of The Devil here .
There were different reasons that people re-elected President Bush, for instance, I saw nothing that Kerry could do that would actually bring about good for the country and felt that all of the progress we've made to re-establish a consumer driven market could be destroyed by one signiture on the wrong economic bill, Kerry was very weak on the economic level IMHO and I also believe he played the monetary classes against each other to further his agenda. I also didn't trust his take on the war, but that was secondary.galenrox said:Plus Bush didn't win as a vindication for his war policy, but instead he somehow convinced a lot of America that democrats are immoral, and hated Jesus, and so on, and so he won. Less than 40% of America support what we're doing in Iraq currently.
Thank you, I have this weird mental process in which profundities just sort of pop into my head.galenrox said:
I dont think that Kerry was a crappy candidate, I just think that he ran a very poor campaign... Quite frankly the dems dropped the ball, Kerry or his election staff dropped ball (They should have seeked me out, I would have kick some stuff into gear :lol: )galenrox said:
Simon W. Moon said:They don't like how we as a nation relate to them and the ME. They don't hate us, they just hate the policies we make re them.
IMPRESSIONS OF AMERICA(pdf)
HOW ARABS VIEW AMERICA
HOW ARABS LEARN ABOUT AMERICA
A Six-Nation SurveyAttitudes toward American values, people, and products remain mostly favorable, but have also declined in the past two years.
US policy is the major factor that accounts for the low US favorable ratings and the decline in these ratings.
These factors[values, people and products] have no impact on Arab attitudes toward US policy, which remains low and drives overall favorables down.
[size=+1]Poll Shows Growing Arab Rancor at U.S. [/size]Those polled said their opinions were shaped by U.S. policies, rather than by values or culture. When asked: "What is the first thought when you hear 'America'?" respondents overwhelmingly said: "Unfair foreign policy."
And when asked what the United States could do to improve its image in the Arab world, the most frequently provided answers were "Stop supporting Israel" and "Change your Middle East policy."
Exactly. :mrgreen:J. Walls said:Yeah they're mad at us for GITMO. That's why they decided to fly planes into buildings full of civilians. You are absolutly right. we should close down all of our detainment facilities. Get a freakin clue. these people represent a very small portion of the muslim population. Make no mistake, if they will not stop until either we stop them are until we are all dead.
Surenderer said:Peace upon all of you,
I am also a Muslim and have many Arab friends and this is what I know of dislike for America worldwide......now this isn't dislike for American people but for the Government and it's policies.....I know that many will say that the crimes committed on 9-11 targeted civilians but as awful as it was please remember that it could have been much worse if those same terrorists(and I don't deny that they were just that) had decided to fly planes instead into a Nuclear power facility which could perhaps wipe out the East Coast or a Football stadium and perhaps kill 10's of thousands of people...What seems to be forgotten/ignored is what the World Trade Center and the Pentagon... anyway dislike for America in the M.E. begins with these 3 facts:
1. The evil Saddam Hussein himself, was once supported by the American government during the Iraq Iran war
2. The American government and American companies sold him arms and materials to help produce the bombs and dangerous weapons which he used on his own people on more than one occasion
3.No matter what Bush says about concerns for civil liberties, human rights and democracy, I know of not one American policy which is designed to support human right abuses, feminist equality, and free speech in the Middle East, let alone the world. In fact, America has allied itself with some of the most gross human rights abusers in the region, and the world (Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey,) and shamelessly has the audacity to condemn other governments ( Iraq, Iran, Syria) for their history of human rights
The worse thing about this whole affair is that American foreign policy depends not upon understanding the Middle East nor its people, but on making them subservient to their personal interests: keeping the flow of oil going no matter what...As far as the Muslim dislike for American-Israeli crisis Muslims know (but many Americans don't) that in 2001 Three times the United States said it would veto a proposal by the Palestinians to bring in "monitors" to help bring the violence to an end. The issue of placing an observer force at scenes of conflict seems to be something the United States favors almost every place else, except in Palestine. Not to mention the fact that U.S. is making big money selling arms to the M.E. which begots more and more violence....but I do recognize Israel as a State as do most Muslims (sorry but thats true)
Billo_Really said:Read Aleems post. Then read again. And again. And again. Until you realize that the reason for 9/11 was directly proportional to American arrogance and its quest for Empire. We are not the great country we once were if we condone torture, detainment without being charged of a crime, and this illegal phoney war on terror.
You cannot have a war against an ideology. There is no tangible way to have closure. This is all BS. We are in Iraq to proliferate Corporatism. And we are heading for our own Nuremburg. Check out the link below and see what you don't see in the Pro-Bush media over at Fox News.
Best way to prevent 9/11 is to impeach Bush, have Congress remove him from office and him over to an International Court to be charged as a war criminal for Crimes against Humanity.
galenrox said:And it certainly doesn't help us much that after 9/11 people were pulling arabs out of their cars and beating them. Or us torturing muslims and ******* on them and their qu'rans. Or the fact that quite a few of us refer to arabs as "sand niggers". So yeah, we can blame them, but if we don't look at what we're doing to make us a target, then nothing will change.
9/11 being Americas fault makes about as much sense as a women being raped is her fault
If congress was impeach Bush who would replace him? I know the Vice President, according to your theory nothing would change. But for curosity who would you put aas President?
making resolutions that have no wait from countries that commit fraud and break those resolutions
a person that would act big and fire a patriot or two off, and when terrorists strike again blame it on the US again for some other ridiculous reason
Bush could not be brought up on War Crimes it isnt legaly possible
why should any country be forced to bow to the UN
because some sect is commiting barbaric acts of beheading torture and other serious crimes.
What do you mean debunked? The Pentagon admitted it happened! But in the interests of being fair, once they were alerted to this matter, they issued a 22 page report on how to handle the document. And there have been no instances after that.The qu'ran story has been debunked.