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Why Football Should Be Banned

Goshin said:
The football coaches have been after my son since 1st grade... because he's always been a big strong kid. I've seen many a big beefy grown man almost cry when my son told them he only likes baseball. :)

Fine by me too... I played football some in school, and frankly I wasn't overly enthused about my son playing it. Not only were the long-term FB players some of the biggest egomaniacal douchebags in school, I also saw a lot them reach the age of 18 with permanent damage of some kind... torn up knees that would come back to haunt them later in life, a particular problem among running backs.

So it didn't exactly break my heart that Son Numbah One preferred baseball.


Now I'm not with the OP (of course not), I don't want FB banned... but it might ought to come with a warning label, something like "Participating in Football may cause you child to suffer long term or permanent injuries and/or develop excessive ego, douchebaggery and self-entitlement, in extreme cases leading to a belief that he can commit assault or even rape and get away with it since he is A Football Hero."

So no, not exactly my favorite sport. Not really so great at building general athletic ability as track and field or gymnastics, nor as good at developing teamwork and character as baseball, nor as good at either as martial arts or combative sports (while being just as dangerous if not more so).


So I'm not a big fan... but as usual the OP is somewhere way out in orbit around Uranus or something...
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My stepson is the same way. 6'4 or 5.....290lbs. They always wanted him for Football, while he was growing up. He wanted to play too. He wanted to play Defense. But they stuck him on offense. But he went with it thinking he would show them and switch over. Played up to a half a season of JV and then ended up with Schlatters Knee or something like that. Football.....done and over with. Just like that.

He has been studying to be a Chef.....but now just wants to open his own restaurant, and do the cooking without going to a Chefs School.
 
Goshin said:
The football coaches have been after my son since 1st grade... because he's always been a big strong kid. I've seen many a big beefy grown man almost cry when my son told them he only likes baseball. :)

Fine by me too... I played football some in school, and frankly I wasn't overly enthused about my son playing it. Not only were the long-term FB players some of the biggest egomaniacal douchebags in school, I also saw a lot them reach the age of 18 with permanent damage of some kind... torn up knees that would come back to haunt them later in life, a particular problem among running backs.

So it didn't exactly break my heart that Son Numbah One preferred baseball.


Now I'm not with the OP (of course not), I don't want FB banned... but it might ought to come with a warning label, something like "Participating in Football may cause you child to suffer long term or permanent injuries and/or develop excessive ego, douchebaggery and self-entitlement, in extreme cases leading to a belief that he can commit assault or even rape and get away with it since he is A Football Hero."

So no, not exactly my favorite sport. Not really so great at building general athletic ability as track and field or gymnastics, nor as good at developing teamwork and character as baseball, nor as good at either as martial arts or combative sports (while being just as dangerous if not more so).


So I'm not a big fan... but as usual the OP is somewhere way out in orbit around Uranus or something...
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As someone who loves american football and has played rugby I really think the nfl could learn a lot from rugby, mainly how to tackle safely without helmets
 
Higgins86 said:
As someone who loves american football and has played rugby I really think the nfl could learn a lot from rugby, mainly how to tackle safely without helmets
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Yeah, there was some guy making the argument that the heavy-duty headgear caused a false sense of security, resulting in unnecessary neck and head injuries due to carelessness about which way they hit.

As a kid we would sometimes play tackle football (backyard version) with ZERO safety gear... not smart I know... but then we weren't trying to cripple each other and everyone knew you had to be careful which way you hit and how you landed. Nobody got seriously damaged.

I don't think you could do that in the NFL though; too much money at stake.
 
Goshin said:
Yeah, there was some guy making the argument that the heavy-duty headgear caused a false sense of security, resulting in unnecessary neck and head injuries due to carelessness about which way they hit.

As a kid we would sometimes play tackle football (backyard version) with ZERO safety gear... not smart I know... but then we weren't trying to cripple each other and everyone knew you had to be careful which way you hit and how you landed. Nobody got seriously damaged.

I don't think you could do that in the NFL though; too much money at stake.
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you could still leave the helmets on and teach them how to actually tackle. Hate watching professional athletes using their head to tackle when they have hands, arms and shoulders. Wrap them up around the lower waist and they stop running.
 
Higgins86 said:
As someone who loves american football and has played rugby I really think the nfl could learn a lot from rugby, mainly how to tackle safely without helmets
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There are actually a fair bit of former players and commentators who suggest that if you want to take head hits out of the game, go back to leather helmets. The notion is that the helmets were added initially to "protect" people better from incidental head to body or head to ground contact. However, as they've now became standard and the only thing known for modern players, it's came to a point where they now feel like they are somewhat invulnerable in the head region and that every part of the body is a target and a potential weapon.

