Why Is No One (Except the President) Calling Out Kamala Harris’s Communist Ties?

[Conservative]

Republicans have nothing. They can't get anything to stick on Harris or Biden. Nothing. Even Trump's advisors are admitting it. Hunter Bidengate is a complete dud. Now they're trying to paint Kamala as a communist? LOL.

They're going to get their collective asses kicked so hard they'll be tasting shoe polish for a generation.

You tell me what in the Biden/Harris agenda promotes America better than the private sector promoted by Trump the last four years? You buy rhetoric, have no idea what is wrong with people like you, probably youth

 

[Dans La Lune]

You tell me what in the Biden/Harris agenda promotes America better than the private sector promoted by Trump the last four years? You buy rhetoric, have no idea what is wrong with people like you, probably youth

Trump is a crony corporatist who selectively engages in socialism in order to mitigate the catastrophic results of his policies.

 

[Conservative]

Trump is a crony corporatist who selectively engages in socialism in order to mitigate the catastrophic results of his policies.

Tell that to the 6.6 million NEW taxpayers created in his first three years in office and to those African Americans who were part of the historic low African American unemployment rate. Stunning ignorance of data is on full display as bubble liberals like you have no idea what is going on around you and only buy what the left tells you. BLS.gov has the context

 

[Conservative]

Trump is a crony corporatist who selectively engages in socialism in order to mitigate the catastrophic results of his policies.

This is the party that you support

 

[ElChupacabra]

You show what a waste of time it is dealing with people so indoctrinated into the entitlement mentality of liberalism that nothing will ever blast through that indoctrination. You have no understanding at all of how gov't influences and takes over specific industries in those utopian socialist countries you seem to want to emulate here.

Indoctrinated? I once again point out the flaw in your argument, and you come back with this deflection. I have not made any ideological comment, but rather, pointed out your conflation of objections to over regulation and socialism. Nowhere have I stated any other country is a utopia, but you insist on bring in topics I did not address. What would be helpful is if you provided actual examples of how the government "takes over specific industries" rather than just making broad generalizations.

You ignore the foundation upon which this country was created and ignore how massive the central gov't has become and how much bigger it will become under Biden. Your idea of liberal utopia ignores individual wealth creation, incentive, personal responsibilities, and equal opportunity NOT equal outcome. I have a 14 year old granddaughter smarter than most liberals here, one who has been taught personal responsibility, to celebrate success, to focus on individual wealth creation and not to depend on a federal bureaucrat for help but rather family and neighbors when needed. 4.8 trillion dollar budget doesn't seem to be enough for you, higher taxes are called for by you, and total ignorance of the private sector is on full display here. A gov't big enough to provide you with everything you want is also big enough to take it away. You need only to look at Venezuela and Argentina for examples of gov't control and the march to socialism and the results of those policies

This is just a typical conflation of topics rather than having a focused discussion on a specific one; I'm just surprised you went off the rails so quickly. For your comment to mean anything, you'll have to explain how many other top economic countries manage to maintain productivity and incentive despite having robust social programs.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

And why exactly is that? I don't expect you to pay for my personal responsibility issues like healthcare why do you expect me to pay for yours? Do you have any idea where the money comes from to fund those kind of programs?

I have explained why already in this very thread. If you actually searched for the answer to your question, it would arm you with the knowledge to understand the ideology that you are up against. Ignorance is never a strength. Whether you agree with an idea or not, it will always serve you better to understand the idea, even if only to help you dismantle it.

Do you have any idea where the money comes from to fund those kind of programs?

Taxes.

Then why don't you cherish those freedoms including freedom of choice?

I do. I still have freedom of choice. Do you realize that choices have consequences? If you choose to purchase something, you have to give up the payment. You don't get to purchase something and still have the freedom to spend that money on something else. You have the choice of where to spend your money, but once that money is spent, that choice is also gone.

You can't complain of no longer having the freedom to choose where your money goes after you spend it on pizza. That money belongs to the pizzeria now, and the pizzeria gets to choose where that money goes.

You are certainly easily indoctrinated into that entitlement mentality, why are you entitled to having someone pay for your healthcare?

