Why not post your political lean?

[JohnLocke]

When people choose "undisclosed" as their political lean....why? Do they just not know? They don't want to be stereotyped by it?

So what people think of what I say as what it is. Not better or worse due to my political leaning

 

[Gardener]

Yeah I'm not really sure what's going on there. What's an "Islamist?" Are there "Christianists?"

While generally liberal, my "lean" depends greatly on the issue. Plus, simple liberal/conservative isn't a very good way to measure people's thinking in general, it's way too simplistic. I also don't want my posts to be pre-judged based on some label, so I left it blank.

The terms Islamist and Islamism are in general use, and refer to political Islam.

Since you are unfamiliar with such common political terms, perhaps you could avail yourself to many of the references on the net like this one:

Islamism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Harshaw]

:lamo

You just called Harshaw and MaggieD liberals, just in this thread....

I'm perfectly happy with the term, if used in its proper Anglo-Scottish Enlightenment sense.

 

[Redress]

I'm perfectly happy with the term, if used in its proper Anglo-Scottish Enlightenment sense.

That ain't how he meant it. You are a troop hating commie liberal. That is how he meant it.

 

[Harshaw]

Yes. I know.

 

[1069]

I can't figure out why anyone even cares. I never notice what anyone's "lean" is since it really doesn't matter. I read their posts and reply to them according to what's posted. The poster's "lean" is irrelevant.

As for why I didn't pick one, 1) I don't like boxes and I fail to see the point of them and 2) I don't fit into any of said boxes.

Ditto.
Except I don't care even more than you.
I notice you have a gender listed.

 

[Redress]

Yes. I know.

You need to start acting like one now. We need a good anti-Bush rant from you. Bonus points for saying Cheney wants America to be attacked.

 

[soccerboy22]

You need to start acting like one now. We need a good anti-Bush rant from you. Bonus points for saying Cheney wants America to be attacked.

He doesn't have to mock Beck or say socialism is the best? What about calling the Tea Party racist?

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

I don't remember what I chose, whether it's "Undisclosed" or "Other" or "Independent". I chose it because "fascist" and "authoritarian" were not available.

 

[rivrrat]

Ditto.
Except I don't care even more than you.
I notice you have a gender listed.

LOL I don't consider my gender a box any more than my hair color is one.

 

[Cold Highway]

Because it doesn't matter what you put people will call you whatever. I mean look at our libertarians. Many of them are called something by the left and something else by the right.

I wouldn't want it any other way, I enjoy the hatred I get from scum sucking warmongering chickenhawk statist conservatives here and likewise from bottom feeding warmongering statist chickenhawk liberals.

 

[samsmart]

But, do you have a foundation at all?

I don't see why a person has to follow what some other person who is more well known has to believe. We're all individuals, after all.

 

[Slartibartfast]

When people choose "undisclosed" as their political lean....why? Do they just not know? They don't want to be stereotyped by it?

I have mine posted. Slightly left, however, if you ask some of the people here, I am slightly left of marx, so its all in the eye of the beholder.

 

[roughdraft274]

I would assume because some poeple think idea's should be taken on merit rather than people's assumptions once they read a political lean.

 

[Deuce]

I would assume because some poeple think idea's should be taken on merit rather than people's assumptions once they read a political lean.

I'm a liberal therefore I think the government should do EVERYTHING.

 

[samsmart]

To answer the question, I don't post my political lean because there isn't a choice for a neopaleoprogressivist.

 

[Slartibartfast]

To answer the question, I don't post my political lean because there isn't a choice for a neopaleoprogressivist.

Ok. I'll bite. Google does not bring up anything when I search on that term. What dat be?

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Ok. I'll bite. Google does not bring up anything when I search on that term. What dat be?

Confusion. :2razz:

 

[Slartibartfast]

Confusion. :2razz:

This guy?

 

[imagep]

Because it doesn't matter what you put people will call you whatever. I mean look at our libertarians. Many of them are called something by the left and something else by the right.

Yup. Libertarians can lean left or right, although they all tend to have some common threads.

Me, I am a radical moderate, but there was no option for radical moderates. I am consistantly accused of being a radical right winger by those on the left and a socialist or communist by those on the right. I choose to side on common sense (at least my wacked out verson of common sense), regardless of whether my stance on a particular topic is considered liberal or conservative.

 

[imagep]

Confusion. :2razz:

Ooo ooo, that must be me. People tell me that I am confused all the time.

 

[samsmart]

Ok. I'll bite. Google does not bring up anything when I search on that term. What dat be?

Neopaleoprogressivism is what I call my political philosophy. It's based on much of the progressive philosophies of the 1880's and on, such as Teddy Roosevelt (which is why it is paleoprogressivism) but takes away much of the things that science and history has debunked or deemed unethical, such as government eugenic programs (which is what makes it neo).

In short, I believe that the government has the power to regulate businesses, and that there are some sectors in which the government can do a better job than private industry, but there are some sectors the government has no business nationalizing, but the government can still regulate.

So I'm mostly about regulations on businesses rather than nationalization or laissez-faire. So, economically, I'm a bit to the right of most liberals or a bit to the left of most conservatives.

I can't really call myself a "progressive" because I really do think that that term has been shangaied by liberals. I really don't know the difference between the Progressive Caucus in Congress and modern American liberal platforms. And "progressive conservative" is a contradiction in terms in today's political arena here in the U.S. So that's what I'm calling myself now - a neopaleoprogressivist.

 

[Geo Patric]

From what I have observed, nearly all the "Undisclosed" people are liberals that are too embarrassed to admit it. If I were of the progressive persuasion, I probably wouldn't admit it either.

that is a pretty good demonstration of your 'debating' technique. ascribe intnent to your opponent without ever bothering to draw a correlation between observation and conclusion... IF you can denigrate those who do not agree with you... which is to say anyone whose political view is not mired in 1957. nice job.

for the record, politically, i maintain my independence from parties which have their own agendas. philosophically, i am at least as liberal as any politician now holding national office and far more than most. because Liberalism is what this country is about... and always HAS been.

geo.

 

[Compatibilist]

From what I have observed, nearly all the "Undisclosed" people are liberals that are too embarrassed to admit it. If I were of the progressive persuasion, I probably wouldn't admit it either.

Don't know if their embarressed or ashamed of the label. But I also see a lot of lib support coming from people who don't id themselves for what they apparently believe.

 

[Dr_Patrick]

I really don't see what the big deal is with not posting a political lean? Is it so you can look at their political lean and try to use some stereotypical view of whatever they put against them? Few people fit into the cookie cutter molds that political leans offer. Many of us are liberal on some issues but conservative on others. Why does it matter? Does one political lean as opposed to another make us unworthy of discussing political issues?