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Why permit refugees into your country?

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I don't understand the rush by certain people in Western civilizations to permit refugees to enter their country on permanent basis. It appears to me the net effect is a drain on social services, a rift in community cohesion and the transplantation of foreign culture inside ones own borders. Try as I might, I can see no upside to such a position. So why is nearly every Western nation slitting it's own throat like this?
 

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I don't understand the rush by certain people in Western civilizations to permit refugees to enter their country on permanent basis. It appears to me the net effect is a drain on social services, a rift in community cohesion and the transplantation of foreign culture inside ones own borders. Try as I might, I can see no upside to such a position. So why is nearly every Western nation slitting it's own throat like this?

Generally people that call for refugees to be let in are just saying it to appear as an altruistic bastion of love. Also, so that they can call everyone else that doesn't support it as racist.
 

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I don't understand the rush by certain people in Western civilizations to permit refugees to enter their country on permanent basis. It appears to me the net effect is a drain on social services, a rift in community cohesion and the transplantation of foreign culture inside ones own borders. Try as I might, I can see no upside to such a position. So why is nearly every Western nation slitting it's own throat like this?

Liberals have convinced themselves that a benevolent Nanny State utopia paid for with endless debt and other people's money is a realistic reality.
 

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I don't understand the rush by certain people in Western civilizations to permit refugees to enter their country on permanent basis. It appears to me the net effect is a drain on social services, a rift in community cohesion and the transplantation of foreign culture inside ones own borders. Try as I might, I can see no upside to such a position. So why is nearly every Western nation slitting it's own throat like this?

Maybe the appropriate UN convention will help understand part of the argument. And in the states there are plenty of refugees and their offspring you might ask. In most Vietnamese restaurants you'll find a boat person or two, though their kids will usually be first in their class at Harvard or CalTec or something.
 

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Maybe the appropriate UN convention will help understand part of the argument. And in the states there are plenty of refugees and their offspring you might ask. In most Vietnamese restaurants you'll find a boat person or two, though their kids will usually be first in their class at Harvard or CalTec or something.

And? The net positve fo the host nation is one less spot @ Harvard or Cal-Tech?
 

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I don't understand the rush by certain people in Western civilizations to permit refugees to enter their country on permanent basis. It appears to me the net effect is a drain on social services, a rift in community cohesion and the transplantation of foreign culture inside ones own borders. Try as I might, I can see no upside to such a position. So why is nearly every Western nation slitting it's own throat like this?

Common decency. The fact that most people aren't terrified of the fact that non WASPS are coming into this country. And oh yeah---getting to listen to the hysterics of the nativists.
 

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Common decency. The fact that most people aren't terrified of the fact that non WASPS are coming into this country. And oh yeah---getting to listen to the hysterics of the nativists.

We are $19T in debt we don't need anymore people with their hands out.
 

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Common decency. The fact that most people aren't terrified of the fact that non WASPS are coming into this country. And oh yeah---getting to listen to the hysterics of the nativists.

What 'common decency'? The money spent on refugees couldn't be better spent on the 'common decency' of feeding, housing or clothing American children or adults?
 

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What 'common decency'? The money spent on refugees couldn't be better spent on the 'common decency' of feeding, housing or clothing American children or adults?

Not to mention our vets.
 

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We are $19T in debt we don't need anymore people with their hands out.

The debt is never getting paid anyway; no politician is willing to do what's necessary to do so.
 

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What 'common decency'? The money spent on refugees couldn't be better spent on the 'common decency' of feeding, housing or clothing American children or adults?

But isn't that a symptom of the "nanny state"? :roll:
 

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The debt is never getting paid anyway; no politician is willing to do what's necessary to do so.

So we'll spend a fortune for displaced Syrians but none for those in Detroit? Or Flint? Or any number of Appalachian communities killed by the collapsing coal industry?
 

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So we'll spend a fortune for displaced Syrians but none for those in Detroit? Or Flint? Or any number of Appalachian communities killed by the collapsing coal industry?

Apparently. After all, avoiding the "nanny state" is much more important then helping those groups.

Right? :roll:
 

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But isn't that a symptom of the "nanny state"? :roll:

Irrelevant answer the question: The money spent on refugees couldn't be better spent on the 'common decency' of feeding, housing or clothing American children or adults?
 

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What 'common decency'? The money spent on refugees couldn't be better spent on the 'common decency' of feeding, housing or clothing American children or adults?

Don't kid yourself. Leftists haven't a friggin clue one what "common decency" is.
 

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Irrelevant answer the question: The money spent on refugees couldn't be better spent on the 'common decency' of feeding, housing or clothing American children or adults?

Is an American worth more then another person? Maybe in America, but I don't see why we can't do both.
 

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Apparently. After all, avoiding the "nanny state" is much more important then helping those groups.

Right? :roll:

Again, the 'nanny state' isn't the question, is it? The question is why add to your poverty numbers with people from OUTSIDE the country? Or are you, like most Democrats, attempting to deflect from the core issue?
 

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Limits on the size of a coke or excess taxes on liquor is nanny state garbage. But if you're going to spend the money on foreigners why not spend it here at home? On Americans who need it?

Hell, do both.
 

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Once we've taken care of all impoverished Americans, we can worry about the folks in Libya or Syria, or Romania, or Vietnam....deal?

Only problem is your never going to be able to take care of all impoverished Americans. Maybe in a ideal world, but not in this imperfect one.
 

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I don't understand the rush by certain people in Western civilizations to permit refugees to enter their country on permanent basis. It appears to me the net effect is a drain on social services, a rift in community cohesion and the transplantation of foreign culture inside ones own borders. Try as I might, I can see no upside to such a position. So why is nearly every Western nation slitting it's own throat like this?

Leftists let these third-worlders in because they need the votes and it causes chaos in the meantime. And puts an unnecessary burden on resources. Remember, leftists believe the US needs to be punished and fashioned into a socialist cesspool.
 

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Only problem is your never going to be able to take care of all impoverished Americans. Maybe in a ideal world, but not in this imperfect one.

Then you don't get to pull refugees in. I mean in an ideal world you could, but not this imperfect one.
 

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Is an American worth more then another person? Maybe in America, but I don't see why we can't do both.

America first! We are $19T in debt, we cant even take care of our Veterans. We cant do both. You want to help refugees, hand them a gun and send them back to fight for freedom in their own country.
 

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Then you don't get to pull refugees in. I mean in an ideal world you could, but not this imperfect one.

Not the same thing. After all, America has been taking in refugees for years.
 
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