I know the answer to that question. If you were interested in the answer, you would know it too. You clearly intend it as a rhetorical question meant to chastise me, but if you actually sought the answer, you would be bettered armed.

Yes it would, what taxes, federal, state, or local?

If you are interested in European tax structures, you can read all about it here. How are tax structures in Europe relevant to the discussion?

And that bothers you why? Do you honestly believe world statistics, China with 1.4 billion people and only 85000 cases? The U.S. is the best, the best in allowing people the freedoms to make choices. You want to focus on infections but not recovery, you want to focus on Europe's universal healthcare while ignoring that 98% of Americans don't have the virus and our 2.6% death to infection rate is below the world's average and most of the top rated European countries with Universal healthcare

Even by your own metric, and your own numbers, universal healthcare in Germany is still beating us at 2.3%. Why is that, if there is no incentive in Germany?

 

[Conservative]

I have explained why already in this very thread. If you actually searched for the answer to your question, it would arm you with the knowledge to understand the ideology that you are up against. Ignorance is never a strength. Whether you agree with an idea or not, it will always serve you better to understand the idea, even if only to help you dismantle it.

Sorry but at 73 years old I don't understand why someone else should be paying for my health insurance, wasn't raised that way, were you?

Taxes.

Yes and when taxes are paid where do the people get the money to purchase goods and services they want and need?

I do. I still have freedom of choice. Do you realize that choices have consequences? If you choose to purchase something, you have to give up the payment. You don't get to purchase something and still have the freedom to spend that money on something else. You have the choice of where to spend your money, but once that money is spent, that choice is also gone.

With Universal Healthcare where is the incentive for Businesses to offer private health insurance to their employees then where do the doctors come from when you destroy individual wealth incentive? Of course there are choices that have consequences both good and bad, you want a world with no consequences therefore always blame someone else for poor choices even you make. AS I stated when the gov't takes more of your income in taxes where do you get the extra income to purchase of what you want

You can't complain of no longer having the freedom to choose where your money goes after you spend it on pizza. That money belongs to the pizzeria now, and the pizzeria get's to choose where that money goes.

No but you have the choice whether to spend the money on pizza? Yes that is the way it works, you spend money on a pizza and the pizza maker uses that money to hire someone to help him make those pizzas. That owner has a choice, hire more people or cut back on production

I know the answer to that question. If you were interested in the answer, you would know it too. You clearly intend it as a rhetorical question meant to chastise me, but if you actually sought the answer, you would be bettered armed.

I know the answer, the same person I look at in the mirror each and every day, not you, or any other taxpayer if you pay taxes

If you are interested in European tax structures, you can read all about it here. How are tax structures in Europe relevant to the discussion?

Of course its relevant here as it costs money for those programs and the less money you have the less you have to spend on helping your neighbor

Even by your own metric, and your own numbers, universal healthcare in Germany is still beating us at 2.3%. Why is that, if there is no incentive in Germany?

Yes that is one country a country of 84 million in an area the size of Montana. Isn't it easier to control activity in smaller sized areas? Not being condescending but how old are you? Seems you lack basic economics, civics, and history skills and understanding of the foundation upon which this country was built. I don't recognize the country that people like you want to have after 73 year on this earth

 

[Conservative]

Indoctrinated? I once again point out the flaw in your argument, and you come back with this deflection. I have not made any ideological comment, but rather, pointed out your conflation of objections to over regulation and socialism. Nowhere have I stated any other country is a utopia, but you insist on bring in topics I did not address. What would be helpful is if you provided actual examples of how the government "takes over specific industries" rather than just making broad generalizations.



This is just a typical conflation of topics rather than having a focused discussion on a specific one; I'm just surprised you went off the rails so quickly. For your comment to mean anything, you'll have to explain how many other top economic countries manage to maintain productivity and incentive despite having robust social programs.

No what you ignore is that regulations and taxes are a way of controlling production and distribution the hallmark of socialism. You continue to buy liberal rhetoric that the Harris/Biden programs will be funded by only the top basic 1% of the population ignoring that about 45% of the working public doesn't pay any Federal Income Taxes so how much does the Harris/Biden proposals cost?

