leejosepho
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Greetings, folks! I was searching for one of my favorite flavors of forum the other day and I found this great thread on this particular board ...
Thank you all for already being here!
After coming back and registering today, I have just finished reading this discussion so far and saving a few excerpts. Like some of you, I truly enjoy sticking to the subject at hand while investigating and sharing details from various angles. The excerpts I have copied are preceded by these: “>>”.
>> ... [the] question here is not whether god exists ...
>> ... [but] how can [one] ... insist that the christian religion is right and all others wrong.
>> ... debating whether christianity has any clue on what this [alleged supreme] being is and how he might act.
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Yes, the sectarian religion called “Christianity” does have at least a few clues about The Creator of all things – His Sovereignty, Omnipotence, Omnipresence and Omniscience – but it also misses a few ... such as even just knowing His name. Throughout Christendom, one would be hard-pressed to find accurate answers to these questions (from Proverbs 30):
“Who has gone up to the heavens and come down? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name, and what is His Son's Name, if you can tell?”
Next, most/much of Christianity completely misses or even misrepresents this:
"... whosoever shall call on YHWH [not ‘Jesus’] shall be delivered" (Joel 2:32);
"... whosoever shall call on the name of YHWH shall be saved" (Acts 2:21; Romans 10:13);
"[He is] YHWH and there is no saviour but [Him]" (Isaiah 43:11; Hosea 13:4).
There is much more, of course, but I do not want to make my very first post here too very long!
>> ... how do Christians know that God in the bible isn't Satan? Wouldn't that be the ultimate deception?
>> ... what if some [bible] books were inspired by Satan?
Yes, that kind of thing would certainly be the ultimate deception, but as best I can tell, the “evil one” or “Satan” has actually “inspired” only some subtle changes for the sake of obfuscation, confusion and deception, and without being allowed (as also restricted concerning Job) to actually destroy (either Job or the overall content or “message” of Scripture).
>> Moses did cross the red sea ... there are still chariot marks on the bottom of its depths.
>> ... I'd have to see proof of that.
>> ... enclosed in an airtight dome to prevent sediment ...
I do not recall ever hearing about any “chariot marks” still being observable, but there actually is plenty of physical and historical evidence to make the entire Exodus story quite believable ... including even the finding of the unique-sized and sedimentized wheels of the deceased Pharaoh’s personal chariot. I do not ever solicit or advertise for myself or for anyone else, but I will respond to any private message or e-mail from anyone asking for a link to a site where some impressive video footage can be purchased ... and if necessary, I will even pay for a copy and have it sent to anyone who absolutely cannot afford one on his or her own (and who is willing to possibly wait for a while if I get more than one or two such requests).
Having already filled a page, I would nevertheless like to add one more comment for now:
>> ... you are able to back the involvement of demons in helping people manage their recovery from drugs with evidence, I assume?
Maybe not in any way that would fully convince anyone else, but yes, just as surely as I have both seen and experienced convincing evidence of the very character of YHWH, Himself.
Thank you all for already being here!
After coming back and registering today, I have just finished reading this discussion so far and saving a few excerpts. Like some of you, I truly enjoy sticking to the subject at hand while investigating and sharing details from various angles. The excerpts I have copied are preceded by these: “>>”.
>> ... [the] question here is not whether god exists ...
>> ... [but] how can [one] ... insist that the christian religion is right and all others wrong.
>> ... debating whether christianity has any clue on what this [alleged supreme] being is and how he might act.
---
Yes, the sectarian religion called “Christianity” does have at least a few clues about The Creator of all things – His Sovereignty, Omnipotence, Omnipresence and Omniscience – but it also misses a few ... such as even just knowing His name. Throughout Christendom, one would be hard-pressed to find accurate answers to these questions (from Proverbs 30):
“Who has gone up to the heavens and come down? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name, and what is His Son's Name, if you can tell?”
Next, most/much of Christianity completely misses or even misrepresents this:
"... whosoever shall call on YHWH [not ‘Jesus’] shall be delivered" (Joel 2:32);
"... whosoever shall call on the name of YHWH shall be saved" (Acts 2:21; Romans 10:13);
"[He is] YHWH and there is no saviour but [Him]" (Isaiah 43:11; Hosea 13:4).
There is much more, of course, but I do not want to make my very first post here too very long!
>> ... how do Christians know that God in the bible isn't Satan? Wouldn't that be the ultimate deception?
>> ... what if some [bible] books were inspired by Satan?
Yes, that kind of thing would certainly be the ultimate deception, but as best I can tell, the “evil one” or “Satan” has actually “inspired” only some subtle changes for the sake of obfuscation, confusion and deception, and without being allowed (as also restricted concerning Job) to actually destroy (either Job or the overall content or “message” of Scripture).
>> Moses did cross the red sea ... there are still chariot marks on the bottom of its depths.
>> ... I'd have to see proof of that.
>> ... enclosed in an airtight dome to prevent sediment ...
I do not recall ever hearing about any “chariot marks” still being observable, but there actually is plenty of physical and historical evidence to make the entire Exodus story quite believable ... including even the finding of the unique-sized and sedimentized wheels of the deceased Pharaoh’s personal chariot. I do not ever solicit or advertise for myself or for anyone else, but I will respond to any private message or e-mail from anyone asking for a link to a site where some impressive video footage can be purchased ... and if necessary, I will even pay for a copy and have it sent to anyone who absolutely cannot afford one on his or her own (and who is willing to possibly wait for a while if I get more than one or two such requests).
Having already filled a page, I would nevertheless like to add one more comment for now:
>> ... you are able to back the involvement of demons in helping people manage their recovery from drugs with evidence, I assume?
Maybe not in any way that would fully convince anyone else, but yes, just as surely as I have both seen and experienced convincing evidence of the very character of YHWH, Himself.