You take the facemask and helmet away and people won't be leading with their heads, they won't be ducking their heads into defenders, etc. Suddenly you become much more aware of what's going on with that regoin when it's not wrapped in a big bubble.

That said, it's not likely going to ever happen. In part because it'd take a generation or so for players to fully transition out of what was the "norm" in recent years back to the old school styles.
 
Higgins86 said:
As someone who loves american football and has played rugby I really think the nfl could learn a lot from rugby, mainly how to tackle safely without helmets
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Well certainly not professionally, but I have played both. I agree. It is part of the take no prisoners/win at all cost/make a big play and make some big money mentality. Football players have a thug mentality these days. They could also learn a few things from professional wrestling--just fake it.
 
I think it definitely should be banned for minors. As with driving, there's too much peer pressure, and every time I read about some HS running back turned into a drooling catatonic, I wonder how in the world it can be worth it. We talk of protecting kids and so on, then allow this kind of barbarity, all for (mostly very boring) entertainment, a slim chance at a college/pro career, and the 'glory days' of competing in front of a few hundred people. Practicing in 100 degree temps and pads is pathetic and frankly child abuse and every summer some kid dies during practice.

The other aspect to this is the coaches who moonlight as teachers and generally do a god awful job. My 6th grade teacher was the football coach, and he'd just drive off to see his players and watch whole game footage right in class.
 
chromium said:
The other aspect to this is the coaches who moonlight as teachers and generally do a god awful job. My 6th grade teacher was the football coach, and he'd just drive off to see his players and watch whole game footage right in class.
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I can attest to this. The high school that I went to as a freshman, which I thankfully moved away from during that year, the art teacher was the varsity football coach, and they had a "football class". Not an after school club, but a regular class during school hours that the football players got credit for. It was the dumbest, most ridiculous **** I've ever seen. And the football team wasn't even good!
 
Graffias said:
No, not European football. American football.

A reason so many Americans argue over such stupid, partisan politics is because they are brain dead, at the very least brain damaged, from football. And this claim is substantiated by a new study correlating five years of intensive research which has come to the conclusion that football, at least at the college level, causes CTE, a type of neurological disorder.

Young boys starting their football "careers" get thousands of small hits, tackles, slams, bumps and head bangs -- all of which can and do add up to serious medical conditions by the time they are playing college football. At least this is what physicians, such as Dr. Robert Stern, at places like Boston University medical group, have concluded after intensively studying the brain tissue of many players and the effect football impacts have over the long-term.

So it's high-time this senseless and stupid blood sport -- enjoyed mostly by the intellectually-challenged -- be acknowledged for what it is.
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Listen Hammerskin, You dont or cant play ball? Dont then, but dont tell anyone else what to do.
 
MMC said:
My stepson is the same way. 6'4 or 5.....290lbs. They always wanted him for Football, while he was growing up. He wanted to play too. He wanted to play Defense. But they stuck him on offense. But he went with it thinking he would show them and switch over. Played up to a half a season of JV and then ended up with Schlatters Knee or something like that. Football.....done and over with. Just like that.

He has been studying to be a Chef.....but now just wants to open his own restaurant, and do the cooking without going to a Chefs School.
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Ever heard of Mack Knee?
Drive a manual transmission Mack truck enough years, you will have a bad knee.
Life is tough, not tough? Dont do what tough takes to do.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Ever heard of Mack Knee?
Drive a manual transmission Mack truck enough years, you will have a bad knee.
Life is tough, not tough? Dont do what tough takes to do.
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Yeah.....he has that and the heart. They just said he wouldn't be able to medically, on the football.
 
The Man said:
I can attest to this. The high school that I went to as a freshman, which I thankfully moved away from during that year, the art teacher was the varsity football coach, and they had a "football class". Not an after school club, but a regular class during school hours that the football players got credit for. It was the dumbest, most ridiculous **** I've ever seen. And the football team wasn't even good!
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The district actually moved the 6th grade to the HS building the following year, to accommodate this 'teacher'/coach. What you're describing, credits for football, takes place at a lot of colleges too. Bobby Bowdin was a 'professor' of a football class that gave out basically all As. This is why i can't take football, or basically sport anymore, seriously. There's cheating at every turn.
 
Graffias said:
No, not European football. American football.