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

Sorry but at 73 years old I don't understand why someone else should be paying for my health insurance, wasn't raised that way, were you?

Would you like to understand? Do you understand why someone else should pay for a military to protect you, instead of hiring your own private mercenary force?

 

[ElChupacabra]

No what you ignore is that regulations and taxes are a way of controlling production and distribution the hallmark of socialism. You continue to buy liberal rhetoric that the Harris/Biden programs will be funded by only the top basic 1% of the population ignoring that about 45% of the working public doesn't pay any Federal Income Taxes so how much does the Harris/Biden proposals cost?

That is simply incorrect. Regardless of the taxation and regulation, those business entities are still privately owned. By your logic, any attempt at regulating anything is "the hallmark of socialism" which is absurd.

 

[Conservative]

Would you like to understand? Do you understand why someone else should pay for a military to protect you, instead of hiring your own private mercenary force?

Yes I understand the role of the federal gov't, you apparently don't, PROVIDE for the common defense!! PROMOTE not PROVIDE for Domestic Welfare. Do you know the difference between PROVIDE and PROMOTE??

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

Yes I understand the role of the federal gov't, you apparently don't, PROVIDE for the common defense!! PROMOTE not PROVIDE for Domestic Welfare. Do you know the difference between PROVIDE and PROMOTE??

I do know the difference. Do you?

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;" - US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

 

[Conservative]

I do know the difference. Do you?

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;" - US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

I don't see any reason to continue this as you apparently aren't mature enough to have an honest debate on the issues. Preamble to the Constitution

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The U.S. Constitution: Preamble

The preamble sets the stage for the Constitution. It is an introduction to the highest law of the land; it is not the law. It communicates the intentions of the framers and purpose of the document.

www.uscourts.gov

Politicians changed that preamble to assure themselves of career positions and people like you buying that bs

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

I don't see any reason to continue this as you apparently aren't mature enough to have an honest debate on the issues. Preamble to the Constitution

The U.S. Constitution: Preamble

The preamble sets the stage for the Constitution. It is an introduction to the highest law of the land; it is not the law. It communicates the intentions of the framers and purpose of the document.

www.uscourts.gov

So you are saying that you never made it past the preamble, yet you feel qualified to lecture someone who has read the entire Constitution along with the Federalist Papers. I cited you the actual article, section and clause which stipulates that Congress has the power to collect taxes to provide for the general welfare. I will cite it for you again:

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;" - US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

Is your argument that the preamble of the founders negates the actual articles of the Constitution put forth by those same founders?

Politicians changed that preamble to assure themselves of career positions and people like you buying that bs

Good point.* Since the 'politicians changed that preamble to assure themselves of career positions' we can ignore the preamble that speaks of promoting the general welfare, and focus instead on the actual article which declares the power of Congress to collect taxes in order to provide for the general welfare.



*Just kidding, it's not really a good point at all. This entire idea of the preamble being changed is a bunch of conspiracy theory level nonsense.

 

[Conservative]

So you are saying that you never made it past the preamble, yet you feel qualified to lecture someone who has read the entire Constitution along with the Federalist Papers. I cited you the actual article, section and clause which stipulates that Congress has the power to collect taxes to provide for the general welfare. I will cite it for you again:

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;" - US Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 1

Is your argument that the preamble of the founders negates the actual articles of the Constitution put forth by those same founders?



Good point.* Since the 'politicians changed that preamble to assure themselves of career positions' we can ignore the preamble that speaks of promoting the general welfare, and focus instead on the actual article which declares the power of Congress to collect taxes in order to provide for the general welfare.



*Just kidding, it's not really a good point at all. This entire idea of the preamble being changed is a bunch of conspiracy theory level nonsense.

The Preamble was created BEFORE politicians got in charge and realized how easy it was to create career jobs and power. What part of that don't you understand and why is it so hard for you to admit the true role of the Federal gov't? you don't seem to understand the role of the state and federal gov't which is exactly what Biden/Harris are counting on

By all means the Preamble set up the Constitution, the body was changed to meet political needs of the individuals, when was the preamble created and this statement inserted?

