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Why Hunter’s Laptop Matters

NatMorton said:
There's an important difference between questioning information because of the source vs outright dismissing that information because of the source. The former is prudent. The latter is foolish.
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You know that in the end what the public thinks does not matter and both Bidens are innocent until proven guilty of whatever crime you think they may have committed. We are constantly reminded of that regularly with Trump but somehow it is not the same for Biden. Let's just wait and see what the FBI and the DOJ does ok?
 
Buckeyes85 said:
That's generally true. Be sure to break that out for the 3 or 4 conservative posters on this board whose only argument tends to be attacking the source.

That said, when the topic/issue is someone's interpretation of events or facts, attacking the source is absolutely appropriate. No one would argue that the credibility of a witness at trial is critically important. The issue here is largely the same.
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Maybe it's just me, but the source blaming seems to be used far more frequently by the left. Only occasionally by the right.

Then if it's the interpretation of the facts, meantion that. Go directly to source blaming makes one look as they have nothing to debate about and looks foolish.
 
iguanaman said:
You know that in the end what the public thinks does not matter and both Bidens are innocent until proven guilty of whatever crime you think they may have committed. We are constantly reminded of that regularly with Trump but somehow it is not the same for Biden. Let's just wait and see what the FBI and the DOJ does ok?
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It's much diffrent when the average citizen posts news or their opinion online vs what Muller says about Trump.

One is where criminality is in play and due process is foremost. The other is the public debating and speculating on the various implications. Bring up innocence before guilt isn't what debating is always about when discussing issues and hypotheticals.
 
iguanaman said:
You know that in the end what the public thinks does not matter and both Bidens are innocent until proven guilty of whatever crime you think they may have committed. We are constantly reminded of that regularly with Trump but somehow it is not the same for Biden. Let's just wait and see what the FBI and the DOJ does ok?
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I supported both impeachment probes against Trump. You are the partisan here, not me.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
It's much diffrent when the average citizen posts news or their opinion online vs what Muller says about Trump.

One is where criminality is in play and due process is foremost. The other is the public debating and speculating on the various implications. Bring up innocence before guilt isn't what debating is always about when discussing issues and hypotheticals.
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Yes that is for sure. Look what you guys did to Hillary and she was never even charged with any crime. It is good to know that you think of the "laptop" story as fantasy (like Benghazi) without any real proof though. Even the tiniest bit of honesty is welcome from the Right
 
iguanaman said:
Yes that is for sure. Look what you guys did to Hillary and she was never even charged with any crime. It is good to know that you think of the "laptop" story as fantasy (like Benghazi) without any real proof though. Even the tiniest bit of honesty is welcome from the Right
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With the Hunter laptop we know for sure it exists. Which some news sources said was likely Russian misinformation, based on nothing but speculation. What's on it for now we don't know, but could change.

Hillary was diffrent from Tump as Comey acknowledged the exsistance of confidential email on her laptop. Which was enough to charge her. But they didn't.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Maybe it's just me, but the source blaming seems to be used far more frequently by the left. Only occasionally by the right.
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To be quite honest it is because there are so many far-right media "sources" who publish all sorts of unverified speculation and misinformation that are oft times quoted here. They are extremely unreliable and often so out there you can't even argue it. Both the left and right discount sources. CNN, NYTimes, MSNBC, and of course the generic "mainstream media "(whatever that is) are immediately discounted by many on the right as "fake news". No lily whites around here...............
 
If you clicked on any one of the Hunter Biden Laptop threads at random, you would have no idea at which point in time between October 2020 and now you were in. Every single one of these threads hits on all the same points, and that’s because every single thread is a regurgitation of the previous one. And that’s because every article these threads are based on is a recycling of the topic in order to make it seem like the story is progressing, when in fact it’s not.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Maybe it's just me, but the source blaming seems to be used far more frequently by the left. Only occasionally by the right.
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I have 2 responses to that: first, there are several conservative posters here who always dive right into the blame the source argument.

2nd, and I doubt you will agree with this, but it seems conservatives here, and particularly those still in love with Trump tend to cite to way more batshit crazy unreliable sources to support their posts. If true, that is going to prompt more responses where the source is attacked.

All that said, I am still in agreement with you that diving right to the "blame the source" argument without even an effort to articulate what in the material is wrong, is generally a weak approach.
 
EdwinWillers said:
It's only a matter of time now - and that very likely just after the mid-term elections. The media has been informed by tptb that Joe is no longer needed and so they're now - quite dutifully - all marching to the same orders to finally start reporting on, and getting to the bottom of his corruption.
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You got him now! Just a matter of time.
 
NatMorton said:
Never hard to spot those who are secretly worried about this. They always go after the messenger.
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Said the guy going after someone politically who isn't even in politics.
 
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Linuxcooldude said:
Maybe it's just me, but the source blaming seems to be used far more frequently by the left. Only occasionally by the right.

Then if it's the interpretation of the facts, meantion that. Go directly to source blaming makes one look as they have nothing to debate about and looks foolish.
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Probably because the right has forsaken news and more often just posts from random discredit links.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
With the Hunter laptop we know for sure it exists. Which some news sources said was likely Russian misinformation, based on nothing but speculation. What's on it for now we don't know, but could change.

Hillary was diffrent from Tump as Comey acknowledged the exsistance of confidential email on her laptop. Which was enough to charge her. But they didn't.
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Trump stole confidential documents and took them to Mar a Lago. Should he be charged? You can't have it both ways.

Donald Trump took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago, National Archives says​

https://nypost.com/2022/02/18/donal...cuments-to-mar-a-lago-national-archives-says/
 
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