A reason so many Americans argue over such stupid, partisan politics is because they are brain dead, at the very least brain damaged, from football. And this claim is substantiated by a new study correlating five years of intensive research which has come to the conclusion that football, at least at the college level, causes CTE, a type of neurological disorder.

Young boys starting their football "careers" get thousands of small hits, tackles, slams, bumps and head bangs -- all of which can and do add up to serious medical conditions by the time they are playing college football. At least this is what physicians, such as Dr. Robert Stern, at places like Boston University medical group, have concluded after intensively studying the brain tissue of many players and the effect football impacts have over the long-term.

So it's high-time this senseless and stupid blood sport -- enjoyed mostly by the intellectually-challenged -- be acknowledged for what it is.
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So, the pros, then, are just drooling idiots in a nursing home by the age of 35?
 
but mixed martial arts (MMA) ring fighting is ok?

Go football.;)
 
My Mother's assisted living home is full oif WOMEN, with very few men. The "sport" to look at in about 10 years will be MMA/UFC. Their brains will be mush, like M. Ali now.
CRUE CAB said:
Yea, nursing homes full of jocks. LOL. People want the dumbest things banned.
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I don't mind watching a bit of egg-chasing from time to time, whether it's rugby, gridiron or aussie rules. I do think that gridiron needs to get to grips with the head and neck injury issue as with time people are going to start opting to play different sports with less possibility of major neurological disability. There was a time when there were fewer options and everyone was expected to play the same sports at school. Now I don't believe that's true and, of your indigenous sports, gridiron looks to be the vulnerable one at a grass-roots level.
 
If George Will can love baseball, I can periodically enjoy watching football.
 
Graffias said:
No, not European football. American football.

A reason so many Americans argue over such stupid, partisan politics is because they are brain dead, at the very least brain damaged, from football. And this claim is substantiated by a new study correlating five years of intensive research which has come to the conclusion that football, at least at the college level, causes CTE, a type of neurological disorder.

Young boys starting their football "careers" get thousands of small hits, tackles, slams, bumps and head bangs -- all of which can and do add up to serious medical conditions by the time they are playing college football. At least this is what physicians, such as Dr. Robert Stern, at places like Boston University medical group, have concluded after intensively studying the brain tissue of many players and the effect football impacts have over the long-term.

So it's high-time this senseless and stupid blood sport -- enjoyed mostly by the intellectually-challenged -- be acknowledged for what it is.
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I totally agree as long as sex and beer are also removed from this once great nation!!
 
To the OP...Do you realize how small the percentage of people in this country are represented by the number of people playing college football? And how do you reconcile the fact that there are an equal share of partisan women that have never played the game? Goofy premise is goofy.

The problem with head tackles can be attributed to one thing...ESPN. We've gotten away from playing fundamentally sound football to trying to make the highlight reel.
 
Graffias said:
No, not European football. American football.

A reason so many Americans argue over such stupid, partisan politics is because they are brain dead, at the very least brain damaged, from football. And this claim is substantiated by a new study correlating five years of intensive research which has come to the conclusion that football, at least at the college level, causes CTE, a type of neurological disorder.

Young boys starting their football "careers" get thousands of small hits, tackles, slams, bumps and head bangs -- all of which can and do add up to serious medical conditions by the time they are playing college football. At least this is what physicians, such as Dr. Robert Stern, at places like Boston University medical group, have concluded after intensively studying the brain tissue of many players and the effect football impacts have over the long-term.

So it's high-time this senseless and stupid blood sport -- enjoyed mostly by the intellectually-challenged -- be acknowledged for what it is.
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Soccer causes more serious injuries in HS than football. something like a third of girls who play select or HS varsity soccer end up with an ACL injury.
 
APACHERAT said:
What your real argument is, in sports there is a winner and loser and like most liberals/progressives and socialist, they believe that no body should lose not even during a silly game of football or baseball.
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an extremely astute point

a guy I got to know on another board-who came here from Down Under for medical treatment and stayed here until he died (after seeing his kids earn PhDs and MDs) noted as follows

A nation that tells all its kids they are winners produces a country full of losers
 
And USA high school fans are acting like the rest of the world now, getting in object and insult throwing contests. What a whiny bunch of asswipes who want the same respect as football. Parents/fans instigate chippy garbage on the field and constantly bitch at the refs.
TurtleDude said:
Soccer causes more serious injuries in HS than football. something like a third of girls who play select or HS varsity soccer end up with an ACL injury.
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