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

The Preamble was created BEFORE politicians got in charge and realized how easy it was to create career jobs and power. What part of that don't you understand and why is it so hard for you to admit the true role of the Federal gov't? you don't seem to understand the role of the state and federal gov't which is exactly what Biden/Harris are counting on

By all means the Preamble set up the Constitution, the body was changed to meet political needs of the individuals, when was the preamble created and this statement inserted?

The preamble was one of the very last parts of the Constitution to be written. All of the articles of the constitution had been written, debated, and voted on from May 25 to Sept 8, 1787. Gouverneur Morris wrote the preamble sometime between the September 8 formation of the Committee of Style and the signing of the Constitution on Sept 17.

Aside from being wrong about the preamble having been written first, it didn't take you long to throw the US Constitution under the bus once you discovered that it disagreed with your misconceptions did it? Are you standing by your assertion that we should ignore the Constitution because it was written by a bunch of self-serving politicians? To be honest, I don't revere what a bunch of slaveholders had to say either, so that's fine by me.

The true role of any government is to serve as a means for the assets of a nation to be pooled in such a way as to serve that nation with an advantageous economy of scale, and to provide and enforce a set of rules that allow for orderly functioning of that nation. The pooling of assets, typically by means of taxation, allows for nations to undertake public works that no individual could afford on their own.

 

[Conservative]

The preamble was one of the very last parts of the Constitution to be written. All of the articles of the constitution had been written, debated, and voted on from May 25 to Sept 8, 1787. Gouverneur Morris wrote the preamble sometime between the September 8 formation of the Committee of Style and the signing of the Constitution on Sept 17.

Aside from being wrong about the preamble having been written first, it didn't take you long to throw the US Constitution under the bus once you discovered that it disagreed with your misconceptions did it? Are you standing by your assertion that we should ignore the Constitution because it was written by a bunch of self-serving politicians? To be honest, I don't revere what a bunch of slaveholders had to say either, so that's fine by me.

The true role of any government is to serve as a means for the assets of a nation to be pooled in such a way
as to serve that nation with an advantageous economy of scale, and to provide and enforce a set of rules that allow for orderly functioning of that nation. The pooling of assets, typically by means of taxation, allows for nations to undertake public works that no individual could afford on their own.

I have no idea who you are but you have no idea what you are talking about as usual

The preamble sets the stage for the Constitution (Archives.gov). It clearly communicates the intentions of the framers and the purpose of the document. The preamble is an introduction to the highest law of the land; it is not the law. It does not define government powers or individual rights.

The Constitution wasn't signed until September 1787 AFTER the preamble. A preamble set the stage for the Constitution not the other way around. It is truly amazing how brilliant you think you are, no logic, no common sense, and certainly no understanding of basic civics, economics or history

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

I have no idea who you are but you have no idea what you are talking about as usual

The preamble sets the stage for the Constitution (Archives.gov). It clearly communicates the intentions of the framers and the purpose of the document. The preamble is an introduction to the highest law of the land; it is not the law. It does not define government powers or individual rights.

The preamble was one of the finishing touches to the final draft of the Constitution, written by Gouverneur Morris in his role on the Committee of Style which was not even formed until Sept 8, after all of the Articles had already been written. The Preamble was written after Article I, Section 8, Clause 1. I'm sorry that this easily verifiable fact makes you uncomfortable.

It is truly amazing how brilliant you think you are, no logic, no common sense, and certainly no understanding of basic civics, economics or history

I think anyone reading can easily follow my links or make a 30-second search on their favorite search engine to figure out which of us has a better grasp of history.

 

[Conservative]

The preamble was one of the finishing touches to the final draft of the Constitution, written by Gouverneur Morris in his role on the Committee of Style which was not even formed until Sept 8, after all of the Articles had already been written. The Preamble was written after Article I, Section 8, Clause 1. I'm sorry that this easily verifiable fact makes you uncomfortable.



