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Why Is Trump Spouting Russian Propaganda?

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Why Is Trump Spouting Russian Propaganda?

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Donald Trump speaks during a Cabinet meeting on January 2, 2019.

1/3/19
It was only one moment in a 90-minute stream of madness. President Donald Trump convened a Cabinet meeting, at which he invited all its members to praise him for his stance on the border wall and the government shutdown. There’s always a lively competition to see which member of the Cabinet can grovel most abjectly. The newcomer Matthew Whitaker may be only the acting attorney general, but despite—or perhaps because of—that tentative status, he delivered one of the strongest entries, saluting the president for sacrificing his Christmas and New Year’s holiday for the public good, and contrasting that to members of Congress who had left Washington during the Trump-created crisis. But that was not the crazy part. The crazy part came during the president’s monologue defending his decision to withdraw all 2,000 U.S. troops from Syria and 7,000 from Afghanistan, about half the force in that country.

  • “Russia used to be the Soviet Union. Afghanistan made it Russia, because they went bankrupt fighting in Afghanistan. Russia … the reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there. The problem is, it was a tough fight. And literally they went bankrupt; they went into being called Russia again, as opposed to the Soviet Union. You know, a lot of these places you’re reading about now are no longer part of Russia, because of Afghanistan.”
Let’s go to the replay: “The reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there.”

Here’s why Trump’s lopsided view of this story is so telling. Inflicting that defeat on the U.S.S.R. was a major bipartisan foreign-policy priority of the 1980s. The policy was designed by Jimmy Carter’s national-security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and executed by the Reagan administration. It’s amazing enough that any U.S. president would retrospectively endorse the Soviet invasion. What’s even more amazing is that he would do so using the very same falsehoods originally invoked by the Soviets themselves: “terrorists” and “bandit elements.” It has been an important ideological project of the Putin regime to rehabilitate and justify the Soviet invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. It’s fitting that Putin’s campaign to reimpose official lying would culminate in a glorification of the catastrophic Afghanistan war. And clearly, that campaign has swayed the mind of the president of the United States. As of mid-morning on January 3, the day after the president’s repetition of Soviet-Putinist propaganda in the Cabinet room, there has been no attempt by the White House to tidy things up: no presidential tweet, no corrective statement. The president’s usual defenders—Sean Hannity, Fox & Friends, the anti-anti-Trump Twitter chorus—have likewise ignored the whole matter. They’re back to denouncing the Steele dossier, fulminating against Mueller, and reprising the Clinton-email drama. There’s apparently nothing they can think of to say in exoneration or excuse.

Yet another recent example of Trumps "alternative truths". This time borrowing from Kremlin disinformation.
 
So there were no Islamic terrorists in the former Soviet Union?

Trump is citing the problems with Afghanistan, but, of course, the flaming idiots of the Fake News completely miss that, and then LIE ABOUT what he actually said..AGAIN. And here you are ABETTING THE LIE(s)...AGAIN...instead of recognizing the loss of American lives there, especially under the Obama-era "rules of engagement"...designed to HELP OUR ENEMIES THERE.

It's time to **** or get off the pot there...but, of course, in the Attack Trump Frothy-Mouthed Frenzy you are a daily proponent of, YOU IGNORE THAT.
 
So there were no Islamic terrorists in the former Soviet Union?

Trump is citing the problems with Afghanistan, but, of course, the flaming idiots of the Fake News completely miss that, and then LIE ABOUT what he actually said..AGAIN. And here you are ABETTING THE LIE(s)...AGAIN..

St Petersburg checks in again. Thanks for playing.
 
So there were no Islamic terrorists in the former Soviet Union?

Trump is citing the problems with Afghanistan, but, of course, the flaming idiots of the Fake News completely miss that, and then LIE ABOUT what he actually said..AGAIN. And here you are ABETTING THE LIE(s)...AGAIN..

No one else shares this version of history other than Trump.

And Putin.

Putin is in Donny's ear. Get used to it.
 
St Petersburg checks in again. Thanks for playing.


The "Keep Lying About Trump to Cover For Putin's Bitch Contingent Checks In Again".


More like YOU GOT PLAYED....



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Nice eyesore! :2wave:
 
So there were no Islamic terrorists in the former Soviet Union?

