wHY MOANING NON SMOKERS DESERVE TO DIE (1 Viewer)

[mikhail]

OK HERE goes these ****ing losers who moan about me smoking why do you care its like jealousy but that makes no sense what is the problem yes i smoke and i dont wanna quit you whinging ****s i have no problem with a bar banning smoking but it should be the individual bars choice dont you get that. How many people can you name who have DEFINETLY died from second hand smoke.**** faces all of you hope you all get parkinsons disease which is ironically something smoking will protect you against.Leave me alone .

 

[jfuh]

OK HERE goes these ****ing losers who moan about me smoking why do you care its like jealousy but that makes no sense what is the problem yes i smoke and i dont wanna quit you whinging ****s i have no problem with a bar banning smoking but it should be the individual bars choice dont you get that. How many people can you name who have DEFINETLY died from second hand smoke.**** faces all of you hope you all get parkinsons disease which is ironically something smoking will protect you against.Leave me alone .

So why should I as a non-smoker have to deal with your exhaust? Your smoke doesn't just disapper, it goes all over the place. Frankly I like to keep my lungs clean and clear of the tar expelled by a smoker.

 

[aps]

OK HERE goes these ****ing losers who moan about me smoking why do you care its like jealousy but that makes no sense what is the problem yes i smoke and i dont wanna quit you whinging ****s i have no problem with a bar banning smoking but it should be the individual bars choice dont you get that. How many people can you name who have DEFINETLY died from second hand smoke.**** faces all of you hope you all get parkinsons disease which is ironically something smoking will protect you against.Leave me alone .

Yikes! Banning smoking is actuall good for business. So why wouldn't they want to ban smoking? You want to slowly kill yourself? Be my guest, but please do it where it doesn't have an impact on me. And do me a favor--stop throwing your f**king cigarette butts on the ground. :roll:

Are smoking bans helping restaurants, bars?
New York City tax receipts, employment rise after 2002 ban

By Tom Costello
Correspondent
NBC News
Updated: 7:22 p.m. ET June 27, 2006

. . . So far, 14 states and Washington, D.C., have enacted some form of smoking ban. But Tuesday's report from the surgeon general suggests those bans don't hurt business. In fact, there's compelling evidence that it's quite the contrary.

In New York City, which banned smoking in 2002, tax receipts and employment in bars and restaurants jumped more than 8 percent after the ban. Same in Providence, R.I., and El Paso, Texas.

In Atlanta, restaurant owner Jeff Landau says his family business has actually picked up since Georgia’s smoking ban went into effect last year.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13580433/

 

[Jerry]

OK HERE goes these ****ing losers who moan about me smoking why do you care its like jealousy but that makes no sense what is the problem yes i smoke and i dont wanna quit you whinging ****s i have no problem with a bar banning smoking but it should be the individual bars choice dont you get that. How many people can you name who have DEFINETLY died from second hand smoke.**** faces all of you hope you all get parkinsons disease which is ironically something smoking will protect you against.Leave me alone .

Your pollution is creating a whole in my ozone and exacerbating human worming....or some other bs....

 

[aps]

And they might've figured that out if y'all'd spent less time passing socialist legislation, and more time frequenting bars and restraunts that already didn't allow smoking :2wave:

And just for reference, I only throw cigarettes to the ground places where it makes a difference.

For example, beautiful country side, quaint small towns, etc, I pocket my butts till I get home. Downtown Iowa City, I honestly don't give a **** (and Indiana, you can shove your $10,000 fine up your ***. Yeah, it's the cigarette butts that makes northwest Indiana disgusting, not all of the poverty and industrial waste :roll: )

Now I won't go as far to say that you all deserve to die...yet :2razz:
I understand where you're coming from, I remember when I was young I'd go to these punk rock shows, and although I was already a smoker, I was 13, thus not much of a smoker, and being in a closed space that's completely filled with smoke isn't fun when you're not used to it.


The problem with this whole situation is no one on either side feels compelled to extend the kindness and respect that could alleviate the tension.

Like, those on your side are assholes because you don't give a **** about us at all.

And those on my side are assholes because relatively few of us give a **** about you.

We could work together, and come up with a fair solution, but no one wants to do that (because everyone wants legislative proof that their side is right). For example, if you want to ban smoking from the workplaces, that's fine, but then don't complain when we need cigarette breaks. We shouldn't drop our cigarettes on the ground, but it's disgusting to carry cigarette butts (which smell about 10 times stronger than actual burning cigarettes) in our pockets all day, so why not set up more public ashtrays?