I think anyone reading can easily follow my links or make a 30-second search on their favorite search engine to figure out which of us has a better grasp of history.

I doubt that anyone else is following this discussion and really has very little interest in your opinions which are based upon total and complete ignorance of reality. I am done with this argument and done with you,

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

I doubt that anyone else is following this discussion and really has very little interest in your opinions which are based upon total and complete ignorance of reality. I am done with this argument and done with you,

I provided links to information on the Preamble of the Constitution, and how it was written by Gouverneur Morris in his role on the Committee of Style, after all of the Articles had already been written.

If you have some evidence to back your assertion that the Preamble was written prior to Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 why don't you present it?

Also I am curious to hear if you are standing by your assertion that the actual articles of the Constitution should be ignored in determining the role of the Federal Government. Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 clearly states that Congress can impose taxes to provide for the general welfare. Do you oppose the US Constitution?

 

[goldkam]

Here is what is clear, you are a bubble entitlement radical liberal expecting someone else to pay for your personal responsibility issues. I don't expect you to pay for mine why do you expect me as a taxpayer to pay for yours?

So why am I paying for the roads so you can drive on them?
So why am I paying for the infrastructure for you to use?
So why am I paying taxes to fund schools for you and your family?

Quite simply the American healthcare system has failed to deliver affordable and effective care and this is been rectified through partial state intervention because the private sector could not rectify this matter. Healthcare is a right, a fundamental human right and how are people supposed to be able to access this right if they can't afford it, aren't covered by the necessary provisions or it doesn't protect them in the necessary ways.

Not radical liberal....common sense.

You want the President to be held accountable for what exactly? Pre 2016 events or activities while President?

To be accountable for their actions and words regarding previous events. Would you expect President Obama to condemn the 9/11 terrorist attacks, even though it was prior to him coming into office in 2008?

Homosexuality is a state and local issue not a federal one and doesn't resonate with the majority in this country

That is simply untrue....you really need to emerge from your conservative bubble and talk to people. I am not denying it is not a local and state issue...does that mean we shouldn't worry about it?
Typical view of..."if it doesn't affect me I don't need to care"

Disagreeing with slavery has no place in this election as slavery doesn't exist in this country

Don't change the topic or distort what I said. You called me anti-American for condemning the founders for supporting slavery. So you support a literal reading of the Founders words in todays society?

Disagreeing with policies of the other party is part of politics, politics of personal destruction have no place in any election so how about discussing the issues and how Trump has personally affected you and your family the last four years?

I agree. In just the same way truth and accuracy should be a fundamental part of politics.

Simply.....its not only the impact its whether he reflects my values, my beliefs or my ideals and quite frankly he doesn't.

You are so totally biased buying the liberal rhetoric and ignoring the reality of the Russia issue, NATO us stronger because of Trump, our enemies once again fear this country and our status as world policeman isn't being promoted, time for allies to defend themselves with the help of NATO and the U.S. is still the major contributor. Stop buying what you are told. I voted for Trump last Tuesday based upon the results generated from his economic policies not the results generated by governors who are preventing people from benefiting from those policies

I actually do my research....I bother to understand the issues. I am proud to have my own view and my own opinion and not be bullied by this weak game of politics you play. Calling me a liberal, left and biased. That is all irrelevant...your feelings are getting in the way of your ability to state facts.

What is the reality of the Russia issue then?
What was the GDP growth rate, what was the share market performance compared to Obama, how did the manufacturing sector perform? Use facts and convince me of his results.

THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT THIS COUNTRY AT THE MOMENT....

 

[Conservative]

"goldkam, post: 1072888799, member: 32415"]
So why am I paying for the roads so you can drive on them?
So why am I paying for the infrastructure for you to use?
So why am I paying taxes to fund schools for you and your family?

If you don't drive a car you aren't paying taxes for the roads

You really have no idea what taxes you pay or their purpose do you? DO you know what state excise taxes fund?

Do you know what property taxes fund?

Quite simply the American healthcare system has failed to deliver affordable and effective care and this is been rectified through partial state intervention because the private sector could not rectify this matter. Healthcare is a right, a fundamental human right and how are people supposed to be able to access this right if they can't afford it, aren't covered by the necessary provisions or it doesn't protect them in the necessary ways.

