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Why Obama is Republican/conservative[W:78]

Re: Why Obama is Republican/conservative

So what was your excuse on his flip over gay marriage? Where did you say he was on the Right with Social issues? Where was he on Abortion?

Hardly conservative or Republican issues at all.

I think you are confused with neo-libs and neo cons when it comes to Foreign Policy. There is only one difference. Who's in Charge.

None of those topics are in the OP.....Feel free to read it.
 
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None of those topics are in the OP.....Feel free to read it.

Here I'll just debunk the immigration issue with this one.....

How Will Same-Sex Couples Fare Under Immigration Reform?

President Barack Obama avoided specifically calling for equal rights for same-sex couples as part of an immigration reform package during a news conference in Las Vegas today. But the White House released a set of proposals that does urge lawmakers to guarantee gay and lesbian couples the same rights as heterosexual spouses.

"It also treats same-sex families as families by giving U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents the ability to seek a visa on the basis of a permanent relationship with a same-sex partner," reads a section of the proposal geared toward keeping families together.

Gay rights activists have criticized a framework for immigration reform laid out Monday by a bipartisan group of eight senators for not including such protections.

"We were disappointed that the bipartisan framework did not specifically include lesbian and gay families," Steve Ralls, a spokesman for Immigration Equality, a group that supports immigration benefits for LGBT families, said. "Earlier this year, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus released their priorities for immigration reform and we were on their list that they wanted to see included."

Inclusion would mean a dramatic shift in policy. Currently, LGBT citizens cannot marry their foreign partners and confer citizenship upon them in the same way that straight couples can. While some states allow same-sex couples to marry, they are still ineligible under federal law for the same green cards granted to straight couples.

And an immigration reform bill is not the only potential hurdle in addressing this......snip~


Obama Includes Same-Sex Couples in Immigration Reform Plan - ABC News

So much for that topic in the OP, and Obama's Policy being Conservative or Republican. :roll:
 
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Here I'll just debunk the immigration issue with this one.....

How Will Same-Sex Couples Fare Under Immigration Reform?

President Barack Obama avoided specifically calling for equal rights for same-sex couples as part of an immigration reform package during a news conference in Las Vegas today. But the White House released a set of proposals that does urge lawmakers to guarantee gay and lesbian couples the same rights as heterosexual spouses.

"It also treats same-sex families as families by giving U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents the ability to seek a visa on the basis of a permanent relationship with a same-sex partner," reads a section of the proposal geared toward keeping families together.

Gay rights activists have criticized a framework for immigration reform laid out Monday by a bipartisan group of eight senators for not including such protections.

"We were disappointed that the bipartisan framework did not specifically include lesbian and gay families," Steve Ralls, a spokesman for Immigration Equality, a group that supports immigration benefits for LGBT families, said. "Earlier this year, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus released their priorities for immigration reform and we were on their list that they wanted to see included."

Inclusion would mean a dramatic shift in policy. Currently, LGBT citizens cannot marry their foreign partners and confer citizenship upon them in the same way that straight couples can. While some states allow same-sex couples to marry, they are still ineligible under federal law for the same green cards granted to straight couples.

And an immigration reform bill is not the only potential hurdle in addressing this......snip~


Obama Includes Same-Sex Couples in Immigration Reform Plan - ABC News

So much for that topic in the OP, and Obama's Policy being Conservative or Republican. :roll:


Was it passed....
 
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Did the changes get written in despite your change on the tangent?

was it passed.....
 
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was it passed.....

No it wasn't passed as there has been no vote yet.....but did Obama put in new wording that wasn't considered from the get go? See that's the part you can't get around. His ideology. His beliefs. Which has nothing to do with Conservatism nor Republicanism.
 
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No it wasn't passed as there has been no vote yet.....but did Obama put in new wording that wasn't considered from the get go? See that's the part you can't get around. His ideology. His beliefs. Which has nothing to do with Conservatism nor Republicanism.

If it pass we can talk....

Pretty sure that obama tries to get through bills just because people of different groups push him to. But thats debatable.
 
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Is this even remotely related to media bias?

It is if you are Communist that has no sense of reality.
 
Re: Why Obama is Republican/conservative

It is if you are Communist that has no sense of reality.

According to conservative media....he is a socialist. *laughs*

There is enough evidence that he is a conservative.....if you have some data challenging the op, feel free to post.
 
Re: Why Obama is Republican/conservative

According to conservative media....he is a socialist. *laughs*

There is enough evidence that he is a conservative.....if you have some data challenging the op, feel free to post.

The only way he would be consider a Conservative if you already walk around with a hammer and sickle in each hand.


Obama Calls for Stricter Gun Laws as New Details Emerge in Major Shooting Cases | PBS NewsHour | March 28, 2013 | PBS

Conservative are against Gun control.

Health Reform in Action | The White House

Obamacare in no were near being conservative
 
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According to conservative media....he is a socialist. *laughs*

There is enough evidence that he is a conservative.....if you have some data challenging the op, feel free to post.

I would like to see your evidence that in your world that he is conservative.
 
Re: Why Obama is Republican/conservative

The only way he would be consider a Conservative if you already walk around with a hammer and sickle in each hand.


Obama Calls for Stricter Gun Laws as New Details Emerge in Major Shooting Cases | PBS NewsHour | March 28, 2013 | PBS

Conservative are against Gun control.

Health Reform in Action | The White House

Obamacare in no were near being conservative


Obama may call for a lot of things...doesn't mean he actually believes them......(Gun control is not in the op)

read the op again....
 
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I would like to see your evidence that in your world that he is conservative.

Its in the op...:shock:
 
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Obama may call for a lot of things...doesn't mean he actually believes them......(Gun control is not in the op)

read the op again....

I wasn't replying to the OP I was replying to your request. So don't give me that OP crap when it is easy to prove that Obama isn't a conservative
 
Re: Why Obama is Republican/conservative

I wasn't replying to the OP I was replying to your request. So don't give me that OP crap when it is easy to prove that Obama isn't a conservative

Obamacare is for corporate interest...
 
Re: Why Obama is Republican/conservative

According to conservative media....he is a socialist. *laughs*

There is enough evidence that he is a conservative.....if you have some data challenging the op, feel free to post.

Have you ever read his book? In it some of his favorite mentors growing up were known Communist.
 
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Obamacare is for corporate interest...

Please explain how a law is going to raise the cost of business and leave many people laid off being corporate interest?
 
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Have you ever read his book? In it some of his favorite mentors growing up were known Communist.

action speak louder than words...

just because he pick socialist teachers and talk about the dangers of american imperialism doesn't mean he is a socialist. Action speak louder than words...
 
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Please explain how a law is going to raise the cost of business and leave many people laid off being corporate interest?


No...the law is going to raise the cost of business though the ceo's/and shareholders aren't getting a salary cut..

obamacare is the same as the bailout for the auto industry...
 
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action speak louder than words...

just because he pick socialist teachers and talk about the dangers of american imperialism doesn't mean he is a socialist. Action speak louder than words...

So you agree then that he isn't a Conservative?
 
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No...the law is going to raise the cost of business though the ceo's/and shareholders aren't getting a salary cut..

obamacare is the same as the bailout for the auto industry...

Such stupidity is so overwhelming
 
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