It’s funny that you think they are so separateIs anyone able to sense who works in the dreaded private ['free market'] sector and who 'works' for 'the government'?
It’s funny that you think they are so separate
If you demonstrated an understanding of how DEI efforts work, the quality of your posts would be improved.
The fatal flaw with all those arguing against DEI efforts is that they fundamentally just do not grasp that DEI efforts don’t influence the final hiring decisions - no one gets the job because they were black versus white.
They get the job based on their merits.
Show us where in The Civil Rights act there is an exclusion for your good intentions?It absolutely does. Motivation is the difference between whether the boss did something legal or illegal by denying the Jewish applicant a job.
Stay on target.Says the guy who accuses me of wanting Jews out of the Middle East. Look in the mirror, bud.
Considering I have decades of experience in largely private industry that also worked in coordination with government sectors, I know.It's not funny that you don't think/understand so.
Considering I have decades of experience in largely private industry that also worked in coordination with government sectors, I know.
Do you have anything relevant to say about this century?'A ROLE' LOL!!! THE MOST CRITICAL ROLE!!
“The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. To depart from mere generalizations, let me say that at the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller–Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as the international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes.
They practically control both parties, write political platforms, make catspaws of party leaders, use the leading men of private organizations, and resort to every device to place in nomination for high public office only such candidates as will be amenable to the dictates of corrupt big business.” [only the names have changed]
― John Francis Hylan, Autobiography of John Francis Hylan, Mayor of New York
When they argue that the government is actually forcing private corporations to adopt DEI policies it is clear as day these people are just talking out of their asses and parroting what rightwing media tells them.
Do you have anything relevant to say about this century?
Your argument goes of the rails right there.The fatal flaw with all those arguing against DEI efforts is that they fundamentally just do not grasp that DEI efforts don’t influence the final hiring decisions - no one gets the job because they were black versus white.
Show us where in The Civil Rights act there is an exclusion for your good intentions?
Stay on target.
Private commercial banks 'create deposits' out of nothing and loan them at interest... duuuuuuh..
Do some basic homework for once... Steve Zarlenga, Bill Still, Stephen Goodson, G. Edward Griffin, Ellen Brown, The Alliance For Just Money, etc..
I've worked in the financial services sector, including the banking sector, off and on over the last 30+ years and in over 20 countries. Because of that firsthand, professional-level experience I have far more knowledge about how they operate than do most other people.If you were a monetary realist you'd understand the basics haven't changed.....get knowledge..
No where. Yet if they engage in racial discrimination in pursuit of that "culturally diverse workforce" they're likely to find themselves on the wrong end of a court decision.Show us where in the Civil Right Act corporations are forbidden from valuing a culturally diverse workforce.
Because if that "help" involves an act of racial discrimination that act becomes illegal.
A tip: cartoon stereotypes aren't helping your cause.
A tip: cartoon stereotypes aren't helping your cause.
Let's go there. Please read post 169 and discuss the point made there.You don’t like detailed sociological/historical/paychological analyses either.
But we can go there too if you want. Let me know.
But you can’t dismiss it all.
Let's put aside the reality that two people can never be that equal and go with it.
If helping the disadvantaged is your aim, how do you know the minority candidate didn't come from a wealthy home and the white applicant from a poor one? Or maybe the minority candidate had two loving parents and the white kid got the shite kicked out of him on a regular basis?
Possibly, but it doesn't matter. Were a company to do that, they would not be violating the law. When they make race a selection criterion, they are.Would you be OK with basing such decisions purely on financial background? It’s an interesting thought.
Possibly, but it doesn't matter. Were a company to do that, they would not be violating the law. When they make race a selection criterion, they are.
I would suggest maybe you and your sources don't really understand "poor whites" interests and ambitions.Why do poor whites vote against their own interests?
Lyndon Johnson once stated:
“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
This statement is as true now as it was then. Corporations and their rich overlords want to maintain their power and wealth. In order to do that they must offer (through their politicians and media) 'social status.' You may be poor, but at least you aren't these black cityfolk! Or these immigrants! Or these queerfolk! And by the way... those groups are the real threats to society. Let corporate media distract you with black violence porn and scary anecdotes of bearded transwomen leering at your daughter in the public bathroom. Never mind the corporations and rich siphoning off wealth and security from workers. Never mind them whittling away union power. Sure, right-populists may take notice, and may not be too happy about it. But, in the end, it's all worth it if those 'others' get punished.
Until we acknowledge the problem it will continue to fester.
I've worked in the financial services sector, including the banking sector, off and on over the last 30+ years and in over 20 countries. Because of that firsthand, professional-level experience I have far more knowledge about how they operate than do most other people.
Say, what are your credentials in this discussion?
You can say that, but history shows people tied to the land, their nation, their empire. Skin color was not a "tribe" until the trans-Atlantic slave trade. White supremacy arose out of colonial conquest. Globalism is irrelevant, unless you want to claim settling the New World and conquering Africa are globalism.Well yes and I'm saying the category of race really has subtle ethnic roots which globalism has amplified.
We're in agreement, which is my point. The difference between Brits hating and conquering Scots and Brits hating and conquering Africans is that in the former, skin color is irrelevant, while in the latter, skin color is seen as indicative of the cause.I don't think race is just skin color either to be fair. Race has cultural associations as well, but again I grant that separating peoples purely due to melanin content is silly.
I'll summarize my point briefly:
Racism has its origins in the slave trade, that's true, but that origin comes from the fact that when Europeans landed on Africa, they were presented with a totally asymmetrical civilizational relationship. Caravels and guns met mud huts and no written language in the African interior. Racism doesn't come from some arbitrary statistic like melanin content, but from the legacy and conquest of the African continent where Europeans assumed that this civilizational divide necessarily meant they were almost dealing with a different sub-species of human. This assumptions informs pretty much all racist ideology to this day, not skin color.
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