Trump is citing the problems with Afghanistan, but, of course, the flaming idiots of the Fake News completely miss that, and then LIE ABOUT what he actually said..AGAIN. And here you are ABETTING THE LIE(s)...AGAIN...instead of recognizing the loss of American lives there, especially under the Obama-era "rules of engagement"...designed to HELP OUR ENEMIES THERE.

It's time to **** or get off the pot there...but, of course, in the Attack Trump Frothy-Mouthed Frenzy you are a daily proponent of, YOU IGNORE THAT.

:lamo

Do you have any evidence that Obama intended to help the Taliban like you claim?

Or is this yet another Trump cult temper tantrum meltdown over the fact that people don't spinelessly worship him?
 
Why Is Trump Spouting Russian Propaganda?

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Donald Trump speaks during a Cabinet meeting on January 2, 2019.



Yet another recent example of Trumps "alternative truths". This time borrowing from Kremlin disinformation.

It's amazing to think that The Atlantic would attempt to rewrite history to further their own anti-Trump agenda, but that's exactly what they are doing here.

Here is the reality when it comes to the Dems working with the Russians during the Carter and Reagan days: https://www.newsmax.com/Reagan/democrats-russia-ronald-reagan/2016/12/13/id/763730/ (don't worry, it's a short read)

Some things never change, do they? Hillary worked with Russians to prevent Trump from winning his election, too.
 
:lamo

Do you have any evidence that Obama intended to help the Taliban like you claim?

Or is this yet another Trump cult temper tantrum meltdown over the fact that people don't spinelessly worship him?

Obviously..the RULES of Engagement HE INSTITUTED there, were of GREAT BENEFTI to our enemies, as they have NO SUCH RESTRICTIONS.


Democrats treat the military like it's a college intramural sports league.
 
I love it. The Trump faithful can only reply with "but HIllary!!!". That's so depressing given the topic of this thread and the very real actions taking by this POTUS who is cool with betraying America.
 
Obviously..the RULES of Engagement HE INSTITUTED there, were of GREAT BENEFTI to our enemies, as they have NO SUCH RESTRICTIONS.


Democrats treat the military like it's a college intramural sports league.

OBVIOUSLY......you have no proof and you think that you can avoid that by going on yet another caps lock filled hysterical rant.

Trump cultists treat the military like it's the enemy, judging from the spineless support for Trump's attacks on POWs and the family of a war hero.
 
So he is saying that the U.S. was on the wrong side during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Reagan and Carter were wrong oppose the invasion. OK, got it. We should have helped the Soviets back then.

Wow. This guy really could shoot someone.
 
OBVIOUSLY......you have no proof and you think that you can avoid that by going on yet another caps lock filled hysterical rant.

Trump cultists treat the military like it's the enemy, judging from the spineless support for Trump's attacks on POWs and the family of a war hero.

Trump does not require our troops to wait until they are fired upon to fire at our enemies, unlike Mommy Pants Ankle Grabber did.

FEEL FREE to COMMMENT ON CAPS, etc., in the face of the EMBARASSING TRUTH.
 
Gary Kasparov just put out a good article about Trump's use of Putin propaganda.

Donald Trump, master revisionist: What he said about Afghanistan, and what it says about him

The only beneficiary of Trump making this wild claim is the person who originated it: Vladimir Putin. State-controlled Russian media are delighted to have the American President’s endorsement of the right to invade neighboring countries under the flimsiest of pretexts. Nor is this the first time Trump has shared an oddly specific non-sequitur in line with Kremlin talking points. Last summer he suddenly criticized new NATO member Montenegro, which was the target of a Russian coup plot in 2016.
 
Hillary worked with Russians to prevent Trump from winning his election, too.

Right. She handed her emails to Russia so they could wind up on Wikileaks.

Everyone knows this bit of "alternative history" :lamo
 
Trump does not require our troops to wait until they are fired upon to fire at our enemies, unlike Mommy Pants Ankle Grabber did.

FEEL FREE to COMMMENT ON CAPS, etc., in the face of the EMBARASSING TRUTH.

Your own sexual habits are not relevant to the topic bud. Try to keep your fantasies about Obama to yourself.

The EMBARASSING TRUTH is that you have humiliated yourself.....again.

Again, that is not proof that Obama wanted to support the Taliban, or did so in any way.
 
Looks like FBI might be getting on the case in this duzy...


