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Only with children...
Many adults never grow up- they still keep playing all sorts of fun imaginary games- like making each other “blessed” or “it”.
Only with children...
Many adults never grow up- they still keep playing all sorts of fun imaginary games- like making each other “blessed” or “it”.
A huge problem with all this (one atheists seem to shy away from discussing) is that if there truly is no God, then "religion" and belief in "God" and all of the many trappings of "religious people", organizations etc, are all purely natural things.
By definition (for the atheist) unnatural things cannot exist so objecting to religions and God and so on is no different to objecting to homosexuality or transgenderism or any other aspect of reality; if people believing in things that are not true has arisen naturally though evolution and anthropology then what are they all actually objecting to if not nature itself?
Not really. There is a whole category of social constructs. These include things like systems of law and justice, governments, systems of currency, languages and all their laws of grammar and vocabulary, social norms and customs, manners and fashions of dress, etc... these things don’t exist in nature. There is nothing natural about them. They have no existence or meaning outside of human societies. I suspect religion is one of those things, rather than something existing out in nature.
unnatural things cannot exist
*sigh*
Unnatural, or perhaps do you mean supernatural?
A motorcycle is unnatural.
Not sure what I've been riding all these years if it cannot exist.
Well I can't agree with this reasoning, people exist because of the forces of nature (for the atheist anyway) these are cold, dry, laws of nature, physics, chemistry, biochemistry - I don't see how all these forces can lead to something that you can call "not natural" I just don't.
Most people would not consider the current value of the US dollar or the laws of English grammar "natural". I guess if you think of it as the above, they ultimately kind of are, indirectly- if you want to think of them that way. But most people consider them "man-made" systems- much like other tools we make like screwdrivers, cars, chainsaws, and snowblowers. They are things we have created because we have thought they help us. But if we stop making them, they don't exist in nature. There is nothing natural about them.
A huge problem with all this (one atheists seem to shy away from discussing) is that if there truly is no God, then "religion" and belief in "God" and all of the many trappings of "religious people", organizations etc, are all purely natural things.
By definition (for the atheist) unnatural things cannot exist so objecting to religions and God and so on is no different to objecting to homosexuality or transgenderism or any other aspect of reality; if people believing in things that are not true has arisen naturally though evolution and anthropology then what are they all actually objecting to if not nature itself?
But they do exist in nature if we and what we do are part of nature.
But they do exist in nature if we and what we do are part of nature.
Like I said earlier, atheists really do seem to struggle with this.
I want some form of religious ruling in my country on government level
A motorcycle is not unnatural, no tool is unnatural, no product of nature can be unnatural:
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You really need to think things through some more before posting here.
A motorcycle is not unnatural, no tool is unnatural, no product of nature can be unnatural:
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You really need to think things through some more before posting here.
But they do exist in nature if we and what we do are part of nature.
Like I said earlier, atheists really do seem to struggle with this.
atheists really do seem to struggle with this
Bestiality exists...does that make it natural?
You misunderstand me Elvira, I'm playing devil's advocate here, showing the atheists where there logic unavoidably leads.
I don't know what definition you have of unnatural, but it's clearly not what most people use.
You misunderstand me Elvira, I'm playing devil's advocate here, showing the atheists where there logic unavoidably leads.
Something arising from nature, people evolved naturally (if one is an atheist anyway) did they not? so how can a product of nature not behave naturally? How can the natural produce the unnatural? where do unnatural things come from? isn't evolution a natural process?
I'm playing devil's advocate here, showing the atheists where there logic unavoidably leads.
Something arising from nature, people evolved naturally (if one is an atheist anyway) did they not? so how can a product of nature not behave naturally? How can the natural produce the unnatural? where do unnatural things come from? isn't evolution a natural process?