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Why Don't The Same People Who Make The Laws Enforce Them?

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As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?
 
As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?
Ummm...

You should probably read the Constitution. You'll find the answer to your question there.


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He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.​
 
As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?
They do not abide by the laws they make.
 
From both sides of the coin, depends on who is there. You know that "Equal justice under the law" thing?
With all due respect, forget it. This is Moneyville.
 
As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?
Why would you prefer that the Legislative Branch enforce the laws?
Or, put another way, what is your objection to the Executive Branch enforcing the law?
 
As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?

So I have this right, you ask is in the Government & Separation of Powers section of the forums for us to ignore the Constitution and blend those powers?
 
As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?
Bring on the street judges!!

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By design.

Legislative makes laws.
Executive enforces laws.
Judicial reviews laws/legal actions

Separating powers to prevent any one from being all powerful
 
So what OP, are our congress people supposed to patrol the streets and prosecute crime in their spare time?
 
Why would you prefer that the Legislative Branch enforce the laws?
Or, put another way, what is your objection to the Executive Branch enforcing the law?
Why can't the Legislative Branch and Executive Branch merge?
 
As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?

So basically autocracy.
 
Why can't the Legislative Branch and Executive Branch merge?
They could, the question is why would they. If you're proposing a change (especially such a significant change), you need to at least try to give some justification for making it.
 
As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?
Seperation of powers was the concept. Though with an EO that power does not rest with legislative solely. The EO concept came much later after the Constition was written and adopted.
 
As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?
The Constitution is a document that reaches for limiting the central governments powers. Putting 2 of the 3 basic governmental powers in the same branch would inevitably lead to a more powerful central govt.
 
The Constitution is a document that reaches for limiting the central governments powers. Putting 2 of the 3 basic governmental powers in the same branch would inevitably lead to a more powerful central govt.
Well we've already got a more powerful central govt. what with the legislative branch that runs the show.
 
Assumes facts not in evidence.
The executive branch has the job of enforcing the laws the legislative branch makes so therefore the legislative branch tells the executive branch what to do.
 
The executive branch has the job of enforcing the laws the legislative branch makes so therefore the legislative branch tells the executive branch what to do.
Nope. The executive determines how to enforce the law.
 
As it is in the USA the legislative branch makes the laws and the executive branch enforces the laws. Well why don't we have the same branch that both makes the laws and enforces them?
We do. The policy, budget, and (almost all of the) personnel of the so-called executive branch are determined by Congress. Moreover, most of the laws in America are written by regulation writers in the "executive branch".
 
Nope. The executive determines how to enforce the law.
If that were the case that would mean a police officer could be allowed to shoot somebody dead for littering.
 
So what OP, are our congress people supposed to patrol the streets and prosecute crime in their spare time?
I would love to see Nancy Pelosi or Kamala Harris trying to arrest a violent non-cooperative gang member. That would be so entertaining
 
If that were the case that would mean a police officer could be allowed to shoot somebody dead for littering.
No it wouldn't. First, the LEO is an employee of the executive, not the executive. Second, not even LEO's get away with murder every time.
 
So, am I understanding this?
You want the police to also write the laws?
That sounds like a really, really bad idea as what's stopping them from just legalising police brutality or them being able to arrest whoever they like at will?
 
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