Seems to be the liberal position that you should pay for my healthcare with your federal income taxes, why is that?

Not radical liberal....common sense.

So common sense tells you it is ok to spend in the name of compassion, not solve any social problems, and create dependence?

To be accountable for their actions and words regarding previous events. Would you expect President Obama to condemn the 9/11 terrorist attacks, even though it was prior to him coming into office in 2008?

I would consider it American to support the President of the United States when we are attacked not place blame

That is simply untrue....you really need to emerge from your conservative bubble and talk to people. I am not denying it is not a local and state issue...does that mean we shouldn't worry about it?
Typical view of..."if it doesn't affect me I don't need to care"

You change what you can change and stop trying to change someone else. Your anti Trump rhetoric has created hatred that defies logic, common sense and ignores results

Don't change the topic or distort what I said. You called me anti-American for condemning the founders for supporting slavery. So you support a literal reading of the Founders words in todays society?

You are anti American supporting Biden/Harris who believe it is the federal gov't responsibility to take care of your own personal responsibility issues



I actually do my research....I bother to understand the issues. I am proud to have my own view and my own opinion and not be bullied by this weak game of politics you play. Calling me a liberal, left and biased. That is all irrelevant...your feelings are getting in the way of your ability to state facts.

What is the reality of the Russia issue then?
What was the GDP growth rate, what was the share market performance compared to Obama, how did the manufacturing sector perform? Use facts and convince me of his results.

Very simple, OBAMA was responsible to get out of recession and he failed. He was part of the Democratic Congress that gave us the 14.2K record stock market and 146 million taxpayers, those were the target numbers when the took office. His percentage change on what he was given isn't the story, his economic failures gave us the worst recovery in American history

THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT THIS COUNTRY AT THE MOMENT....

So you claim but why do you care? People aren't dying to get into those countries

 

[Conservative]

If you don't drive a car you aren't paying taxes for the roads

You really have no idea what taxes you pay or their purpose do you? DO you know what state excise taxes fund?

Do you know what property taxes fund?



Seems to be the liberal position that you should pay for my healthcare with your federal income taxes, why is that?



So common sense tells you it is ok to spend in the name of compassion, not solve any social problems, and create dependence?



I would consider it American to support the President of the United States when we are attacked not place blame




You change what you can change and stop trying to change someone else. Your anti Trump rhetoric has created hatred that defies logic, common sense and ignores results





You are anti American supporting Biden/Harris who believe it is the federal gov't responsibility to take care of your own personal responsibility issues



I actually do my research....I bother to understand the issues. I am proud to have my own view and my own opinion and not be bullied by this weak game of politics you play. Calling me a liberal, left and biased. That is all irrelevant...your feelings are getting in the way of your ability to state facts.



Very simple, OBAMA was responsible to get out of recession and he failed. He was part of the Democratic Congress that gave us the 14.2K record stock market and 146 million taxpayers, those were the target numbers when the took office. His percentage change on what he was given isn't the story, his economic failures gave us the worst recovery in American history



So you claim but why do you care? People aren't dying to get into those countries

Amazing how poorly informed you really are

US economic growth shatters record at 33.1%, but fails to snap coronavirus recession

The U.S. economy grew at a record-shattering pace in the third quarter as businesses reopened from the coronavirus shutdown, but the nation remains in a deep hole from the COVID-induced recession.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Tigerace117]

You spend a lot of time talking about the Trump cult not much about the patriotism displayed by that cult and the reality that patriotism is what makes this country one of the greatest in the world. My father, father in law gave you the freedoms to make an ass out of yourself with your rhetoric. Why aren't you talking about the radical cult that has taken over the Democratic Party? Notice you haven't offered any data to support your claims or proof that anything Trump did has hurt you or your family? If he has run this country into the ground why is it that during a pandemic 56% of the people in Gallup say they are better off than 4 years ago? Your biased, partisan opinions aren't supported by any data thus have no credibility

Oh look, a “parade” which was little more than a celebration of Trump’s ego. The Trump cult‘s willingness to defend a man who attacks POWs and soldiers, sailors and airmen who were killed fighting for the United States shows their “patriotism“ to be a bad joke. Notice how you ask how Trump’s idiotic policies hurt me and my family and then wail and whine when I respond. It really does go to show how clueless the Trump cult is.