We could set up nice outside smoking areas in bars, heated, sheilded from the elements, have tables and ashtrays, make it nice, and then smokers would have no excuse to smoke inside.

I like your idea about the smoking areas. I love your idea about setting up more public ashtrays, but who would then clean them out? If you're in your car, why wouldn't you use the ashtray that is designed specifically for cigarettes? How come people cannot put out the cigarette and then put it in a trash receptacle?

I would LOVE for them to come out with a smokeless cigarette. That would be fabulous.

 

[aps]

As far as who would clean out the public ashtrays, why not the same people who empty public trash cans?

LMAO! Ummm, why didn't I think of that? :shock:

 

[mikhail]

In response i smoke it was legal when i started i contribute alot of tax money to my society(more than the proven medical cost of me smoking).

These people are so petty its like you will get some fat guy coming up to you who dont even know giving me advice on health.

The risk of passive smoking is insignificant and fair enough have no smoking bars etc people dont like the smell but i will tell you this seperate the smokers from non smokers and you are still gonna get non smokers in the smoking bars.

I think bill hicks put it best "non smokers die everyday"

or maybe dennis leary "smoking takes 5 years of your life but its the worst years isnt it folks its the ones at the end".




Live fast die young smoke

 

[Jay R]

For example, if you want to ban smoking from the workplaces, that's fine, but then don't complain when we need cigarette breaks.

That's fine until an employer decides that with all else being equal it will always favour the non-smoker over the smoker as they will not require extra breaks for their addiction. Then it's prejudicial hiring practice, smokers protest that in court, court then has to either rule all businesses must make special provision for smokers (breaks, areas, etc) or that they are within their rights to hire only non-smokers.

Are you refering to specific cigarette breaks for smokers, or just a break that can be used for coffee, cigarettes, gossiping by the vending machine, by all staff?

Would an alcoholic get a special break at work for their addiction? :lol:

 

[pendulum_jaw]

We could work together, and come up with a fair solution, but no one wants to do that (because everyone wants legislative proof that their side is right). For example, if you want to ban smoking from the workplaces, that's fine, but then don't complain when we need cigarette breaks. We shouldn't drop our cigarettes on the ground, but it's disgusting to carry cigarette butts (which smell about 10 times stronger than actual burning cigarettes) in our pockets all day, so why not set up more public ashtrays?

We could set up nice outside smoking areas in bars, heated, sheilded from the elements, have tables and ashtrays, make it nice, and then smokers would have no excuse to smoke inside.

You might want to rethink whether you are a libertarian or not...

 

[nineplus]

.....i have no problem with a bar banning smoking but it should be the individual bars choice dont you get that......

I'm a non-smoker and don't like being smoked around in confined areas, don't care for butts in the streets, hate the smell on people and can't stand walking into a room with smoke hanging............I also tend to believe workplaces are healthier without the cloud and businesses can thrive even after declaring themselves smoke-free zones.

that said, I agree whole-heartedly with your above statement..............I think the government should butt out of it too. (kewl pun eh??)

 

[::Major_Baker::]

I'm a non-smoker and don't like being smoked around in confined areas, don't care for butts in the streets, hate the smell on people and can't stand walking into a room with smoke hanging............I also tend to believe workplaces are healthier without the cloud and businesses can thrive even after declaring themselves smoke-free zones.

that said, I agree whole-heartedly with your above statement..............I think the government should butt out of it too. (kewl pun eh??)

I hold the same position. I love the ban here in minneapolis, even though I would argue its 'legality'.
But I'm not going to fight it--I'll leave that to the militant smokers with lots of energy...

But with me being an ex-smoker (one year without tobacco on July 24th), the clean-air bars are great!

 

[pendulum_jaw]

You're gonna question my Libertarian credibility? You?

When a person claiming to be a Libertarian makes a statement implying they would support a law regulating how a private company conducts its business, one has to wonder whether that person has correctly labelled himself.

We need to approach the debate trying to find an actual solution, instead of just whipping out our ***** and sword fighting. And that's the point I was trying to make, reasonable concessions need to be made by both side, but in the end it's not the government's business.

So you would not support regulation, then?