FBI will investigate where Trump got made-up Russian history of Afghanistan invasion: Former intel chief

On Friday, Trump’s retelling of history was brought up by a US journalist with two experts, former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence Frank Figliuzzi and Gen. Barry McCaffrey (Ret.).

McCaffrey called the presidential statement astonishing.“It sounds as if the talking points are written by the GRU… This is a truly astonishing, ignorant statement by the president.”

Figliuzzi said American counterintelligence agencies will want to know where Trump got his warped ideas about the subject.

“The counterintelligence side is going to take a look at why it is our president is siding with a communist regime claiming that the Russians were ‘right’ to go into Afghanistan,” Figliuzzi said. “They’re going to want to know the reasoning behind that, and where it’s coming from.”

There may be a “benign” explanation, but this may be another sign that Trump has been compromised by Russia.

“The FBI is going to look at it even more deeply to say, look, there are a couple of other options, once you set aside incompetence,” he said. “There’s another option, the president has deliberately chosen to regurgitate the Putin line, the Russian line on this, because he somehow needs to paint Russia in the most favorable light, and why is that?”

Asking this type of question is exactly how counterintelligence investigations get started, Figliuzzi said.

“We need to help understand whether that’s because it serves his agenda to appease Russia, to say to them, ‘You may have compromised me, we may have a problem here, but I’m on your side.’ And, look, while this sounds like conjecture to many people, this is what counterintelligence agents do for a living.”


https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/worl...he-era-of-containing-trump-is-over/ar-BBRjUSb



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Right. She handed her emails to Russia so they could wind up on Wikileaks.

Everyone knows this bit of "alternative history" :lamo

No. She paid them money so they'd make up dirt on Trump. (Do you remember the "pee tape"?)
 
Looks like FBI might be getting on the case in this duzy...


FBI will investigate where Trump got made-up Russian history of Afghanistan invasion: Former intel chief

On Friday, Trump’s retelling of history was brought up by a US journalist with two experts, former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence Frank Figliuzzi and Gen. Barry McCaffrey (Ret.).

McCaffrey called the presidential statement astonishing.“It sounds as if the talking points are written by the GRU… This is a truly astonishing, ignorant statement by the president.”

Figliuzzi said American counterintelligence agencies will want to know where Trump got his warped ideas about the subject.

“The counterintelligence side is going to take a look at why it is our president is siding with a communist regime claiming that the Russians were ‘right’ to go into Afghanistan,” Figliuzzi said. “They’re going to want to know the reasoning behind that, and where it’s coming from.”

There may be a “benign” explanation, but this may be another sign that Trump has been compromised by Russia.

“The FBI is going to look at it even more deeply to say, look, there are a couple of other options, once you set aside incompetence,” he said. “There’s another option, the president has deliberately chosen to regurgitate the Putin line, the Russian line on this, because he somehow needs to paint Russia in the most favorable light, and why is that?”

Asking this type of question is exactly how counterintelligence investigations get started, Figliuzzi said.

“We need to help understand whether that’s because it serves his agenda to appease Russia, to say to them, ‘You may have compromised me, we may have a problem here, but I’m on your side.’ And, look, while this sounds like conjecture to many people, this is what counterintelligence agents do for a living.”


https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/worl...he-era-of-containing-trump-is-over/ar-BBRjUSb



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LOL!!

A talking potato head spouts off with nonsense and you think this means the FBI will actually investigate something?

Now that is funny. Pathetic...but funny.
 
LOL!!
A talking potato head spouts off with nonsense and you think this means the FBI will actually investigate something?
Now that is funny. Pathetic...but funny.

Talking potato head? Why do you always write this? It makes your posts look stupid.
They guy saying it will be looked into, is an expert:
former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence

But Mycroft disagrees, because Mycroft posts pure partisan nonsense, supporters conspiracy theories, and calls them "potato heads"?

Get some new material Mycroft, we see through all your bull**** at this point.

But no, please explain both your:
- expertise on the matter vs the former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence
- why this is the third time Trump has spouted off Russian propaganda lies to the public

If you don't know, perhaps it should be investigated by counter-intelligence? Do tell.
 
LOL!!

A talking potato head spouts off with nonsense and you think this means the FBI will actually investigate something?

Now that is funny. Pathetic...but funny.


Trump and his Acting AG Whitaker with FBI will need to work this through whether internally, openly or both. This is yet another instance of how Putin-Trump-Fanboys are reduced to playing defense and deflection in addition to trying to cover their defection.
 
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