Because Trump cultists could care less about the country.

 

[goldkam]

Do you know what property taxes fund?

You have missed the very point I was making. The point is that taxes (ie. gas taxes, incomes taxes) are used to fund a whole range of programs, policies and regulations. Taxation is a fundamental part of a well-functioning country and I am perplexed that you are so selective in how taxpayers money can be spent.

Property taxes fund a whole range of different things....it would greatly depend upon the state and local district.

Why should I have to fund programs and policies that you will benefit from?

Seems to be the liberal position that you should pay for my healthcare with your federal income taxes, why is that?

Wrong. Australia and the UK (just to name two of many countries) both have conservative governments and prime ministers and guess what......THEY HAVE A UNIVERSAL GOVERNMENT FUNDED HEALTH SYSTEM. A policy supported by both sides of politics in those countries.

The US is the only first-world country to have a non-universal healthcare and insurance system. It's not a liberal position to want to have good healthcare. You need to consider the accuracy of your statements before putting them forth.

So common sense tells you it is ok to spend in the name of compassion

That is completely false. Calling Biden's and Obama's plan a handout is downright insulting and clearly shows this sense of entitlement.

Why does Australia, NZ, UK, France, Ireland, Scotland, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan amongst so many other countries not consider Government-funded and run healthcare to be a handout? Do you not understand that US healthcare is below par and one of the worst amongst developed nations? The private sector is proven to be ineffective in delivering affordable, efficient and reliable healthcare. THAT IS FACT.

I would consider it American to support the President of the United States when we are attacked not place blame

I would consider it suspicious when someone avoids answering a question. I don't need to be told by other people that I cannot hold a President accountable, or do you think its unreasonable to hold a President to account?

Your anti Trump rhetoric has created hatred that defies logic, common sense and ignores results

If you don't want me to debate or seek to inform your view don't participate in forums such as this. Not anti-Trump, holding the President to account. I am allowed to question his actions, his motives and his policies (or lack of). Is that unreasonable?

You are anti American supporting Biden/Harris who believe it is the federal gov't responsibility to take care of your own personal responsibility issues

You have only just said I should 'stop trying to change someone else'.....what are you trying to do here?

I am confused as to the point you are making. You are not against the principle of taxing a population and then spending that money on policies, projects and organizations.
So are you saying that the principle of personal responsibility is at the core of your view? So as soon as someone is capable of having personal responsibility, that the Government should not intervene?

Very simple, OBAMA was responsible to get out of recession and he failed.

This is baseless, absolutely and utterly baseless.
Unemployment: Under Obama, unemployment was cut from a recession-peak of 10 percent to only 4.7 percent
Job growth: By the end of the Obama administration, the economy had experienced 76 consecutive months of job growth
Average monthly job growth: During the last 33 months of the Obama administration, nonfarm job growth averaged 224,000 per month. During the first 33 months of the Trump administration, the average was 34,000 jobs per month less.
Average real GDP growth was roughly the same (2.6 percent) for the first 11 quarters under President Trump (ending Sept. 2019) and for the last 11 quarters of the Obama administration
Income: During the last two years of the Obama administration, annual median household income increased $4,800. This is three times more than the $1,400 increase during the first two years of the Trump administration.
Stock Market: Between President Trump’s Inauguration Day and November 2019, the Dow Jones Average increased more than 40 percent, while over the eight years of the Obama administration, the DJIA increased almost 150 percent – a substantially greater pace

The CATO Institute observed….
The Obama economy and the Trump economy seem to be the same economy. This observation applies to many other measures of American prosperity.

I would suggest that when you want to hurl misleading statements about other Presidents handling of issues such as the economy that you present facts. Above are the facts that disprove the false statement you made.